MMC 32- 64-bit choice every time I start it...?


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Jason

Whenever I open computer management, Windows pops up a window asking if I
want the 32- or 64-bit version of the MMC snap-ins. The two lists are
identical. I choose 64 because the Win 7 installation is that, but does
it matter? Furthermore, can I lock down my preference so I don't have to
answer the question every single time?

TIA,

Jason
 
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Rob

Whenever I open computer management, Windows pops up a window asking if I
want the 32- or 64-bit version of the MMC snap-ins. The two lists are
identical. I choose 64 because the Win 7 installation is that, but does
it matter? Furthermore, can I lock down my preference so I don't have to
answer the question every single time?

TIA,

Jason
Why do you have 2 versions installed?? is it a 32 bit programme or
x64?? Can you uninstall one??

you can take the question out if you edit the startup file.
 
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Jason

Why do you have 2 versions installed?? is it a 32 bit programme or
x64?? Can you uninstall one??

you can take the question out if you edit the startup file.
I didn't install it. It's part of the Win 7 installation that came with
the computer. It doesn't show in msconfig startup items. This is the
Management Console that opens when you right-click My Computer and then
click Manage.
 
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Dave-UK

Jason said:
Whenever I open computer management, Windows pops up a window asking if I
want the 32- or 64-bit version of the MMC snap-ins. The two lists are
identical. I choose 64 because the Win 7 installation is that, but does
it matter? Furthermore, can I lock down my preference so I don't have to
answer the question every single time?

TIA,

Jason
I Googled your problem and arrived here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa815172(v=vs.85).aspx

It seems that number 5 describes your situation.
As to what it all means I haven't got a clue, hopefully somebody who has
will be able to help.
 
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Jason

And where would this command line be ?
Dave and I have the same question ... where's the command line? I suspect
a registry tweak will fix this, but I've yet to find it.
 
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Dave-UK

Jason said:
Dave and I have the same question ... where's the command line? I suspect
a registry tweak will fix this, but I've yet to find it.
Sometimes software will add additional context menu entries, e.g. CCleaner can add
'Run CCleaner' to the context menu of the Recycle Bin.
Has anything been added to the Computer\Manage context menu?
When I right-click Computer and select Manage this registry key is read:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}\shell\Manage\command
and the command line is :
%SystemRoot%\system32\CompMgmtLauncher.exe

The command is also here:
HKCR\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}\shell\Manage\command
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Classes\CLSID\{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}\shell\Manage\command

Is yours different ?


..
 
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Jason

Has anything been added to the Computer\Manage context menu?
There are a few additions, CCleaner for example!

When I right-click Computer and select Manage this registry key is read:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}\shell\Manage\command
and the command line is :
%SystemRoot%\system32\CompMgmtLauncher.exe

The command is also here:
HKCR\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}\shell\Manage\command
Entries in my registry are the same.
 
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Dave-UK

Jason said:
There are a few additions, CCleaner for example!



Entries in my registry are the same.
I've been reading up a bit more about snap-ins.
The Computer right-click 'Manage' option eventually runs compmgmt.msc via mmc.exe
These *.msc files are actually xml text files and compmgmt.msc is a collection of
smaller snap-ins, like eventvwr.msc, taskschd.msc etc.

You can have a look inside an msc file by opening it with Notepad.
(Be careful not to set Notepad as the default program).
The snap-ins will be listed by their CLSID which you can check by
searching the registry.

You can create your own console by running mmc.exe and going to
File > Add/Remove Snap-In...
On the left you'll see all of the available snap-ins.

As you are getting a popup box asking which version to run I think
one of the snap-ins that are included in compmgmt.msc is missing/corrupt
or the compmgmt.msc file is itself corrupt somehow.
So I think maybe running the System File Checker would be worth trying.
From an admin command prompt: sfc /scannow
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]>, Dave-UK
You can have a look inside an msc file by opening it with Notepad.
(Be careful not to set Notepad as the default program).
[]
I'm really disappointed to see (if I interpret what you're saying) that
they've still left the "always use this program for this type of file"
box ticked by default even in Windows 7. Sure, it's a handy box to have,
but IMO it _shouldn't be ticked by default_!

Someone did give me - can't remember if it was for '9x or XP, I think
the former - a way of making it unticked by default; IIRR it was a
registry hack. Maybe someone can find something similar for 7 (and XP).
 
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Dave-UK

J. P. Gilliver (John) said:
In message <[email protected]>, Dave-UK
You can have a look inside an msc file by opening it with Notepad.
(Be careful not to set Notepad as the default program).
[]
I'm really disappointed to see (if I interpret what you're saying) that
they've still left the "always use this program for this type of file"
box ticked by default even in Windows 7. Sure, it's a handy box to have,
but IMO it _shouldn't be ticked by default_!
And I'm really disappointed to see you change the subject line for no useful reason.
 
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Jason

I've been reading up a bit more about snap-ins.
The Computer right-click 'Manage' option eventually runs compmgmt.msc via mmc.exe
These *.msc files are actually xml text files and compmgmt.msc is a collection of
smaller snap-ins, like eventvwr.msc, taskschd.msc etc.

You can have a look inside an msc file by opening it with Notepad.
(Be careful not to set Notepad as the default program).
The snap-ins will be listed by their CLSID which you can check by
searching the registry.

You can create your own console by running mmc.exe and going to
File > Add/Remove Snap-In...
On the left you'll see all of the available snap-ins.

As you are getting a popup box asking which version to run I think
one of the snap-ins that are included in compmgmt.msc is missing/corrupt
or the compmgmt.msc file is itself corrupt somehow.
So I think maybe running the System File Checker would be worth trying.
From an admin command prompt: sfc /scannow
As I suspected, sfc found nothing.

But, per your post, I made a Console that includes just the bits and
pieces I use frequent. It opens right up and doesn't ask any questions. I
have no idea if it's using the 32- or 64-bit versions, but this works
around the annoyance nicely. It also loads more quickly than the right-
click MMC because there are fewer snap-ins to load.

Thanks!
 
W

Wolf K

In message <[email protected]>, Dave-UK
You can have a look inside an msc file by opening it with Notepad.
(Be careful not to set Notepad as the default program).
[]
I'm really disappointed to see (if I interpret what you're saying) that
they've still left the "always use this program for this type of file"
box ticked by default even in Windows 7. Sure, it's a handy box to have,
but IMO it _shouldn't be ticked by default_!

Someone did give me - can't remember if it was for '9x or XP, I think
the former - a way of making it unticked by default; IIRR it was a
registry hack. Maybe someone can find something similar for 7 (and XP).
If you use Editpad or Metapad instead, it will be the default. Both are
free, and much more capable than Notepad.

What I want is way of totally eliminating WordPad (and other MS progs
bundled with the OS.)

TIA,
Wolf K.
 
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Dave-UK

Jason said:
As I suspected, sfc found nothing.

But, per your post, I made a Console that includes just the bits and
pieces I use frequent. It opens right up and doesn't ask any questions. I
have no idea if it's using the 32- or 64-bit versions, but this works
around the annoyance nicely. It also loads more quickly than the right-
click MMC because there are fewer snap-ins to load.

Thanks!
Now I know how to create a console I'm going to replace the
Computer Management one with a customized one as well.
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

Dave-UK said:
J. P. Gilliver (John) said:
In message <[email protected]>,
Dave-UK said:
You can have a look inside an msc file by opening it with Notepad.
(Be careful not to set Notepad as the default program).
[]
I'm really disappointed to see (if I interpret what you're saying)
that they've still left the "always use this program for this type of
file" box ticked by default even in Windows 7. Sure, it's a handy box
to have, but IMO it _shouldn't be ticked by default_!
And I'm really disappointed to see you change the subject line for no
useful reason.
What _are_ you on about? The subject line was "MMC 32- 64-bit choice
every time I start it...?)" (which I see you've changed it back to);
what I was posting about - the fact that the "open with" dialog has the
"always use" box ticked by default - had nothing to do with that
subject, so I changed it, thinking that if someone did come up with a
solution, it would be more useful - e. g. to anyone looking for it -
than leaving it under something about 32-64 bits.--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)[email protected]+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Personally, I don't like the Senate idea, I don't like the idea of having to
elect another bunch of overpaid incompetents. I don't like the idea of having
wholesale appointments by the PM of the day for domination of the second
chamber. I like anachronism. I like the idea of a bunch of unelected congenital
idiots getting in the way of a bunch of conmen. - Charles F. Hankel, 1998-3-19.
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

Wolf K said:
In message <[email protected]>, Dave-UK
You can have a look inside an msc file by opening it with Notepad.
(Be careful not to set Notepad as the default program).
[]
I'm really disappointed to see (if I interpret what you're saying) that
they've still left the "always use this program for this type of file"
box ticked by default even in Windows 7. Sure, it's a handy box to have,
but IMO it _shouldn't be ticked by default_!

Someone did give me - can't remember if it was for '9x or XP, I think
the former - a way of making it unticked by default; IIRR it was a
registry hack. Maybe someone can find something similar for 7 (and XP).
If you use Editpad or Metapad instead, it will be the default. Both are
free, and much more capable than Notepad.

What I want is way of totally eliminating WordPad (and other MS progs
bundled with the OS.)

TIA,
Wolf K.
Ah, I presume you're saying that if you install those, they take over
certain kinds of file. I was saying I wasn't impressed that the "open
with" dialog box - which you use to either open a filetype that has no
current association, or to open a file with something other than what's
currently associated with it - still, in W7, has the "always use this
.... to open this type of file" ticked by default. (That default has made
me accidentally change the default application for a particular filetype
more than once.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)[email protected]+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Personally, I don't like the Senate idea, I don't like the idea of having to
elect another bunch of overpaid incompetents. I don't like the idea of having
wholesale appointments by the PM of the day for domination of the second
chamber. I like anachronism. I like the idea of a bunch of unelected congenital
idiots getting in the way of a bunch of conmen. - Charles F. Hankel, 1998-3-19.
 
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Jason

Now I know how to create a console I'm going to replace the
Computer Management one with a customized one as well.
Thanks, Dave, for your assistance. I learned something, always my goal in
these NG's. I'm still not sure what caused my original issue, but the
ability to create a custome console overrides all of that. Thanks again.

Jason
 
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Dave-UK

Jason said:
Thanks, Dave, for your assistance. I learned something, always my goal in
these NG's. I'm still not sure what caused my original issue, but the
ability to create a custome console overrides all of that. Thanks again.

Jason
Going off on a tangent, I see you're using Micro Planet Gravity newsreader.
I've noticed that when people using Gravity post a reply to someone, the post
has the 'From' name missing, making it difficult to see to whom they are
replying to.
If you look at this thread when I reply to you 'Jason' is quoted at the top but when
you reply to me 'Dave-UK' is missing.
Of course, it may not bother you, but I think it's just a setting somewhere if you
want to change the default behaviour. :)
 
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Char Jackson

Going off on a tangent, I see you're using Micro Planet Gravity newsreader.
I've noticed that when people using Gravity post a reply to someone, the post
has the 'From' name missing, making it difficult to see to whom they are
replying to.
If you look at this thread when I reply to you 'Jason' is quoted at the top but when
you reply to me 'Dave-UK' is missing.
Of course, it may not bother you, but I think it's just a setting somewhere if you
want to change the default behaviour. :)
Bravo! I've noticed the same thing but never bothered to mention it. I
know the people here by name (nym, handle, whatever), not by email
address. So when I see "(e-mail address removed) says" as above, I really have no idea
who that is by itself. (I know who it is now, [hi Dave], but I can't
say I'll remember tomorrow.)
 

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