Libraries, using

[Char Jackson]

Oh, that's terrible, now I can't see myself using the Classic Shell at all.

I use Classic Shell but I haven't seen anything in it that affects the
Libraries. They are still present and accounted for, and they still
work fine.

 

[Jeff Layman]

I have a system with an SSD, 5 internal HDD's, and 3 external HDD's, a
lot of data is split between them, and libraries makes it that much
easier to keep them in a logical order. It might not be much use for the
typical system with only one storage device inside it.

Yousuf Khan

An SSD, 5 internal HDDs, 3 external HDDs! Seems to me you've got HD OCD...

 

[Wolf K]

On 30/08/2012 7:20 PM, Paul in Houston TX wrote: [...]

The "problem" was having folders that were of no use to me.
My Win7 machine is for work only and I prefer to have all
project related data in totally separate folders with
minimal possibility of "cross contamination".
I see no need to have links to the files when I spend
all of my time in the true directories anyway.

I have a system with an SSD, 5 internal HDD's, and 3 external HDD's, a
lot of data is split between them, and libraries makes it that much
easier to keep them in a logical order. It might not be much use for the
typical system with only one storage device inside it.

Yousuf Khan

An SSD, 5 internal HDDs, 3 external HDDs! Seems to me you've got HD OCD...

I have three internal HDDs, two were originally each for a different OS.
Now one for the OS & programs, 1 for working files, 1 for archives. I
also have three external drives, all for archiving.

I don't suffer from OCD, bit from extreme data loss anxiety.... ;-)

 

[Robin Bignall]

I use Classic Shell but I haven't seen anything in it that affects the
Libraries. They are still present and accounted for, and they still
work fine.

I should have been more specific and said they don't show in the start
menu. Neither does 'Computer', which I would expect to be there.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

I have a system with an SSD, 5 internal HDD's, and 3 external HDD's, a
lot of data is split between them, and libraries makes it that much
easier to keep them in a logical order. It might not be much use for the
typical system with only one storage device inside it.

Yousuf Khan

If I were in your situation, I would (I hope) overcome my antipathy to
Libraries.

One must be practical

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Only the folders are links.


Not so. If you delete a Library folder, yes. But if you delete a file
that you see in a Library folder, the file itself is actually deleted.

That's one thing that bugs me about folders. YMMV, and Char Jackson's
mileage *does* vary. It's one of our local controversies here

I'm not sure where this post best fits in the thread, so I put it here
hoping for the best

I have used Favorites in Windows Explorer since I started Win 7.

OK, I started to think about that. It has similar properties to the
Libraries. For instance, you can "Remove" from the list any Favorite.
But if you click on a favorite, you will find that the file panel on the
right is the actual directory in question, and if you delete a file
there, you are deleting the actual file.

So how come Favorites never confused me?

In my current thinking, I have the idea that the main difference between
Favorites and Libraries is that a Favorite can only point to a single
folder, whereas a Library entry can point to a collection of items from
several folders, displayed as a flat system as though it were only one
folder. That might be what confuses me...

So now I have to reevaluate my prejudice[1].

[1] It's not actally a prejudice - it's a judgement based on experience,
so it's a postjudice

 

[John Ferrell]

I don't recall anyone suggesting that I was a troll before. Perhaps it
is a matter of perspective. Libraries are working fine for me. I
bounce around a lot doing different things I find interesting and
libraries are helpful for me to make those context switches. They also
seem to help with the 256 character string limitations on directories.
If I were a more orderly and disciplined thinker, perhaps I would not
find them so useful. We don't all share the chaotic pace that I
embrace. I have received a lot of good help here (Thanks all) and just
wanted to share a pointer.

Chew on this one for a while:
Finding that I am inclined to have lots of windows and tabs open in an
Internet browser that I want to get back to, I keep a folder on the
favorites bar called "Stack". Before I start a new direction, I save
the current tab group to it and close the group. Of course, I may
never get back to it, but I still have it and it is not in the way.

Still, Libraries are your choice but they do have sharp edges!
They can hurt!

I think the OP's a troll, actually. He's never come back, and posted -
as you rightly state - an old, very weak article. We've been through
this Library thing so many times before in the NG even "déjà vu" doesn't
cover it enough! Maybe déjà vu, déjà vu, déjà vu...

Out of interest, anyone know if they're in Win8, or have MS decided to
call them something else? If in Win8 do they work in exactly the same
way as in Win7?

John Ferrell W8CCW

 

[Jeff Layman]

If I were in your situation, I would (I hope) overcome my antipathy to
Libraries.

One must be practical

??? Yousuf uses and like libraries!
(See his post of 1 September in reply to the OP)

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

??? Yousuf uses and like libraries!
(See his post of 1 September in reply to the OP)

Or perhaps you could reread my post for comprehension[1].

If *I* were in Yousuf's situation, *I* would [use] Libraries.

[1] Let me know if I misunderstood *your* reply

 

[Jeff Layman]

??? Yousuf uses and like libraries!
(See his post of 1 September in reply to the OP)

Or perhaps you could reread my post for comprehension[1].

If *I* were in Yousuf's situation, *I* would [use] Libraries.

[1] Let me know if I misunderstood *your* reply

I see what you are getting at. I think the problem is that there are
two interpretations depending on who the "my antipathy" refers to once
you have put yourself in Yousuf's position. Who is the "I" now - you or
him? I assumed the subject was now Yousuf rather than you.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On 01/09/2012 20:32, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 23:01:29 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote:


I have a system with an SSD, 5 internal HDD's, and 3 external HDD's, a
lot of data is split between them, and libraries makes it that much
easier to keep them in a logical order. It might not be much use for the
typical system with only one storage device inside it.

Yousuf Khan

If I were in your situation, I would (I hope) overcome my antipathy to
Libraries.

One must be practical

??? Yousuf uses and like libraries!
(See his post of 1 September in reply to the OP)

Or perhaps you could reread my post for comprehension[1].

If *I* were in Yousuf's situation, *I* would [use] Libraries.

[1] Let me know if I misunderstood *your* reply

I see what you are getting at. I think the problem is that there are
two interpretations depending on who the "my antipathy" refers to once
you have put yourself in Yousuf's position. Who is the "I" now - you or
him? I assumed the subject was now Yousuf rather than you.

Actually, I agree with you, and if I had thought about that ambiguity in
advance, I might have expressed it better. Assuming I could have found a
way to do that

"If my situation was like yours, maybe I could have accepted Libraries
better" or some such thing.

Maybe we can start a 200-post subthread on this (oy weh!).

 

[Yousuf Khan]

An SSD, 5 internal HDDs, 3 external HDDs! Seems to me you've got HD OCD...

Maybe.

Actually I tend to buy hard drives to increase my storage, but I don't
tend to replace an existing hard drive with a new one, but I supplement
it. I figure that if having a larger hdd is good for capacity, then
having a larger hdd along with the old hdd is even better for capacity!

Eventually I always run into the situation where I have no more internal
drive bays left, and I do have to remove a drive from the system in
order to put a newer one in. Sometimes I put those older drives inside a
USB enclosure. Or I just sell the drive. But not too long ago I bought a
Cooler Master Haf X case, and that thing has capacity for maybe upto 10
hdd's. So I guess you can say I'm a hard drive hoarder. I hate throwing
away perfectly good drives that are still working. The Haf X case has
enabled my hoarding to continue unabated now.

Yousuf Khan

 

[Yousuf Khan]

If I were in your situation, I would (I hope) overcome my antipathy to
Libraries.

One must be practical

Yeah, I've been dealing with scattered data over multiple storage
devices, ever since the MS-DOS days. Came up with my own various
solutions over the years that looked like home-made versions of what
became Libraries. So once I learned what Libraries could do, I jumped on
the bandwagon.

I also like Windows 7's Jump Lists, and it's use-search-for-everything
paradigm. Windows 7 is in some ways going back to the convenience of the
command-line, integrated with the GUI.

Yousuf Khan

 

[choro]

Maybe.

Actually I tend to buy hard drives to increase my storage, but I don't
tend to replace an existing hard drive with a new one, but I supplement
it. I figure that if having a larger hdd is good for capacity, then
having a larger hdd along with the old hdd is even better for capacity!

Eventually I always run into the situation where I have no more internal
drive bays left, and I do have to remove a drive from the system in
order to put a newer one in. Sometimes I put those older drives inside a
USB enclosure. Or I just sell the drive. But not too long ago I bought a
Cooler Master Haf X case, and that thing has capacity for maybe upto 10
hdd's. So I guess you can say I'm a hard drive hoarder. I hate throwing
away perfectly good drives that are still working. The Haf X case has
enabled my hoarding to continue unabated now.

Yousuf Khan

You obviously also have a mobo capable of taking all those HDs. Or do
you use cards? I've never had more than 2 HDs installed in my desktops
though I am now thinking of installing a 3rd HD on my GiGA. I call it my
GiGA because, you've guessed it, I use a Giga mobo. If and when I do
install the 3rd HD, it will give me 4 TB of disk space. Surely and
overkill!--
choro
*****

 

[Yousuf Khan]

You obviously also have a mobo capable of taking all those HDs. Or do
you use cards? I've never had more than 2 HDs installed in my desktops
though I am now thinking of installing a 3rd HD on my GiGA. I call it my
GiGA because, you've guessed it, I use a Giga mobo. If and when I do
install the 3rd HD, it will give me 4 TB of disk space. Surely and
overkill!--
choro
*****

Yeah, that's another limitation, the number of SATA/IDE slots available
on the mobo. Current mobo has 6 SATA2 connectors, and 2 more SATA2's on
a PCI-e 1X card. Also part of the allotment of slots is taken up by an
optical Blu-Ray burner.

Yousuf Khan