I'm glad I use Windows


T

Tom C

I am a big fan of Netflix and love the streaming Instant queue. According
to their own site, Netflix has no plans at the moment to support the Linux
OS, so sorry Ubuntu users, you are again out of luck. How to Wiki explains
a "work around" on their site, but man, you have to go through a bunch of
hoops and hurdles and run VM to even come close. Even if you can get it to
work, according to the article, video playback may be choppy. I even
looked on Google to see if I could find other alternatives, but didn't find
anything worthwhile.

I WAS going to try installing Ubuntu on an older computer I have that meets
the Ubuntu requirements, but after seeing so many things I couldn't do with
it, I decided against even bothering to try.

I am so glad I use Windows.
 
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ray

I am a big fan of Netflix and love the streaming Instant queue.
According to their own site, Netflix has no plans at the moment to
support the Linux OS, so sorry Ubuntu users, you are again out of luck.
How to Wiki explains a "work around" on their site, but man, you have
to go through a bunch of hoops and hurdles and run VM to even come
close. Even if you can get it to work, according to the article, video
playback may be choppy. I even looked on Google to see if I could find
other alternatives, but didn't find anything worthwhile.

I WAS going to try installing Ubuntu on an older computer I have that
meets the Ubuntu requirements, but after seeing so many things I
couldn't do with it, I decided against even bothering to try.

I am so glad I use Windows.
I'm glad you use MS, as well - as long as it does what you need, go for
it. OTOH - I don't have a requirement for netflix and Linux suits my
needs quite well.
 
D

Death

ray said:
I'm glad you use MS, as well - as long as it does what you need, go for
it. OTOH - I don't have a requirement for netflix and Linux suits my
needs quite well.
If I had one speaker, I'd like it too.
LMAO
 
D

DanS

I WAS going to try installing Ubuntu on an older computer I
have that meets the Ubuntu requirements, but after seeing
so many things I couldn't do with it, I decided against
even bothering to try.
What else do you think you can't do ?

(Task-wise, not Windows specific s/w wise.)
 
T

Tom C

I'm well aware most of the difficulty I have with Ubuntu is just my
inexperience with Ubuntu, especially when it comes to having to create/edit
some of the configuration files to get certain functionality. Besides the
Netflix thing, there isn't a printer driver for my HP printer. This is a
known issue. Another area is the ability to remote into another computer
like I can with Windows. I use remote access and remote desktop to run my
office computer from home. Nest is to be able to use a dual monitor setup
with different programs running on each one. Actually, I use 4 monitors and
can run separate programs on each. Or I can combine them into one desktop.
I have not seen anything like this in Ubuntu. Not that it's not there, but
I have not been able to find it on the computer in our office we are using
to test Ubuntu. Automatically discover and configure new hardware and
wireless devices. Devices that aren't in the driver database can be
extremely hard to find and configure. We have found that the NIC we had in
the Ubuntu box is still unsupported. We are using a virtual copy of that
computer running Windows 7 on it. That is, both computers started out
having the same hardware configuration. When we installed Windows 7, it
installed all of the hardware perfectly the first time. We didn't have to
search for drivers and there was nothing we had to do to have everything
working with the hardware. . When installing Windows XP, we had to locate
the driver on the web and transfer it over using a thumb drive since it was
not able to connect to the Internet. With Windows 7, it was no issue.
Windows 7 installed the driver during the initial install. There appears to
be no driver for Ubuntu at all for the NIC. We had to go out and purchase a
new card for the Ubuntu machine.

Ubuntu looks slick. It is clean and appears to be user friendly, but that
is just the surface. After getting everything to work, it did work. But
there were still things we had to do that Windows did completely
automatically. Network discovery and configuration for one. With Windows 7
it was all done by answering a coupe of questions. Windows did the rest.
In my humble opinion, Ubuntu is just not for the majority of home computer
users. Hell, most still don't know how to set the damned clock on their 35
year old VCR. Compiling files and playing with command line interfaces just
isn't something most people will understand. That, again in my opinion,
makes Windows 7 much more user friendly, and yet, if you do get into
configurations and settings, like me, again Windows 7 makes sense. I cannot
recommend Ubuntu for the majority of users just because it takes more
knowledge than most users possess. Windows makes things easy.

Like I said, most of this may just be my inexperience with Ubuntu. Over all
though, I still have to say that as for most computer users, Windows 7 is
still the best out there and my statement stands. I'm glad I use windows 7.
I'm definitely more productive with it. Unlike one other poster on this
group, at least I will admit my ignorance.
 
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M

Muad'Dib

Tom said:
I am a big fan of Netflix and love the streaming Instant queue. According
to their own site, Netflix has no plans at the moment to support the Linux
OS, so sorry Ubuntu users, you are again out of luck. How to Wiki explains
a "work around" on their site, but man, you have to go through a bunch of
hoops and hurdles and run VM to even come close. Even if you can get it to
work, according to the article, video playback may be choppy. I even
looked on Google to see if I could find other alternatives, but didn't find
anything worthwhile.

I WAS going to try installing Ubuntu on an older computer I have that meets
the Ubuntu requirements, but after seeing so many things I couldn't do with
it, I decided against even bothering to try.

I am so glad I use Windows.
Oh brother, really, use Winders for what you absolutely HAVE TO and do
the rest in Linux. No-brainer.. And, "so many things I couldn't do with
it" like what compared to Winders and your needs? ONE problem does not
make Linux unusable. I'm having a hard time believing you as I use both
Win7 Pro and Linux, so please qualify your statement..

G'day
 
M

Muad'Dib

Frank said:
You got that backwards. In fact, why even use linux at all as Windows 7
will do everything anyone needs to do on a computer...everything!
Yup, pretty much everything for the general user, another no-brainer and
I didn't say it wasn't. I said I use them BOTH for my needs and THEY
BOTH serve me well. Thing is so does Linux do everything for the GENERAL
user, but in a more secure way. Ya just can't get over the FACT that
Winders is very unsecured can you? I don't dare do much more than listen
to ripped music, play a few Windows games, and the like in Winders, or
maybe edit a few photos. I have had to clean too many WINDERS machines
as a result of WINDERS written malware/viruses. If I need to do
research, and such, I reboot to Linux so as not to run across a hacked
trusted site thus catching nasties intended for Winders. Get over it, ya
just can't catch Winders viruses in Linux, cuz, well, they are written
FOR WINDERS! LOL What a puts, as you know jolly well what REALLY goes on
with viruses, malware, Trojans, and the like with Winders, yet you try
to deny the very well KNOWN TRUTH. What a crack-up. ..Having to clean
even Win7 machines of malware(etc) pretty much seals it for me as far as
doing ANYTHING security related in Winders, nope, I'll boot to Linux
every time. Oh, and no "snip" as a "public service" so people can jolly
well see YOUR foolishness.

G'day
 
D

DanS

I'm well aware most of the difficulty I have with Ubuntu is
just my inexperience with Ubuntu, especially when it comes
to having to create/edit some of the configuration files to
get certain functionality. Besides the Netflix thing,
there isn't a printer driver for my HP printer. This is a
known issue. Another area is the ability to remote into
another computer like I can with Windows.
I use remote
access and remote desktop to run my office computer from
home.
Ubuntu does include a program called rdesktop that will remote
desktop into a Windows box. Remoting INTO the Ubuntu box
though requires some VNC program, because it's not Windows.

Nest is to be able to use a dual monitor setup with
different programs running on each one. Actually, I use 4
monitors and can run separate programs on each. Or I can
combine them into one desktop. I have not seen anything
like this in Ubuntu. Not that it's not there, but I have
not been able to find it on the computer in our office we
are using to test Ubuntu.
I don't know about 4 monitors, but I have a dual-monitor setup
and set it up using the display properties GUI and not with
any manual editing of files. I've got an integrated nVidia
card and am add in nVidia card. I can use both video adapters
each with a monitor and use it as two separate desktops, or
how I have it now is the integrated disabled, and two monitors
plugged into the better add-in card. This config is one large
desktop across both monitors.
Automatically discover and
configure new hardware and wireless devices. Devices that
aren't in the driver database can be extremely hard to find
and configure. We have found that the NIC we had in the
Ubuntu box is still unsupported.
There appears to be no driver for Ubuntu
at all for the NIC. We had to go out and purchase a new
card for the Ubuntu machine.
And the 'upgrade' to Vista forced many to need to upgrade
other h/w too. A NIC is pretty cheap.

That may sound like a cop-out, but if you think about it, most
people aren't constantly adding/changing new
hardware......especially on a notebook. A USB flash drive
and/or camera are probably the most common thing to be
plugged/unplugged, and that isn;t an issue.
Hell, most still don't know how to set the damned clock on
their 35 year old VCR.
People still use VCR's ? (Thank god for the DVR.)
Compiling files and playing with
command line interfaces just isn't something most people
will understand. That, again in my opinion, makes Windows
7 much more user friendly, and yet, if you do get into
configurations and settings, like me, again Windows 7 makes
sense. I cannot recommend Ubuntu for the majority of users
just because it takes more knowledge than most users
possess. Windows makes things easy.
I don't disagree.
Like I said, most of this may just be my inexperience with
Ubuntu. Over all though, I still have to say that as for
most computer users, Windows 7 is still the best out there
and my statement stands. I'm glad I use windows 7. I'm
definitely more productive with it. Unlike one other
poster on this group, at least I will admit my ignorance.
So, when all is said and done and you've had trouble getting
your Ubuntu experiment working, once it is running, what can't
you do with it ? (Other than run some propreitary Windows s/w,
like a CRM/ERP package or something like that.)
 
H

Heywood Jablowme

Muad'Dib said:
Yup, pretty much everything for the general user, another no-brainer and I
didn't say it wasn't. I said I use them BOTH for my needs and THEY BOTH
serve me well. Thing is so does Linux do everything for the GENERAL user,
but in a more secure way. Ya just can't get over the FACT that Winders is
very unsecured can you? I don't dare do much more than listen to ripped
music, play a few Windows games, and the like in Winders, or maybe edit a
few photos. I have had to clean too many WINDERS machines as a result of
WINDERS written malware/viruses.
I have an up to date antivirus on my machine. My Windows machine doesn't
get infected. My Windows machine is very secure. Maybe you just don't have
a clue how to use a computer properly.


If I need to do
research, and such, I reboot to Linux so as not to run across a hacked
trusted site thus catching nasties intended for Winders. Get over it, ya
just can't catch Winders viruses in Linux, cuz, well, they are written FOR
WINDERS! LOL What a puts, as you know jolly well what REALLY goes on with
viruses, malware, Trojans, and the like with Winders, yet you try to deny
the very well KNOWN TRUTH. What a crack-up. ..Having to clean even Win7
machines of malware(etc) pretty much seals it for me as far as doing
ANYTHING security related in Winders, nope, I'll boot to Linux every time.
Oh, and no "snip" as a "public service" so people can jolly well see YOUR
foolishness.

G'day
So you have to clean Windows machines? Sounds like you either don't have an
antivirus program on your machine or you have one and are negligent with
updating it. Another possibility is that you visit questionable sites,
download whatever asks you to download. Maybe you are very foolish with
computers. In that case, you are better off with Ubuntu. Since very few
people actually use that piece of crap Ubuntu, nobody writes viruses for it!
LOL!

Mostly, Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid and are
socially inept.
 
A

Al Smith

Tom said:
In my humble opinion, Ubuntu is just not for the majority of home computer
users. Hell, most still don't know how to set the damned clock on their 35
year old VCR.

Computers are easy -- VCR clocks are hard!

-Al-
 
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R

ray

Ubuntu does include a program called rdesktop that will remote desktop
into a Windows box. Remoting INTO the Ubuntu box though requires some
VNC program, because it's not Windows.
Or using an X client on the MS side - something like Hummingbird's
Exceed, though there are less expensive and even free solutions.
 
M

Muad'Dib

Alias said:
He was talking about other people's machines and your antivirus is only
as good as its data base which is updated AFTER viruses are in the wild
infecting machines.
Yes, I was talking about OTHER people's machines, the ones I CLEAN. I
can't remember the last virus I caught on one of my machines. I find it
hilarious when people say things like, "Sounds like you either don't
have an antivirus program on your machine or you have one and are
negligent with updating it." As I have stated over and over the last few
months, it doesn't matter WHAT AV you have including corporate versions,
people are getting hit with NO warning what-so-ever, I don't care how
updated their AV is. While both Vista and Win7 are much less vulnerable
than XP is, they are still vulnerable period, regardless how updated the
AV is. LOL ..As you said, they are only as good as the latest update.
When something is released/re-released, (modified), into the wild, it
takes time for the AV people to respond, meanwhile plenty of machines
get infected. LOL, yet another no-brainer. But the Zealots have a habit
of denying this and other FACTS.
Once again, the nymshifter lies and doesn't know the difference between
Windows and Linux.
(To the nymshifter):

Hahaha, Because you say I might visit questionable sites?? A seasoned
user and tech?? P-l-e-a-s-e, get a life! And really, should it matter?
NO! It shouldn't at all. But because it is what it is, I myself am
extremely careful while surfing and booted to Winders. ..But why should
one have to be SO careful? They shouldn't. All the AV and malware
programs on earth can't help you while booted to Winders and
surfing/emailing. Just a sad fact of life.
More lies. Linux isn't just for geeks anymore.
Yeah, Zealots/Shills/Astroturfers/Advocates tend to spread lots of FUD
and just general BS. I was thinking Frank and the Nymshifter are Gates
and Balmer's alter egos, but after thinking about it a bit, those guys
are too busy and HAVE LIVES, so don't have time to be constantly posting
crap. The other idea is paid Shills/Astroturfers/Advocates/Fudsters. The
latter seems more like it. Having been accused of Advocacy myself cracks
me up. Have I not been maintaining that I use BOTH for the best of BOTH
worlds? Yep I have! Leave it to Zealots to omit/distort that.

Ya know what is super funny? It is SOOO easy to push Zealots buttons!
Particularly a couple people in general. What a crack-up! Even more
funny is that they can't come up with anything solid/intelligent for a
come-back. Nope, just foul language, insults, lies, and BS. It's
astounding to me, the lack of intelligence they show. Not that they are
stupid, but maybe just totally immature? I dunno but it is insanely
interesting. Been following one for several years now, and WOW, what a
trip. LOL What a sad, sad, little man. Sorta like a Chihuahua, so small
it HAS to be feisty to fend off what it THINKS is adversaries. Haha!

G'day
 
G

Gordon

I am a big fan of Netflix and love the streaming Instant queue. According
to their own site, Netflix has no plans at the moment to support the Linux
OS, so sorry Ubuntu users, you are again out of luck. How to Wiki explains
a "work around" on their site, but man, you have to go through a bunch of
hoops and hurdles and run VM to even come close. Even if you can get it to
work, according to the article, video playback may be choppy. I even
looked on Google to see if I could find other alternatives, but didn't find
anything worthwhile.

I WAS going to try installing Ubuntu on an older computer I have that meets
the Ubuntu requirements, but after seeing so many things I couldn't do with
it, I decided against even bothering to try.

I am so glad I use Windows.
I am so happy for you. Enjoy.

Never heard of Netflix. Heard of streaming though, so has Ms Penguin
 
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