Can't access remote disk

[Scott Meyers]

I have two machines running Windows 7, call them M1 and M2. M1 has two
disks, C and D. I've shared M1's disks with Everybody, extending Full
Control permissions. Machine M2 can see the existence of both disks in
Explorer, but when it tries to see what's in the disks, I'm told I don't
have access:

Windows cannot access \\M1\\d

You do not have permission to access \\M1\d. Contact your network
administrator to request access.

M1 has one login account with no password. M2 has one login account
with a password.

My ultimate goal is to have all files on both machines visible and
readable and writable to everybody on my home network. I tried using a
HomeGroup, but there does not seem to be a way to configure that such
that all files on both machines are visible and readable/writable to
both machines. Any idea how I can arrange for this? In my home network
environment, file access restrictions make no sense and only impede my
ability to get my work done.

Thanks,

Scott

 

[John Ferrell]

Win 7 does not like sharing with machines that do not use a password
to logon.

I have two machines running Windows 7, call them M1 and M2. M1 has two
disks, C and D. I've shared M1's disks with Everybody, extending Full
Control permissions. Machine M2 can see the existence of both disks in
Explorer, but when it tries to see what's in the disks, I'm told I don't
have access:

Windows cannot access \\M1\\d

You do not have permission to access \\M1\d. Contact your network
administrator to request access.

M1 has one login account with no password. M2 has one login account
with a password.

My ultimate goal is to have all files on both machines visible and
readable and writable to everybody on my home network. I tried using a
HomeGroup, but there does not seem to be a way to configure that such
that all files on both machines are visible and readable/writable to
both machines. Any idea how I can arrange for this? In my home network
environment, file access restrictions make no sense and only impede my
ability to get my work done.

Thanks,

Scott

John Ferrell W8CCW

 

[Ken1943]

I have two machines running Windows 7, call them M1 and M2. M1 has two
disks, C and D. I've shared M1's disks with Everybody, extending Full
Control permissions. Machine M2 can see the existence of both disks in
Explorer, but when it tries to see what's in the disks, I'm told I don't
have access:

Windows cannot access \\M1\\d

You do not have permission to access \\M1\d. Contact your network
administrator to request access.

M1 has one login account with no password. M2 has one login account
with a password.

My ultimate goal is to have all files on both machines visible and
readable and writable to everybody on my home network. I tried using a
HomeGroup, but there does not seem to be a way to configure that such
that all files on both machines are visible and readable/writable to
both machines. Any idea how I can arrange for this? In my home network
environment, file access restrictions make no sense and only impede my
ability to get my work done.

Thanks,

Scott

You have to use a WORKGROUP on each computer. Set up in Control Panel

System

Then go to Network and sharing and make sure you disconnect from your
home group. While there go to Advanced Sharing Options, on the left, and
disable the use password box.

Then right click on each drive > Advanced Sharing and add EVERYONE to
permissions and check the boxes.


KenW

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

You have to use a WORKGROUP on each computer. Set up in Control Panel

Then go to Network and sharing and make sure you disconnect from your
home group. While there go to Advanced Sharing Options, on the left, and
disable the use password box.

Then right click on each drive > Advanced Sharing and add EVERYONE to
permissions and check the boxes.

KenW

Since both machines are described as Windows 7, a Homegroup should work
fine. It certainly works here.

I think the problem is with passwords, as John Ferrell said, but I
believe it is necessary that all computers be in the same Homegroup (or
the same Workgroup, if one takes that approach).

 

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

Since both machines are described as Windows 7, a Homegroup should work
fine. It certainly works here.

I think the problem is with passwords, as John Ferrell said, but I
believe it is necessary that all computers be in the same Homegroup (or
the same Workgroup, if one takes that approach).

Actually, it is not necessary for all computers to be in the same
workgroup or homegroup for network file and printer sharing to work.
As long as the usernames and passwords match, and the appropriate users
are given permission to access the shared resource, it will work.

--
Zaphod

"So [Trillian], two heads is what does it for a girl?"
"...Anything else [Zaphod]'s got two of?"
- Arthur Dent

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Actually, it is not necessary for all computers to be in the same
workgroup or homegroup for network file and printer sharing to work.
As long as the usernames and passwords match, and the appropriate users
are given permission to access the shared resource, it will work.

OK, thanks for the clarification. That should help next time I add
something to the network.

 

[Scott Meyers]

Since both machines are described as Windows 7, a Homegroup should work
fine. It certainly works here.

I was ultimately able to make it work by setting up the same user
account (with a password) on both machines, but I'd be interested to
know how to make it work with a Homegroup. When I played with that
option, Win7 seemed to only want to share certain sets of files. I want
to give full read/write access to all files on both machines to all user
on both machines. Fundamentally, I want no security restriction behind
my firewall.

Can a Homegroup do this? It'd presumably be somewhat more secure than
my current setup, given that one of the machines is a laptop and is not
always behind my home firewall. But it's important that all files on
both machines be readable and writable from both machines.

Thanks,

Scott

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

I was ultimately able to make it work by setting up the same user account
(with a password) on both machines, but I'd be interested to know how to make
it work with a Homegroup. When I played with that option, Win7 seemed to
only want to share certain sets of files. I want to give full read/write
access to all files on both machines to all user on both machines.
Fundamentally, I want no security restriction behind my firewall.

Can a Homegroup do this? It'd presumably be somewhat more secure than my
current setup, given that one of the machines is a laptop and is not always
behind my home firewall. But it's important that all files on both machines
be readable and writable from both machines.

Scott

I haven't played much with that (Homegroups here with two Win 7
computers), since I generally just use the Shared folders, but I
*think* I have just used the usual Share dialog when I wished to share
other folders.

Since my needs are minimal, I haven't learned enough on my own to
really help you, sorry.

 

[Ken1943]

I was ultimately able to make it work by setting up the same user
account (with a password) on both machines, but I'd be interested to
know how to make it work with a Homegroup. When I played with that
option, Win7 seemed to only want to share certain sets of files. I want
to give full read/write access to all files on both machines to all user
on both machines. Fundamentally, I want no security restriction behind
my firewall.

Can a Homegroup do this? It'd presumably be somewhat more secure than
my current setup, given that one of the machines is a laptop and is not
always behind my home firewall. But it's important that all files on
both machines be readable and writable from both machines.

Thanks,

Scott

A Home group is for simple sharing of pictures and such. With a
Workgroup, you can share everything. Did you read my previous post on how
to set things up ? I can share what I want and without passwords.


KenW

 

[Ken1943]

I was ultimately able to make it work by setting up the same user
account (with a password) on both machines, but I'd be interested to
know how to make it work with a Homegroup. When I played with that
option, Win7 seemed to only want to share certain sets of files. I want
to give full read/write access to all files on both machines to all user
on both machines. Fundamentally, I want no security restriction behind
my firewall.

Can a Homegroup do this? It'd presumably be somewhat more secure than
my current setup, given that one of the machines is a laptop and is not
always behind my home firewall. But it's important that all files on
both machines be readable and writable from both machines.

Thanks,

Scott

The BIG Trick is to add user EVERYONE to permissions.


KenW

 

[Ken1943]

That should be, user EVERYONE in permissions for each folder/drive you
wish to share.


KenW

 

[Char Jackson]

A Home group is for simple sharing of pictures and such. With a
Workgroup, you can share everything. Did you read my previous post on how
to set things up ? I can share what I want and without passwords.

Actually, the way I understand it is that Homegroups share only
Libraries, but you can create any Library you'd like. So in effect,
you can share anything with a Homegroup as long as you create a
Library first, or use one of the default Libraries.

I haven't done it, but that's what I get from reading about it.

 

[Ken1943]

Actually, the way I understand it is that Homegroups share only
Libraries, but you can create any Library you'd like. So in effect,
you can share anything with a Homegroup as long as you create a
Library first, or use one of the default Libraries.

I haven't done it, but that's what I get from reading about it.

I think I tried it before I knew better. If you create a library, you
have to move all files to it. Kind of stupid if you want to share a whole
drive. I have 4 computers and each have a D partition that I share plus a
"Download Firefox" folder on C each. I bought Network Magic to do the
sharing before info started to show up on how to do it manually adding
user 'everyone' to permissions.


KenW

 

[Char Jackson]

I think I tried it before I knew better. If you create a library, you
have to move all files to it. Kind of stupid if you want to share a whole
drive.

When you create a new Library, you don't "move" any files into it.

Out of curiosity, I just created a new Library that I called
"Everything". I added one folder to it: the root of C:\. As expected,
that Library now has the entire C: drive available in it.

I have 4 computers and each have a D partition that I share plus a
"Download Firefox" folder on C each. I bought Network Magic to do the
sharing before info started to show up on how to do it manually adding
user 'everyone' to permissions.

Your way works. Homegroups would also work.

 

[Ken1943]

When you create a new Library, you don't "move" any files into it.

Out of curiosity, I just created a new Library that I called
"Everything". I added one folder to it: the root of C:\. As expected,
that Library now has the entire C: drive available in it.


Your way works. Homegroups would also work.

Ok. Thanks for the info.


KenW

 

[Scott Meyers]

Out of curiosity, I just created a new Library that I called
"Everything". I added one folder to it: the root of C:\. As expected,
that Library now has the entire C: drive available in it.

Are you sure? I have not tried this, because I don't find Windows 7
libraries useful, but I did go to the root of C: and share it with
Everybody, and that *seemed* to work for a while, but then I discovered
that when I went to C:\Users from a remote machine, I had no access to
the various user directories. Instead, I had to manually go to each
User directory and share it with Everyone. So sharing the root of a
drive does not seem to automatically share all the subdirectories, at
least in the case where the drive is where Windows is installed and the
subdirectories in question are under User.

Scott

 

[Scott Meyers]

Are you sure? I have not tried this, because I don't find Windows 7
libraries useful, but I did go to the root of C: and share it with
Everybody

Sorry, my mistake, I shared with "Everyone", not "Everybody".

Scott

 

[Char Jackson]

Are you sure? I have not tried this, because I don't find Windows 7
libraries useful, but I did go to the root of C: and share it with
Everybody, and that *seemed* to work for a while, but then I discovered
that when I went to C:\Users from a remote machine, I had no access to
the various user directories. Instead, I had to manually go to each
User directory and share it with Everyone. So sharing the root of a
drive does not seem to automatically share all the subdirectories, at
least in the case where the drive is where Windows is installed and the
subdirectories in question are under User.

I don't have Homegroups enabled here so I didn't test it from a remote
machine. What I was testing was the capability to create a single
Library that encompassed the entire drive. That part worked.

The next step, I suppose, is to enable Homegroups and share that
specific Library. It's possible that things will be similar to what
you experienced above, especially when it comes to User directories.

 

[Scott Meyers]

I don't have Homegroups enabled here so I didn't test it from a remote
machine. What I was testing was the capability to create a single
Library that encompassed the entire drive. That part worked.

Or at least seemed to work Things don't work until they've been
shown to work. My C: drive says it's shared with Everyone and that
Everyone has full read/write access. It has the little shared icon next
to the drive. Yet there are parts of that drive that are not shared
with anybody. I know that some of the User directories aren't, and
there may be others that aren't, either. Just because I haven't
discovered them doesn't mean they don't exist.

From what I can tell, there is no simple way to share all files in all
directories on a machine. There appear to be multiple ways to appear to
do this, but my guess is that they are all illusions. But my
experiments have been very limited, so perhaps there is something I
don't know about.

Scott

 

[Char Jackson]

Or at least seemed to work

The part that I tested worked fine. I didn't go all the way because
I'm not using Homegroups and I was too lazy to set it up.

Things don't work until they've been
shown to work. My C: drive says it's shared with Everyone and that
Everyone has full read/write access. It has the little shared icon next
to the drive. Yet there are parts of that drive that are not shared
with anybody. I know that some of the User directories aren't, and
there may be others that aren't, either. Just because I haven't
discovered them doesn't mean they don't exist.

From what I can tell, there is no simple way to share all files in all
directories on a machine. There appear to be multiple ways to appear to
do this, but my guess is that they are all illusions. But my
experiments have been very limited, so perhaps there is something I
don't know about.

Do you plan to test the Homegroups feature?