AVG PC Tuneup. Any good?

Discussion in 'alt.windows7.general' started by Allen Drake, Jan 29, 2012.

  1. In message <>, Ken Blake
    No, it's just intellectually unsatisfying. Windows - and software, from
    myriad sources, that runs under it - is extremely complex these days,
    and so much _does_ cause things to "silt up": OK, some _very_
    conscientious (and knowledgeable) people this may not apply to, but most
    of us find that the registry, the hard disc, and the startup (and
    continuously running) parts of a Windows installation do gain lots of
    things we don't understand, and therefore can't easily decide whether to
    remove or not. It's what eventually makes most people buy a new
    computer, I suspect - the fact that their old one has become a lot less
    responsive than when it was new. Sure, a reinstall would cure it, but
    most people are reluctant to do that - not least because they can't
    _remember_ how they set up things just the way they have and like them
    (apart from the speed drop) now.

    I take your points that ...
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    .... and ...
    ; it's just _irritating_ that the unnecessary stuff is there, since we
    know that removing such chaff in the startup and running parts _does_
    speed things up.

    IMO, the registry, as originally conceived (around the time of Windows
    3.11?) as a central repository for lots of settings, was a Good Idea -
    and, while it used human-readable keys etc., remained so; however,
    partly because of copy-protection reasons and partly because of lazy
    programming, it became full of incomprehensible strings of numbers, and
    is now a necessary evil.
     
    J. P. Gilliver (John), Feb 1, 2012
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  2. Allen Drake

    Ken Blake Guest


    You're welcome to that opinion, but I completely disagree that "the
    registry ... of a Windows installation do[es] gain lots of things we
    don't understand" makes Windows "a lot less responsive than when it
    was new."
     
    Ken Blake, Feb 2, 2012
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  3. Allen Drake

    z Guest

    Hi Al.

    I have regularly been using the registry cleaner in CCleaner for several
    months on 2 PCs, and 2 Laptops without any problems. It was recomended
    to me by a tech support person who has been using it for years.

    Nick.
     
    z, Feb 2, 2012
    #23
  4. Ah, the joys of snippage! I didn't say that: I listed several places
    that things silt up, not just the registry.
     
    J. P. Gilliver (John), Feb 2, 2012
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  5. Allen Drake

    Stan Brown Guest

    And here we go again. :-(
     
    Stan Brown, Feb 2, 2012
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    choro Guest

    By all means *take the bull by the horns* so long as you are aware that
    you might get gored in the process!

    Good luck!

    And you might really need it!
    -- choro
     
    choro, Feb 2, 2012
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  7. Allen Drake

    Ken Blake Guest


    I'll repeat what I've said here many times:

    Let me point out that neither I nor anyone else who warns against the
    use of registry cleaners has ever said that they always cause
    problems. If they always caused problems, they would disappear from
    the market almost immediately. Many people have used a registry
    cleaner and never had a problem with it.

    Rather, the problem with a registry cleaner is that it carries with it
    the substantial *risk* of having a problem. And since there is no
    benefit to using a registry cleaner, running that risk is a very bad
    bargain.
     
    Ken Blake, Feb 2, 2012
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  8. In message <>, Ken Blake
    Indeed: _any_ tampering with the reg. is risky.
    But I'd disagree with _no_ benefit. I _would_ concede that any actual
    benefit, in terms of things like greater processor speed and shorter
    startup time, are in most cases likely to be imperceptibly small - which
    could be described as no _practical_ benefit. Against a real risk.
     
    J. P. Gilliver (John), Feb 2, 2012
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  9. Allen Drake

    Allen Drake Guest

    I am not 'fraid. What is the worse that could happen? I could have to
    go back to the clone installed in one of my play systems. That means
    changing a cable from one drive to another then do it all over again.
    I have spare systems sitting here collecting dust just calling to me.

    Al.
     
    Allen Drake, Feb 2, 2012
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  10. Allen Drake

    Ken Blake Guest


    If you want to say that "no benefit" and an "imperceptibly small"
    benefit (or "no _practical_ benefit") are different enough to talk
    about, OK--I won't argue with you. But as far as I'm concerned, they
    are close enough to the same thing that it's nowhere near worth
    talking about any difference between them.
     
    Ken Blake, Feb 3, 2012
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  11. Allen Drake

    chris dziew

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    Its basically worthless, and it changes a whole lot of things without permission. A free program called advanced system care is much better and easier to use.
     
    chris dziew, Feb 10, 2016
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