ASUS Eeee PC 1000HD Win7 Install

[Char Jackson]

I am glad I finally found someone that has some sense.

The idiomatic expression, "you've hitched your horse to the wrong
wagon", was never more appropriate.

 

[mechanic]

In common parlance, you always connect an output to an input. In this
case, the laptop has the output and the TV has the input, so we would
say the laptop is connected to the TV rather than saying the TV is
connected to the laptop.

Eh? Don't you connect the TV to the aerial (or in the US antenna)?

 

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

The idiomatic expression, "you've hitched your horse to the wrong
wagon", was never more appropriate.

+1

--
Zaphod

Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster: A cocktail based on Janx Spirit.
The effect of one is like having your brain smashed out
by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.

 

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

Eh? Don't you connect the TV to the aerial (or in the US antenna)?

Nope, I connect the antenna to the TV (or actually, the cable). As
Char said, you connect the output to the input.

 

[Ken Blake]

In common parlance, you always connect an output to an input. In this
case, the laptop has the output and the TV has the input, so we would
say the laptop is connected to the TV rather than saying the TV is
connected to the laptop.

I don't that's so universally common. It probably depends greatly on
what the two things being connected are.

So if you are talking about a lamp, the electricity comes out of the
wall sockets and into the lamp, but probably none of us would say the
socket is connected to the lamp.

The same is true about a hose and a water spigot.


Thinking about it some, I think the primary distinction is that one of
the things being connected is normally stable, and the other is
mobile. You typically connect the mobile thing to the stable one.

 

[Wolf K]

Eh? Don't you connect the TV to the aerial (or in the US antenna)?

Erm, "connect" is a binary relation. If you connect A to B, you also
connect B to A. If there's a preferred way of saying it, it's idiomatic,
for which there ain't no logic nohow and never wuz.

And for the record, _I_ connect the antenna to the radio/TV, not the
other way round.

Hah!

;-)

Wolf K.

 

[Wolf K]

I don't that's so universally common. It probably depends greatly on
what the two things being connected are.

So if you are talking about a lamp, the electricity comes out of the
wall sockets and into the lamp, but probably none of us would say the
socket is connected to the lamp.

The same is true about a hose and a water spigot.


Thinking about it some, I think the primary distinction is that one of
the things being connected is normally stable, and the other is
mobile. You typically connect the mobile thing to the stable one.

Now there's a hypothesis that can be tested. A quick survey of "connect
A to B" suggests it's correct. Well done, Ken!

Wolf K.

 

[Allen Drake]

Oh, so then you connected your TV to your PC. Now I get it. I
thought you connected your PC to your TV. [...]

Ah, now I get it. When you meet a car, you are driving towards it, but
it's not driving towards you.....

;-)

You completely lost me with that one. My car and I met a long time
ago now we drive together every where we go.

 

[Wolf K]

Oh, so then you connected your TV to your PC. Now I get it. I
thought you connected your PC to your TV. [...]

Ah, now I get it. When you meet a car, you are driving towards it, but
it's not driving towards you.....

;-)

You completely lost me with that one. My car and I met a long time
ago now we drive together every where we go.

Nice one!

Wolf K.

 

[Allen Drake]

Of course - but a Windows Update making a system unstable is a
completely different issue from a system becoming infected because a
Windows Update is or is not applied....

The results would have been exactly the same. In the end the cure was
to replace the hosed system with a clone. While googling the problem I
had there were countless others that had the same problem dating back
several years but MS still had not fixed it. I have had far more
problems with Windows then any infections(0) that needed more
attention then any virus. I have never had one problem with any system
that I have turned off WU. Many of my systems only go online to
download purchased SW and others for various reasons. Do I need to get
updates to all of them? Hell no.

The answer is that MS and many here in these groups think all
computers are used in the same manner when they are not.

 

[Char Jackson]

On 27/02/2012 3:44 AM, Allen Drake wrote:
Oh, so then you connected your TV to your PC. Now I get it. I
thought you connected your PC to your TV. [...]

Ah, now I get it. When you meet a car, you are driving towards it, but
it's not driving towards you.....

;-)

You completely lost me with that one. My car and I met a long time
ago now we drive together every where we go.

Nice one!

Not really. He misread it and confused "when you meet a car" with
"when you meet YOUR car", which completely misses the point.

 

[Allen Drake]

In Allen Drake typed:

Seagate uses Acronis and that should work. My only beef with cloning
with Acronis is it doesn't save my RealFlight keys. Which having all of
the addons and expansion packs adds up to about 18 different keys.
Although if you are backing up and restoring (different than cloning),
Acronis could mess that up if you are not careful.


EBay's Buyer Protection is very good nowadays (years ago it wasn't). So
worse comes to worse you would need to ship it back to get your money
back if one you bought was pirated.

I had Windows 2000 on this machine a couple of years ago for a few days.
Then I put XP back on it again. And a few days ago I just put Windows
2000 back on it again. So I am still learning what I can do and what I
can't under Windows 2000. And I am surprised how much of my stuff will
actually run under 2000 still.

It seems to me Flash v9 is the last one you can run under 2K. And I see
no .NET stuff here yet and I have a feeling that .NET won't run under 2K
either (which is perfectly fine by me). Two of the shocking things that
work are Avast6 and Trillian 5 (multiple IM application). And I thought
for sure Trillian 5 needs .NET to work. 2K did need KB816542 before
Avast6 would install.

I have never shopped on Ebay. I was mostly referring to the multitude
of other sites that off W2K for sale. There was even one that said it
was Torrent. I am not familiar with that but I think it might be a
pirate location. I also saw some that offered SP updates but it all
got a bit confusing to me. If I need SP3 then I won't know until I get
it and then can I still download it?

 

[Char Jackson]

The answer is that MS and many here in these groups think all
computers are used in the same manner when they are not.

If by "used in the same manner" you mean connected to the Internet,
then yes. If you have a Windows computer that's connected to the
Internet, then yes, you would be well advised to keep its OS fully
patched and up to date. That doesn't make you safe by itself, but it
makes you a lot safer than the alternative, occasional anecdotes to
the contrary notwithstanding.

 

[Char Jackson]

Now there's a hypothesis that can be tested. A quick survey of "connect
A to B" suggests it's correct. Well done, Ken!

We were (or at least I was) talking about connecting AV components
together. You don't connect a TV to a laptop, you don't connect a
receiver to a turntable, and you don't connect a TV to an antenna, as
three AV examples. You always connect the output to the input. Don't
be so easily confused by the fact that, once connected, the two items
are connected *to each other*. To get to that point, you had to first
connect them, and you always connect the output of something to the
input of something else.

Trying to use a water hose or a floor lamp as examples only muddies
the waters.

 

[Stefan Patric]

Sheer luck more like. I take all the critical updates for whatever OS I
am running when they are released and I have only had ONE infection
ever, in over 20 years, when I accidentally connected a pre-SP1 XP
machine to the internet, when Windows Firewall was turned off by
default. Why do you think that there are hardly any viruses for Linux in
the wild? One reason is because when a vulnerability is identified the
patch is released almost immediately and people UPDATE! I've never heard
so much balarney about reasons NOT to update.

Additionally, Linux doesn't run its users by default with admin (root, in
Linux-speak) privileges. That one thing makes Linux more secure as
almost all malware needs write access to System areas or direct hard
drive write access to the boot sector, the Master Boot Record, etc. to
work which Linux users don't have. How many Windows users do you know
who never create a user account at all, but just run as the Administrator
all the time? That's an infection waiting to happen. And it does, all
the time. Security starts with secure design philosophy.


Stef

 

[Stefan Patric]

In news:[email protected], Stefan Patric typed:

In Stefan Patric typed:

[snip]

If you're talking about on the 701, that's one of the reasons I opted
for the 900. That, and the larger screen and keyboard. The 900 was a
much improved model. Asus seemed to have corrected most of the caveats
of the 700 series.

Well I use both 701 and 702s. Not a big difference except the 702s the
SSD is replaceable and comes with 8GB instead of 4GB on the motherboard
(the 701SD is replaceable too, but comes with the less impressive MLC
SSD). And I never owned a 900, but it isn't really better than a 702
IMHO except for two SSD and a larger screen.

As far as the 702 being no "better" than the 900, my choice was based on
user reviews and features. The fact that the 900 had a larger screen, a
larger keyboard, and took two SSDs made it better for me than any of the
700s. Performance-wise--same cpu, RAM, OS--I'm sure the differences
would be marginal.

[snip]

I've got 2000 Pro SP4 running on an 11 year old Thinkpad 240X--500MHz
P3, 192MB RAM--along with a very customized install of Debian 4 (Etch)
with the lightweight XFCE desktop. Even when running on battery when
the CPU speed drops to 166MHz, both run smoothly. However, as with the
EeePC, I never play HD or rarely, if ever, any other kind of video on
it. So, I can't say how well it played them. I do know that with
either OS, regular Flash ads and YouTube stuff played fine. Although,
I never viewed them at full screen, which is only 800x600. It was for
years my "travel" machine for e-mail, Usenet, word processing, expense
sheet, etc.

Weird. I have two Toshiba 2595XDVD with 192MB of RAM and 400MHz Celeron.
One has Windows 98SE on it and the other Windows 2000. Back then I used
the Windows 2000 one more often than not. No today I think it takes
likes 8 minutes to boot.

When running off A/C with the CPU at 500MHz, W2k on the old 240x takes
about a minute-thirty to the login prompt, and perhaps 45 seconds or a
little more to a usable desktop after login. So, 2.25 to 2.5 minutes
total. But then I have no "extra" stuff starting up at boot. Very
Spartan. Only the basics needed to boot and connect to a network--wired
or wireless.

Huh? I never see Windows 2000 or higher or any Linux use just a tad more
than 100MB. I am really interested how this could be done. I don't know
what the minimum is for Windows 98, but I am pretty sure that anything
over 64MB doesn't help much. As adding more didn't improve much at all
for me.

Well, I am running both OSes very spartan. Just the basics. No eye
candy. No special or favorite utilities. No extras that aren't
absolutely necessary. Plus, there's minimum hardware--just the hard
drive, PCMCIA, USB, and a built-in modem that is turned off in BIOS. So,
fewer drivers to load.

Stef

 

[Ken Blake]

Trying to use a water hose or a floor lamp as examples only muddies
the waters.

No, no! A water hose may muddy the waters, but certainly not a floor
lamp. ;-)

But sorry to have misunderstood your point.

 

[Char Jackson]

No, no! A water hose may muddy the waters, but certainly not a floor
lamp. ;-)

But sorry to have misunderstood your point.

Ha! I should have left it at the water hose and not included the floor
lamp. That would have made more sense.

 

[Char Jackson]

Additionally, Linux doesn't run its users by default with admin (root, in
Linux-speak) privileges.

Neither does Windows 7, right?

How many Windows users do you know who never create a user account at all,
but just run as the Administrator all the time?

With Win 7? None that I know of.

 

[Allen Drake]

If by "used in the same manner" you mean connected to the Internet,
then yes. If you have a Windows computer that's connected to the
Internet, then yes, you would be well advised to keep its OS fully
patched and up to date. That doesn't make you safe by itself, but it
makes you a lot safer than the alternative, occasional anecdotes to
the contrary notwithstanding.

I don't keep most of my systems connect to the Internet and don't
even have email SW. I don't surf the net and only download SW when I
absolutely need to. Using these boxes I wouldn't take the chance of
having them contaminated with WU that assumes I they are simply
general use computers.