TV stick with audio description?

  • Thread starter J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Mortimer

J G Miller said:
France, Germany, Letzebuerg, Vlaanderen and others all managed to
achieve transition to terrestrial digital without any known problems
and none of them keep changing the frequencies of the multiplexes
or require viewers to rescan at least once a month because of EPG
changes.

But then as you keep reminding everybody, foreigners will insist on
doing thing differently ;)
It's a shame that different countries have different ways of implementing
subtitles (eg for the hard of hearing) and the UK method (a separate stream
alongside the video) doesn't lend itself to being transferred to DVD format.

OK, let countries keep their line/frame rates and their means of reception
(VHF or UHF), but make sure that everything else is compatible worldwide.
When analogue standards like PAL, SECAM and NTSC were devised, there wasn't
the same need for worldwide compatibility; now there is.

Also, make sure that all hardware and all software can write to one common
file format (as well as any proprietary ones) which incorporates all the
features. OK, most software/hardware can read/write MPG but that can't store
metadata like episode title, plot summary, etc and can't store subtitles,
whereas Microsoft formats like DVR-MS (Win Vista) and WTV (Win 7) can, as
can transport formats like TS - but not everything can read that.

Is there any hardware player that can read WTV? It would be so nice to be
able to record and edit out commercials on my PC, and then access the
resulting files (a shared drive on the PC) on a player connected to the TV.
Some "extenders" (to use Microsoft's term) exist, but they seem to require
the PC to "push" the video rather than using the player to "pull" the video
off the shared drive, so you need to control the playing from the PC which
may be in another room :-(


Here in the UK we seem to have made a real hash of the conversion to
digital, with a retuning when digital switchover enters its first phase and
then another one a week later when it enters its second phase. And there's
talk that some of the mobile phones that use the UHF frequencies that are
freed up when all the transmitters have turned off analogue may interfere
with neighbouring digital TV, requiring someone (mobile phone operators?
broadcasters? householders?) to pay for bigger aerials or in extreme cases
satellite instead of Freeview, if reception is compromised.

If there is a chance that mobile phones may interfere with TV, it sounds as
if someone hasn't done their job properly and should rethink the selling off
of the spectrum if they can't coexist.

And I pity people who get their TV from a relay rather than a main
transmitter because they won't get the full six multiplexes so they will be
missing some channels. At last I'm OK where I am.
 
J

John Williamson

Here is the problem with the towers in the US:

Live Maps
http://binged.it/MeTVH3
Ah, yes, I could see that might be a problem...

(Spoiler for Brian Gaff, it's a picture of a TV transmitting mast with
the top half misaligned with the bottom by about the cross section of
the mast)
 
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Andy Burns

John said:
(Spoiler for Brian Gaff, it's a picture of a TV transmitting mast with
the top half misaligned with the bottom by about the cross section of
the mast)
And the shadows for the top and bottom sections about 30 degrees apart
on the ground.
 
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Char Jackson

Ah, yes, I could see that might be a problem...

(Spoiler for Brian Gaff, it's a picture of a TV transmitting mast with
the top half misaligned with the bottom by about the cross section of
the mast)
What does that picture show, exactly? As nearly as I can tell, it's
showing a tower in the process of being erected, but the caption above
says, "Here is the problem with the towers in the US." What problem is
being referred to?
 
J

John Williamson

What does that picture show, exactly? As nearly as I can tell, it's
showing a tower in the process of being erected, but the caption above
says, "Here is the problem with the towers in the US." What problem is
being referred to?
If you look closely, it's an aerial picture of a complete tower that's
been made as a composite of two originals taken from different angles at
different times of day. The tower is misaligned in the picture, so the
top is displaced sideways. I know the tower is complete, because just to
the left of the top section, you can see the shadow of the antennae at
the top of it.

It *looks* as if the tower is in two parts, which would be a problem if
it were true. It's a joke...
 
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Char Jackson

If you look closely, it's an aerial picture of a complete tower that's
been made as a composite of two originals taken from different angles at
different times of day. The tower is misaligned in the picture, so the
top is displaced sideways. I know the tower is complete, because just to
the left of the top section, you can see the shadow of the antennae at
the top of it.

It *looks* as if the tower is in two parts, which would be a problem if
it were true. It's a joke...
Thanks. *shrug* I appreciate the explanation, although when a joke has
to be explained to me the humor mostly evaporates out of it. :)
 
J

John Williamson

Thanks. *shrug* I appreciate the explanation, although when a joke has
to be explained to me the humor mostly evaporates out of it. :)
I saw the reason immediately I saw the picture, but also saw the humour
at the same time.
 
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Andy Burns

Char said:
What does that picture show, exactly? As nearly as I can tell, it's
showing a tower in the process of being erected
Just an artifact from Bing's stitching together of images I assume,
streetview does similar all the time with lampposts etc.
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

Andy said:
Just an artifact from Bing's stitching together of images I assume,
streetview does similar all the time with lampposts etc.
Indeed. Not a USB stick (or software for one) that will receive audio
description in the UK.
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Aardvark

Whatever happened to skyhooks?

One is definitley needed here...

I have to say that there are days when I feel like that tower looks :)
Semi-erect?
 
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Iceman

J G Miller wrote June 19th 2012 in
France, Germany, Letzebuerg, Vlaanderen and others all managed to
achieve transition to terrestrial digital without any known problems
and none of them keep changing the frequencies of the multiplexes
or require viewers to rescan at least once a month because of EPG
changes.

But then as you keep reminding everybody, foreigners will insist on
doing thing differently ;)
The metric system comes to mind. ;-)
 

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