SemiOT: Norton Security Suite.

[Andy]

SemiOT: Norton Security Suite.

Comcast is offering this suite free to subscribers, replacing the McAfee
suite.

I visited the Symantec website and "System Requirements" indicated they
have the Win7 x64 version. I thought that was a step in the right
direction.

I downloaded it and prepared to install it, then I thought I better read
the EULA. AM I GLAD I DID.

They're able to install some pretty intrusive "criminal" (???) detection
softwares at their convenience without the user's consent. They can also
gather up and send every URL and search term you've used, among other
datas.

This Norton software is more an invasion of privacy ("Big Brother") than
security software, imho. I canceled the install.

If you're going to install Norton's Security Suite, READ the EULA very
carefully!

Andy

 

[Agent_C]

Comcast is offering this suite free to subscribers, replacing the McAfee
suite.

AFAIC, Microsoft Internet Security is a complete game changer.

Better than McAfee or Norton, free and unobtrusive.

A_C

 

[Dave]

AFAIC, Microsoft Internet Security is a complete game changer.

Better than McAfee or Norton, free and unobtrusive.

A_C

When I switched I had found a review that rated MSIS as high or higher than
many of the big names. Only drawback is that it's not a suite, due to the
howling by the big names MS might have limited it just to get it out.
Anyway, been using it for appx 3-4 months now and really like it.
YMMV, YRMBD, and etc.
Dave

 

[Alex Clayton]

SemiOT: Norton Security Suite.

If you're going to install Norton's Security Suite, READ the EULA very
carefully!

Andy

When I see anything that says Norton or Symantec I pass on it. I would not
care if they were paying me to use it. I tried some of their stuff years ago
and it was nothing but problems. I hear more complaints about their stuff
than all the others combined.

 

[Alex Clayton]

When I switched I had found a review that rated MSIS as high or higher
than many of the big names. Only drawback is that it's not a suite, due to
the howling by the big names MS might have limited it just to get it out.
Anyway, been using it for appx 3-4 months now and really like it.
YMMV, YRMBD, and etc.
Dave

I tried the MS on one machine soon after it was done. Liked it so much I
switched them all to it. It works great on 3 different OS's.

 

[Andy]

AFAIC, Microsoft Internet Security is a complete game changer.

Better than McAfee or Norton, free and unobtrusive.

A_C

Agent_C,

Does the MSIS reside somewhere under the hood of Win7? x64? Or is it a
separate download? URL?

I'm all in favor of unobtrusive!!!

For years I've gotten safely by with SpywareBlaster and Spybot Search &
Destroy w/TeaTimer, etc., etc.

Thanks,

Andy

 

[Alex Clayton]

Does the MSIS reside somewhere under the hood of Win7? x64? Or is it a
separate download? URL?

I'm all in favor of unobtrusive!!!

Thanks,

Andy

<http://www.microsoft.com/Security_essentials/>

From their site you can choose 32 or 64 . I use it on XP 32 bit, Vista 32
bit, and 2 Win.7 64 bit.

 

[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

<http://www.microsoft.com/Security_essentials/>

From their site you can choose 32 or 64 . I use it on XP 32 bit,
Vista 32 bit, and 2 Win.7 64 bit.

If I install Windows Security Essentials and change my mind, can I
uninstall easily and completely? Or does it require major surgery to
get rid of, like Symantec?

 

[Andy]

<http://www.microsoft.com/Security_essentials/>

From their site you can choose 32 or 64 . I use it on XP 32 bit, Vista
32 bit, and 2 Win.7 64 bit.

Alex Clayton,

Thanks for the URL.

The x64 install was painless. It's running through the initial scan at
the moment.

I'm hesitant to give up SpywareBlaster after so many years. There's also
probably some redundancy between Spybot Search & Destroy, Windows
Defender and Microsoft Security Essentials all of which don't run as
background tasks so conflicts are slim, I'm guessing. Being current is
most important.

Best,

Andy

 

[Trev]

SemiOT: Norton Security Suite.

Comcast is offering this suite free to subscribers, replacing the McAfee
suite.

I visited the Symantec website and "System Requirements" indicated they
have the Win7 x64 version. I thought that was a step in the right
direction.

I downloaded it and prepared to install it, then I thought I better read
the EULA. AM I GLAD I DID.

They're able to install some pretty intrusive "criminal" (???) detection
softwares at their convenience without the user's consent. They can also
gather up and send every URL and search term you've used, among other
datas.

This Norton software is more an invasion of privacy ("Big Brother") than
security software, imho. I canceled the install.

If you're going to install Norton's Security Suite, READ the EULA very
carefully!

Andy

I would not worry about what it can tell. It will not let your computer Work
Its worse then a Virus.

 

[Andy]

I would not worry about what it can tell. It will not let your
computer Work Its worse then a Virus.

Trev,

It was EXACTLY like a virus!!!!!!

I was running ZoneAlarms (free) and made it "Ask" for Norton's access.

It wanted such constant access in and outbound that I saw no better
solution than to delete it.

The new laptop (Win7 x64) came with Norton trialware installed. Exact
same intrusive behavior.

What was I thinking, taking up Comcast's free offer???

For the record, McAfee was pretty intrusive as well!

Best,

Andy

 

[Alex Clayton]

Alex Clayton,

Thanks for the URL.

The x64 install was painless. It's running through the initial scan at
the moment.

I'm hesitant to give up SpywareBlaster after so many years. There's also
probably some redundancy between Spybot Search & Destroy, Windows
Defender and Microsoft Security Essentials all of which don't run as
background tasks so conflicts are slim, I'm guessing. Being current is
most important.

Best,

Andy

From what the experts have told me, having several malware programs is fine,
and many seem to think it's best. What they tell me not to do is have more
than 1 antivirus program running. If you want to keep things for spyware it
should never be a problem.

 

[Alex Clayton]

If I install Windows Security Essentials and change my mind, can I
uninstall easily and completely? Or does it require major surgery to
get rid of, like Symantec?

--

Don't know. I have never had trouble with it since I tried it. I have not,
yet, been reading anything bad about it though. Norton OTOH seems to be
forever pissing people off.

 

[Alex Clayton]

For the record, McAfee was pretty intrusive as well!

Best,

Andy

I used McAfee for several years, and all was fine. Then at one update,
things would not work. I then found out about free stuff like AVG. Dropped
McAfee, and that was when the fun started. They will not answer the phone
when you try to cancel. I gave up. The next time it was due they charged my
card. I spent :45 on the phone, then gave up and called the bank and did a
charge back. Next year, same thing. This time I did not bother with them,
just went strait to the bank. Next year same thing, even though bank had
changed the numbers on the account. Bank could not give me a strait answer
how they managed to charge again, but said if they did it again they were
going to file fraud charges next. That was the last time I heard from them.
AVG worked great for years as did Avast. Only problem was now and then a
Windows update would cause problems. That was why I figured I would try the
MS program. I figure they will be less likely to send out an update that
screws with their own stuff. Only time will tell, but so far with several
updates on 3 OS's, everything keeps working fine.

 

[Char Jackson]

The new laptop (Win7 x64) came with Norton trialware installed. Exact
same intrusive behavior.

What was I thinking, taking up Comcast's free offer???

For the record, McAfee was pretty intrusive as well!

New computers can benefit greatly from decrapifying, i.e., getting rid
of the trialware and other crap that most people don't want. The
decrapifier program allows you to choose what to keep or remove.
Highly recommended.

http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/

 

[William Baldwin]

SemiOT: Norton Security Suite.

Comcast is offering this suite free to subscribers, replacing the
McAfee suite.

Frying pan...fire

 

[Bob Hatch]

SemiOT: Norton Security Suite.

Comcast is offering this suite free to subscribers, replacing the McAfee
suite.

I visited the Symantec website and "System Requirements" indicated they
have the Win7 x64 version. I thought that was a step in the right
direction.

I downloaded it and prepared to install it, then I thought I better read
the EULA. AM I GLAD I DID.

They're able to install some pretty intrusive "criminal" (???) detection
softwares at their convenience without the user's consent. They can also
gather up and send every URL and search term you've used, among other
datas.

This Norton software is more an invasion of privacy ("Big Brother") than
security software, imho. I canceled the install.

If you're going to install Norton's Security Suite, READ the EULA very
carefully!

Andy

I can't think of a person I dislike enough to install any Norton program
on their computer.


--
"Never argue with an idiot, they will knock you
down to their level and beat you with experience."
Unknown

http://www.bobhatch.com
http://www.tdsrvresort.com

 

[Andy]

New computers can benefit greatly from decrapifying, i.e., getting rid
of the trialware and other crap that most people don't want. The
decrapifier program allows you to choose what to keep or remove.
Highly recommended.

http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/

Char Jackson,

I've used PC Decrapifier for years on previous laptops, I just forgot to
install it this time around on the new Win7 box.

Thanks for reminding me!

Best,

Andy

 

[Andy]

Frying pan...fire

William Baldwin,

Too TRUE!

Best,

Andy

 

[Char Jackson]

Char Jackson,

I've used PC Decrapifier for years on previous laptops, I just forgot to
install it this time around on the new Win7 box.

Thanks for reminding me!

Best,

Andy

Glad to help.