REEEAAAALLLLLY tired of "Access is denied"!!!!


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BillW50

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Char said:
You're obviously wrong, but I don't have the energy to enlighten you.
I think the easiest thing to do might be to continue using XP if Win 7
doesn't meet your needs. That would require less effort than actually
learning something new. Good luck.
I have been learning for 35 years and when I see going backwards back to
MS Bob, I have a problem. The idea isn't to make the user more stupid,
but far smarter. So you too favor making the user more stupid, do ya?
 
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Leon Manfredi

Microshit 7!!!!! Extremely un user friendly.. It Sucks as badly as
Vista..... What do you expect from plagerized property....
 
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Char Jackson

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I have been learning for 35 years and when I see going backwards back to
MS Bob, I have a problem. The idea isn't to make the user more stupid,
but far smarter. So you too favor making the user more stupid, do ya?
What was the biggest criticism of Windows since its inception? That's
right, lack of security when nearly every other popular OS had it. So
when Microsoft finally addresses their weakest area, you call it a
step backwards?

There are two things wrong with your viewpoint. First, it's completely
bass ackwards, and second, if you don't like it there are trivial ways
to defeat it, but you seem unwilling and/or unable to embrace anything
of that nature. Being stubborn isn't working well for you, in case you
haven't noticed.
 
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Nil

No need to update drivers which don't even exists anyway. Although
firing some new programmers sounds like a good idea to me at
Microsoft and Ubuntu.
Chipset and motherboard drivers exist for just about every computer.
Sounds to me like you have a vendor problem. You should contact ASUS
for updated drivers.
 
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BillW50

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Seth said:
When ASUS fixes their drivers the battery issue will go away.
BS! When Windows 7 and Ubuntu stops being know it alls, then it will
stop! I don't go for this nonsense that OS pretends to know it all. That
turns me off really badly. And I hold the programmers responsible for
all of the mistakes they make by being morons which they don't know any
better.
 
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Why? It works fine under XP and Xandros. Only Windows 7 and Ubuntu has a
problem.
Since you apparently want it to work under Windows 7, it seems
irrelevant to me that it works under other Operating Systems.
 
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Leon said:
Microshit 7!!!!! Extremely un user friendly.. It Sucks as badly as
Vista..... What do you expect from plagerized property....
Actually I believe Windows 7 (including Vista) is extremely friendly to
the inexperienced. To the experienced, it is a total insult.
 
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Nil said:
Chipset and motherboard drivers exist for just about every computer.
Sounds to me like you have a vendor problem. You should contact ASUS
for updated drivers.
No things are just fine! Windows 7 and Ubuntu just needs to butt out.
There is nothing wrong and they have no business saying otherwise.
 
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BillW50

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Char said:
Since you apparently want it to work under Windows 7, it seems
irrelevant to me that it works under other Operating Systems.
Both Windows 7 and Ubuntu are smart asses. They think they know what is
going on and don't really. I'll take them on but I am sure they are too
afraid to do so. Just like any experienced user they would be afraid to
do so.

Inexperienced users would have no problems with Windows 7 and Ubuntu. I
totally get that. But don't assume for a second that experienced users
are okay with it.
 
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Char Jackson

Microshit 7!!!!! Extremely un user friendly.. It Sucks as badly as
Vista..... What do you expect from plagerized property....
One of my long-time friends (and customers) is an 84 year old widow.
She hung onto Windows ME thru the Vista years (out of fear of the
unknown) but finally moved up to Windows 7 last year. She says she
doesn't know why she waited, that Windows 7 is no harder to use than
ME. A few things are slightly different, mostly just cosmetic, but for
the most part you can sit down and use it right off the bat. It's not
perfect, but "user unfriendly" isn't one of its major problems, IMHO.
 
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Char Jackson

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BS! When Windows 7 and Ubuntu stops being know it alls, then it will
stop! I don't go for this nonsense that OS pretends to know it all. That
turns me off really badly. And I hold the programmers responsible for
all of the mistakes they make by being morons which they don't know any
better.
It sounds like computers in particular, and perhaps technology in
general, may not be for you. What other hobbies do you have?
 
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Nil

It sounds like computers in particular, and perhaps technology in
general, may not be for you. What other hobbies do you have?
If macrame isn't already on the comeback trail, this is the perfect
opportunity.
 
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Char Jackson

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Both Windows 7 and Ubuntu are smart asses.
Smart asses are people. Windows 7 and Ubuntu are Operating Systems.
See the difference?
They think they know what is going on and don't really.
They don't 'think' anything. They just do what they're told. As you've
been told multiple times just within this silly thread, the things
you're complaining about are easily changed, and it's even easier to
simply take a moment to learn how to use those features as intended.
I'll take them on but I am sure they are too afraid to do so. Just
like any experienced user they would be afraid to do so.
That appears to be babbling nonsense. What does it mean?
Inexperienced users would have no problems with Windows 7 and Ubuntu. I
totally get that. But don't assume for a second that experienced users
are okay with it.
I assume the vast majority are entirely OK with it, especially the
experienced users. You claim to be experienced, but that's clearly not
the case when it comes to Win 7.
 
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BillW50

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Seth said:
Which doesn't make it a proper operating model. It is a great part of
the reason Windows has been the "less secure" OS for so long.
You know I have been running Windows since Windows 3.1 and you don't
know how many times I have heard this. Yet I never been infected with a
virus yet. Although I don't pretend for a second that others have.
Experience makes all of the difference.
AV runs as a service which is a different level than a user. Microsoft
updates run as "TrustedInstaller" which is the owner of the
\Windows and \Program Files when security (UAC) is turned on.
And the user who knows what they are doing isn't.
Applications doesn't always use the Windows registry and uses

INI files are so last decade.
Sometimes it is better than having the registry to load stuff that isn't
even going to be running? That is a huge problem with the registry. The
registry does this all of the time and it is just stupid!
Lets face it, the vast majority of computer users (and by extension
that would include Windows users) are (by computer standards) morons.
Well 80% like Windows 7 so there you go.
Again, too dangerous cause it could be infected after you have given
it a green light.
Oh so on or off is better? I have been using Battstat v0.98 Beta for
years and it is perfectly safe. Doesn't communicate on the Internet or
anything. Doesn't change other files or anything. I have used it for
years. It is perfectly safe. UAC thinks otherwise and flags it. This is
nothing but BS!
Microsoft was doing things in a way that all logical security
considered "bad". Now that it's adopted the same\similar security
methodology of the other OSs software should be written to conform.
How come MAC and Linux users aren't crying about their version of UAC
and it's restrictions?
Yes I hear the cries. But people who get infected need help, I get that.
But people who don't, it is nothing but bad.
Again, if you feel you are superior to the security go ahead and turn
UAC off. My main development box where I am doing things "against
proper security" all the time, I have it off. All my other machines
I have it on. The 140,000 machines for which I generate the "Global
configuration" for within my company will also have UAC on.
No you don't get it! The idea of UAC is a good thing. But on or off
isn't good enough. If I know a program is perfectly safe just leave it
alone. If for some reason an unknown program pops up, I want UAC to butt
in. But Microsoft is too stupid nowadays to do it the right way.
 
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BillW50

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Char said:
One of my long-time friends (and customers) is an 84 year old widow.
She hung onto Windows ME thru the Vista years (out of fear of the
unknown) but finally moved up to Windows 7 last year. She says she
doesn't know why she waited, that Windows 7 is no harder to use than
ME. A few things are slightly different, mostly just cosmetic, but for
the most part you can sit down and use it right off the bat. It's not
perfect, but "user unfriendly" isn't one of its major problems, IMHO.
No surprise there. As Windows 7 was designed just for her. Wasn't
designed for me though. I think of it as an insult for experienced
users.
 
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BillW50

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Char said:
It sounds like computers in particular, and perhaps technology in
general, may not be for you. What other hobbies do you have?
Been using computers for 35 years. How long have you been using them?
Can't the experience users have a say about anything anymore? Or is it
the clueless control everything nowadays?
 
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Nil

Both Windows 7 and Ubuntu are smart asses. They think they know
what is going on and don't really. I'll take them on but I am sure
they are too afraid to do so. Just like any experienced user they
would be afraid to do so.
You might as well complain that your bicycle has two wheels and you
only want one. You're free to either take advantage of the design and
features of the bicycle, as billions do, or get yourself a unicycle. If
you're unwilling to learn and work with the design of Windows 7, as
millions of people happily do, you're free to use any one of many
alternatives.

Or, you could adjust your habits and attitude and continue to work just
as productively with the new operating system as you did before.
Inexperienced users would have no problems with Windows 7 and
Ubuntu. I totally get that. But don't assume for a second that
experienced users are okay with it.
I know what I'm doing. It doesn't get in my way.
 
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BillW50

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Char said:
Smart asses are people. Windows 7 and Ubuntu are Operating Systems.
See the difference?
No I don't. Explain it. As smart asses created both. They think they
know it all and they don't and they just don't have the experience. They
are nothing but amateurs.
They don't 'think' anything. They just do what they're told. As you've
been told multiple times just within this silly thread, the things
you're complaining about are easily changed, and it's even easier to
simply take a moment to learn how to use those features as intended.
I learned and I still don't like it. If I learn somebody is doing
something dumb, that is it? Microsoft have done many dumb things over
the decades (since '83 actually). Since I know what is going on and you
don't, that makes you smarter? I don't think so.
That appears to be babbling nonsense. What does it mean?
It means I am not afraid! Although when I hear nonsense, I have trouble
with it.
I assume the vast majority are entirely OK with it, especially the
experienced users. You claim to be experienced, but that's clearly not
the case when it comes to Win 7.
Pure BS! I used Windows 7 for over a year. How many years do you have to
use Windows 7 for an experienced user? What a million fricken years?
 
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DanS

Microsoft missed the boat here. UAC isn't all bad. But
Again, too dangerous cause it could be infected after you
have given it a green light.
That's a bogus argument.

You run this program all the time, and it requires a UAC prompt,
so you click through.

You now get 'infected' with something...

You launch the 'infected' program, a UAC prompt shows, and you
click through and allow the 'infected' program to run.

So what's the difference ?

(Nothing, unlike several other security s/w packages that can
actually detect the file has changed for some reason since it
was last run, and it actually tells you this, so you can make an
informed decision about it.)
 

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