Off Topic - Outlook Connecter

[pjp]

Where does one go for Outlook Connecter help using Office 2003?

I'm sitting here with an email in my outbox now for hours while it
happily collects email from same account, e.g. doesn't seem to want to
send.

Damn MS why not at least allow OE to run under Vista and 7 instead of
this f'ing crap to use online email when so many know they don't want
their email stored someplace else for anyone at anytime to read, e.g. US
Gov. for one anytime it wants to.

Do I really have to keep an XP VM running just so I can continue to use
OE under Vista and 7?

 

[Char Jackson]

Where does one go for Outlook Connecter help using Office 2003?

I'm sitting here with an email in my outbox now for hours while it
happily collects email from same account, e.g. doesn't seem to want to
send.

What does Outlook's log say?

Damn MS why not at least allow OE to run under Vista and 7 instead of
this f'ing crap to use online email when so many know they don't want
their email stored someplace else for anyone at anytime to read, e.g. US
Gov. for one anytime it wants to.

You mention MS Outlook, which is a mail client, and you mention online
storage of your email. Which is it? Outlook retrieves your email and
stores it on your host, optionally leaving a copy on the mail server
so that you can perhaps access it with a web browser. What are you
trying to accomplish?

Do I really have to keep an XP VM running just so I can continue to use
OE under Vista and 7?

You have Outlook, and you long for the days of OE?? That makes no
sense to me.

 

[Ken Blake]

Outlook retrieves your email and
stores it on your host, optionally leaving a copy on the mail server
so that you can perhaps access it with a web browser.

Or perhaps access it using Outlook on another computer. I have Outlook
on my laptop set to leave it on the server so I can get it again on my
desktop after I get home.

 

[choro]

Solution: dump Hotmail and use GMail instead.

Or use the thundering bird. I use both Thunderbird and Gmail. I give
would be spammers my non gmail address and thus keep my gmail relatively
free of spam. With my other email I can block emails from certain
sources but I don't think this can be done with Gmail. Or can it? I
haven't really looked carefully into this.--
choro
*****

 

[Ken Blake]

Or use the thundering bird. I use both Thunderbird and Gmail. I give
would be spammers my non gmail address and thus keep my gmail relatively
free of spam. With my other email I can block emails from certain
sources but I don't think this can be done with Gmail. Or can it? I
haven't really looked carefully into this.--

Read your Gmail in an e-mail program instead of on the web, and you
can do anything your e-mail program is capable of. With all (almost
all?) e-mail programs, you can block emails from certain sources.


And as far as I'm concerned, using an e-mail program (almost *any*
e-mail program) is far better than reading it on the web.

 

[Zaidy036]

Read your Gmail in an e-mail program instead of on the web, and you
can do anything your e-mail program is capable of. With all (almost
all?) e-mail programs, you can block emails from certain sources.


And as far as I'm concerned, using an e-mail program (almost *any*
e-mail program) is far better than reading it on the web.

or read GMail on the web and run TBird to back up GMail by using IMAP.

Then will have all email in TBird on your machine but can access all
mail on the web from anyplace and machine you happen to be on.

 

[choro]

Read your Gmail in an e-mail program instead of on the web, and you
can do anything your e-mail program is capable of. With all (almost
all?) e-mail programs, you can block emails from certain sources.


And as far as I'm concerned, using an e-mail program (almost *any*
e-mail program) is far better than reading it on the web.

Oh, I don't know. I quite like Gmail and tend to use Thunderbird mostly
for Newsgroups. The only thing I have against Gmail is the fact that if
you *insert* (as opposed to *attach*) a very large image to you email,
the text lines become as wide as the inserted image. And this leads to
an anomaly where you have to keep scrolling for each line of text. And
moreover, you get the Google adverts on the RHS of the screen overlap
the text of the email. Most disconcerting. But other than than, I find
Gmail ideal. --
choro
*****

 

[choro]

or read GMail on the web and run TBird to back up GMail by using IMAP.

Then will have all email in TBird on your machine but can access all
mail on the web from anyplace and machine you happen to be on.

I think I did that at one time but decided that keeping it simple is
best. So now, I might Forward one or two Gmails to my other email
address which I follow in Thunderbird. I do the reverse too forwarding
my Gmails to Thunderbird. I have stopped using Thunderbird to follow
both my email accounts synchronously. Actually I can access my other
account on the Web too as my Tbird is configured to leave everything on
the ISP's server as Unread.--
choro
*****

 

[...winston]

Hello pjp,

It's not exactly clear what you might be using...here's an overview of the Microsoft programs that use the 'Outlook name' either as
stand-alone, add-in or web based.

Outlook is a full featured desktop email client included as component in specific versions of Microsoft Office,

Outlook Connector is an add-in for Outlook and used to configure, send and receive messages using the Http Protocol for Hotmail
type accounts (Hotmail.com, Live.com, Msn.com, Outlook.com)

Outlook.com is a web interface that replaces the Hotmail web interface.

It's 2012 (almost 2013). Development on OE (Outlook Express ceased over 6 yrs ago).


Do you need to keep a VM or XP running to continue to use OE on Vista and Windows 7 ?
- Yes
- OE is a component of Windows (initially packaged/bundled beginning in 1997 [15 yrs ago]with IE4 and continued to IE6). OE was
discontinued and replaced by Windows Mail in Vista (coincidentally development on Windows Mail ceased at the same time as OE circa
2006).

If you are using the Outlook Connector in Outlook 2003, your account is a Hotmail type account (of the domain noted above) and is
stored locally on your machine in a *.ost file and also mirrored on the web UI (Outlook.com - Also known as Hotmail.com or
Mail.live.com). Once mail is downloaded into Outlook, it can be copied of moved to any user created folder in Outlook which will
store the entirely offline in the primary Outlook user's profile file (*.pst)...once done any mail in the Outlook Connector account
can be deleted. Deletion will remove the mail from the web server (cloud).

All email's until download are stored someplace else (i.e. on the cloud on the respective account's web server).

Fyi...if using the Outlook Connector for a Hotmail type account using the Http protocol, OE won't help with that since it no longer
supports that protocol (discontinued about 4 yrs ago).

If you wish to setup your Hotmail account (the same one used in the Outlook Connector) then it can be set up in Outlook entirely
independent of the Outlook Connector using the POP3 Protocol and store all your messages offline in the Outlook users profile *.pst
file

Hotmail and MSN Accounts POP3/SMTP Access
http://liveunplugged.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/hotmail-and-msn-accounts-pop3smtp-access/

What do you really want to do ?
1. Use Outlook 2003 ?
2. Use the Outlook Connector in Outlook 2003 ?
3. Use the web interface at Outlook.com

The above determines where you go to look for help.


--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"pjp" wrote in message

Where does one go for Outlook Connecter help using Office 2003?

I'm sitting here with an email in my outbox now for hours while it
happily collects email from same account, e.g. doesn't seem to want to
send.

Damn MS why not at least allow OE to run under Vista and 7 instead of
this f'ing crap to use online email when so many know they don't want
their email stored someplace else for anyone at anytime to read, e.g. US
Gov. for one anytime it wants to.

Do I really have to keep an XP VM running just so I can continue to use
OE under Vista and 7?

 

[Ken Blake]

Oh, I don't know. I quite like Gmail a

My comment had nothing to do liking or disliking Gmail. My point was
simply that as far as I'm concerned, reading Gmail (or any other kind
of e-mail) in am e-mail program is greatly preferable to reading it as
webmail. Webmail is much slower and much less convenient,

The only time I use webmail is if I am traveling without my laptop (or
don't have WI-Fri available for it) and have to read my mail on a
public computer.

 

[choro]

My comment had nothing to do liking or disliking Gmail. My point was
simply that as far as I'm concerned, reading Gmail (or any other kind
of e-mail) in am e-mail program is greatly preferable to reading it as
webmail. Webmail is much slower and much less convenient,

The only time I use webmail is if I am traveling without my laptop (or
don't have WI-Fri available for it) and have to read my mail on a
public computer.

Have you heard of U3 flash sticks? You can carry that around you with
all the normally used programs already installed on it and once you plug
it into any Windows computer, you can do whatever you normally do on
*your* computer without leaving a trace on the host computer. Though I
have a sneaking suspicion that you might have to turn off the host
computer, for there to be no trace left of your activities using the U3
flashstick. Don't know whether they still sell them but Sandisk provided
flash sticks with basic U3 software already installed on it. You could
even buy a U3 version of MS Office to install on your U3 flashstick
though I made do with OpenOffice. But there were plenty of free or paid
programs you could install on your U3 stick.

As for email programs v. Webmail, I can't figure out your reasoning. As
far as I am concerned, Gmail *is* Webmail. I can access my other account
from my computer normally using TBird or via the Web and my ISP's
Webmail service is more or less a clone of Gmail. So, what's the
difference beween Gmail and Webmail? Please elucidate as there might
possibly be a point that escapes me.--
choro
*****

 

[pjp]

Hello pjp,

It's not exactly clear what you might be using...here's an overview of the Microsoft programs that use the 'Outlook name' either as
stand-alone, add-in or web based.

Outlook is a full featured desktop email client included as component in specific versions of Microsoft Office,

Outlook Connector is an add-in for Outlook and used to configure, send and receive messages using the Http Protocol for Hotmail
type accounts (Hotmail.com, Live.com, Msn.com, Outlook.com)

Outlook.com is a web interface that replaces the Hotmail web interface.

It's 2012 (almost 2013). Development on OE (Outlook Express ceased over 6 yrs ago).


Do you need to keep a VM or XP running to continue to use OE on Vista and Windows 7 ?
- Yes
- OE is a component of Windows (initially packaged/bundled beginning in 1997 [15 yrs ago]with IE4 and continued to IE6). OE was
discontinued and replaced by Windows Mail in Vista (coincidentally development on Windows Mail ceased at the same time as OE circa
2006).

If you are using the Outlook Connector in Outlook 2003, your account is a Hotmail type account (of the domain noted above) and is
stored locally on your machine in a *.ost file and also mirrored on the web UI (Outlook.com - Also known as Hotmail.com or
Mail.live.com). Once mail is downloaded into Outlook, it can be copied of moved to any user created folder in Outlook which will
store the entirely offline in the primary Outlook user's profile file (*.pst)...once done any mail in the Outlook Connector account
can be deleted. Deletion will remove the mail from the web server (cloud).

All email's until download are stored someplace else (i.e. on the cloud on the respective account's web server).

Fyi...if using the Outlook Connector for a Hotmail type account using the Http protocol, OE won't help with that since it no longer
supports that protocol (discontinued about 4 yrs ago).

If you wish to setup your Hotmail account (the same one used in the Outlook Connector) then it can be set up in Outlook entirely
independent of the Outlook Connector using the POP3 Protocol and store all your messages offline in the Outlook users profile *.pst
file

Hotmail and MSN Accounts POP3/SMTP Access
http://liveunplugged.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/hotmail-and-msn-accounts-pop3smtp-access/

What do you really want to do ?
1. Use Outlook 2003 ?
2. Use the Outlook Connector in Outlook 2003 ?
3. Use the web interface at Outlook.com

The above determines where you go to look for help.

What I want is an email client program will access Hotmail as well as
both ISP's I have an account with and collect all email such that it
becomes local on my pc.

I am using Office 2003's Outlook program. I setup both ISP accounts as
per usual, e.g. POP3. I setup Hotmail as HTTP. The Hotmail account
displays as seperate In-Out-Sent boxs from the other two accounts which
seem to be combined into the one Inbox etc..

The Hotmail account seems at best unreliable. After stating it has done
its Send/receive cycle it'll show no emails yet web page interface will
have some. Outgoing email sending is at best sporadic. I've been forced
to give up it sending after hours of waiting for no apprent reason and
that's even though it has collected email from Hotmail during that
period. I end up having to use the web interface instead. There's no
indication of any issues it's having or anything like that.

 

[Ken Blake]

As for email programs v. Webmail, I can't figure out your reasoning. As
far as I am concerned, Gmail *is* Webmail. I can access my other account
from my computer normally using TBird or via the Web and my ISP's
Webmail service is more or less a clone of Gmail. So, what's the
difference beween Gmail and Webmail? Please elucidate as there might
possibly be a point that escapes me.

As I tried to say earlier, GMail is *not* webmail. Yes, you can access
your GMail account, read your mail, send your mail, etc. on the web.
But that is only one way to do those things. You can also do them with
any standard e-mail program. You can do it using Thunderbird; I do it
using Outlook 2010.


Here are the instructions for you to use Thunderbird for GMail:
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=180189

 

[Char Jackson]

My comment had nothing to do liking or disliking Gmail. My point was
simply that as far as I'm concerned, reading Gmail (or any other kind
of e-mail) in am e-mail program is greatly preferable to reading it as
webmail. Webmail is much slower and much less convenient,

A big +1.

The only time I use webmail is if I am traveling without my laptop (or
don't have WI-Fri available for it) and have to read my mail on a
public computer.

Same here, and using a web browser is painful in comparison to using a
real email client.