C
Char Jackson
Agreed, but I got thrown by the idea that OE might have ever been king
of the roost. That's completely foreign to me.
of the roost. That's completely foreign to me.
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Gene E. Bloch
Thanks. That looks perfect for the OP.
And your post implies something about my searching skills
I'll add it to my bookmarks before I forget (the whole mozillazine, that
is)...Done.
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bettablue
"Jim" wrote in message
It's my understanding that Microsoft Live Mail will no longer provide or
facilitate access to NNTP newsgroups, and that they are gradually
eliminating access. With Windows 7, I can no longer get access to
newsgroups even though I pay a monthly fee to a commercial service for
newsgroup access. ( I have been able to get access on Thunderbird, but
not on Windows Live Mail or Yahoo mail.)
Does this mean that newsgroup access is no longer of general interest,
and that it may eventually die off? Or, am I doing something wrong when
I try to access them on Yahoo or Windows mail? - I would be interested
in what others are using and recommend for newsgroup access.
Reading some of the Microsoft pronouncements on the matter, it sounds
like they want us to shift to Microsoft discussion groups of various
kinds, which apparently have Microsoft supervision and moderation. (In
the past, I have found NNTP newsgroups, both moderated and unmoderated,
to be a great source of information on a variety of subjects. I would
hate to see them go.)
Jim
Bettablue wrote:
I am using WLM 2011 running on Windows 7 and have no problems accessing the
newsgroup servers. Cox ended their support of newsgroup access several
months ago, so I added Eternal_September to WLM for NNTP access and
everything is fine. Of course, Eternal_September doesn't support any kind
of imaging or video content, but at least it gives me access to the groups I
want/need.
It's my understanding that Microsoft Live Mail will no longer provide or
facilitate access to NNTP newsgroups, and that they are gradually
eliminating access. With Windows 7, I can no longer get access to
newsgroups even though I pay a monthly fee to a commercial service for
newsgroup access. ( I have been able to get access on Thunderbird, but
not on Windows Live Mail or Yahoo mail.)
Does this mean that newsgroup access is no longer of general interest,
and that it may eventually die off? Or, am I doing something wrong when
I try to access them on Yahoo or Windows mail? - I would be interested
in what others are using and recommend for newsgroup access.
Reading some of the Microsoft pronouncements on the matter, it sounds
like they want us to shift to Microsoft discussion groups of various
kinds, which apparently have Microsoft supervision and moderation. (In
the past, I have found NNTP newsgroups, both moderated and unmoderated,
to be a great source of information on a variety of subjects. I would
hate to see them go.)
Jim
Bettablue wrote:
I am using WLM 2011 running on Windows 7 and have no problems accessing the
newsgroup servers. Cox ended their support of newsgroup access several
months ago, so I added Eternal_September to WLM for NNTP access and
everything is fine. Of course, Eternal_September doesn't support any kind
of imaging or video content, but at least it gives me access to the groups I
want/need.
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Stan Brown
Except that your news software screws up the quoting. Please read the
other threads on this very topic in this very newsgroup.
E
Ed Cryer
It's on the wane, pal. ISPs have one after the other shut down their
news-servers, and it's lone individuals doing public service who are
keeping it alive.
There's the guy in Rome who runs Aioe; machine in the basement of his
mother's house down near the Tiber, flooded out last year and hit
trouble with his ISP, but fought nobly to resurrect it.
Then there's Ray Banana on Eternal-September; he's a delight of a man, a
modern hero.
Google Groups is still available (updated very, very late over the
weekend). I doubt they'll cut off too soon; call it Google-honour!
No, social networking is going over to the Web; and things like Facebook
and Twitter.
Ah well, c'est la vie!
Ed
G
Gordon
Incorrect. Windows Live Mail WILL access NNTP servers.
G
Gordon
Spmething that top posts. if you are using Thunderbird then set it to
BOTTOM posting...
M
milt
Just poorly so people won't want to use it, will blame NNTP for their
problems, and go off to use HTTP-based forums.
C
choro
You like being bottom shafted, I see! ;-)
R
relic
It's not a WLM fault, it can be set to bottom post.Gordon said:
S
Stan Brown
Right. Lone individuals like the University of Berlin.
T
Tester
Top posts is better. Who in their right mind wants to scroll down a
long thread just to read two lines of a message! You better start
learning better ways to save time and frustration in this world where
information overload is rife!
Bottom posts is fine for corporate emails because law requires these
days to keep a full thread of messages to keep a record of what the
management is doing.
long thread just to read two lines of a message! You better start
learning better ways to save time and frustration in this world where
information overload is rife!
Bottom posts is fine for corporate emails because law requires these
days to keep a full thread of messages to keep a record of what the
management is doing.
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Roy Smith
That's what I like about the QuoteCollapse add-on for Thunderbird. It
collapses quoted material in a post to just the first line of the most
recent quoted material. There is a toggle so that one can expand the
quoted material if one needs to have a refresher of what the
conversation is about. I know Agent has the ability to mute quoted text
as well and I'm sure that there are other newsreaders that can do it
too. So your argument of having to scroll through lots of text doesn't
hold water. Though I do agree that more people need to get into the
habit of trimming down what they are quoting to what is relevant to
their reply.
--
Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.7
Monday, January 31, 2011 5:24:17 AM
S
Stan Brown
There should never be a "long thread" with just two lines at the end.
Trim your quotes.
This is Usenet, not Jeopardy. Answers come after the things they are
answering.
J
James Silverton
Tester wrote on Mon, 31 Jan 2011 03:08:43 +0000:
previous posts sufficiently recently to know what is concerned.
--
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland
Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
That presumes that you are following a thread closely and have read the
previous posts sufficiently recently to know what is concerned.
--
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland
Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not
J
John Morrison
No they're not. <gd&r>
T
Tester
There is absolutely no need to follow the entire thread because all you
need to do is to respond to that particular post you have read. If it
is not clear from it what he/she is talking about then there is no need
to respond. For example, my this post is dealing with your message
only. There is no need to read any other messages in the thread to know
what you are about.
Can you imagine when you have 50 or more messages in one thread? How
far do you go to read all that crap?
need to do is to respond to that particular post you have read. If it
is not clear from it what he/she is talking about then there is no need
to respond. For example, my this post is dealing with your message
only. There is no need to read any other messages in the thread to know
what you are about.
Can you imagine when you have 50 or more messages in one thread? How
far do you go to read all that crap?