New typing behaviour with Windows 7.

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Peter Jason

The typing characteristics have changed.

EG: if I want to type " this does not appear on the screen
immediately but only after the cursor moves on. The same occurs with
other characters.

How do I turn off this feature, and what good is it anyway?

Peter
 
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SC Tom

Peter Jason said:
The typing characteristics have changed.

EG: if I want to type " this does not appear on the screen
immediately but only after the cursor moves on. The same occurs with
other characters.

How do I turn off this feature, and what good is it anyway?

Peter
What program are you seeing this behavior in? I'm not seeing it in Windows
Live Mail, Notepad, or Word 2003.
 
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Peter Jason

What program are you seeing this behavior in? I'm not seeing it in Windows
Live Mail, Notepad, or Word 2003.
I get it with Outlook10 and Agent. Also Google, Word10, Access10 too.
Peter
 
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Peter Jason

Sounds like you need to check the language you have set.

Where is the setting for such settings, all I can find is English in
USA/England/Australian/ etc. And changing these makes no difference.
 
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charlie

The typing characteristics have changed.

EG: if I want to type " this does not appear on the screen
immediately but only after the cursor moves on. The same occurs with
other characters.

How do I turn off this feature, and what good is it anyway?

Peter
It's not windows, directly.
I'd first suspect the USB hardware and drivers. Or perhaps you have a
"keylogger" running, unbeknownst to you.
Is the keyboard on a USB controller that is shared with other devices?
Some BIOS settings may also contribute to your problem, as can the
keyboard. (Wireless keyboards, usually)

I don't have this behavior.
 
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Phantom Post

Where is the setting for such settings, all I can find is English in
USA/England/Australian/ etc. And changing these makes no difference.
You might look under Ease of Access Center in control panel. There's one
spot to change settings on keyboard and another spot to change settings for
typing and reading. Maybe something in there got set inadvertently.
 
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Peter Jason

It's not windows, directly.
I'd first suspect the USB hardware and drivers. Or perhaps you have a
"keylogger" running, unbeknownst to you.
Is the keyboard on a USB controller that is shared with other devices?
Some BIOS settings may also contribute to your problem, as can the
keyboard. (Wireless keyboards, usually)

I don't have this behavior.
No it plugs into the motherboard keyboard round socket.


I tried a newer keyboad that plugs into a USB3 socket, but the
behavior was the same.
 
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Gordon

No it plugs into the motherboard keyboard round socket.


I tried a newer keyboad that plugs into a USB3 socket, but the
behavior was the same.
Is this a new computer that came with Windows 7, or an old computer you
have put Windows 7 onto?
 
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charlie

No it plugs into the motherboard keyboard round socket.


I tried a newer keyboad that plugs into a USB3 socket, but the
behavior was the same.
The keyboard driver is suspect. I'm assuming that this occurs in all
applications. There are numerous other possibilities, all somewhat remote.
 
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Monty

I get it with Outlook10 and Agent. Also Google, Word10, Access10 too.
Peter
It might be a problem just for you. I don't see that behaviour when
using Agent, NoteTab Pro, WordPerfectX5, Quattro Pro, Word10, Excel10,
OpenOffice.org Writer or Calc.
 
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Paul

Peter said:
The typing characteristics have changed.

EG: if I want to type " this does not appear on the screen
immediately but only after the cursor moves on. The same occurs with
other characters.

How do I turn off this feature, and what good is it anyway?

Peter
This doesn't exactly match your symptoms, but it might help. The
suggestion is to change the keyboard type from "United States - International" to "US".

http://www.bytesin.com/f25/windows-7-double-quotes-problem-pressing-2-times-have-effect-194.html

I had some similar, flaky behavior on the Windows 7 laptop. What
happened there, is I'm in Canada, and laptops here would be likely
to support both official languages. I don't have a problem with that,
except that Windows 7 would switch, all by itself, from one keyboard
layout option to another. Which caused one keyboard character to be
entirely wrong.

I fixed that, by changing so that only one keyboard layout option was
shown. So it had no choice, but to leave the damn keyboard alone.
I suspect your problem could be related.

When more than one keyboard layout option was available, I could
change the default to the correct value, but Windows 7 would change
it back again at random. I couldn't figure out what was going on.
The setting seemed to survive reboots, but perhaps half way
through a session, I'd start seeing garbage on the screen due
to the keyboard layout changing. Once I changed things so it only
had one option, that stopped the nonsense.

Paul
 
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BillW50

In
Peter said:
The typing characteristics have changed.

EG: if I want to type " this does not appear on the screen
immediately but only after the cursor moves on. The same occurs with
other characters.

How do I turn off this feature, and what good is it anyway?

Peter
I see something like this when I am running Windows 7. Heck I have seen
this under many OS actually, when the computer is really busy. As the
screen sometimes can't keep up with my typing when it happens. And it
won't display anything new for a split second or two and then suddenly
they all appear and things are normal once again. Is this what you are
seeing? I see this under Window 7 when I run under Thunderbird. I
haven't noticed it in anything else yet.

If this is what you are seeing, then something is hogging your CPU most
likely. It could be a poorly written program too. Some programs are
written using one single thread. And if the program is busy doing
something else, it doesn't get into picking up the keyboard input fast
enough.
 
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Brian Gregory [UK]

BillW50 said:
In

I see something like this when I am running Windows 7. Heck I have seen
this under many OS actually, when the computer is really busy. As the
screen sometimes can't keep up with my typing when it happens. And it
won't display anything new for a split second or two and then suddenly
they all appear and things are normal once again. Is this what you are
seeing? I see this under Window 7 when I run under Thunderbird. I haven't
noticed it in anything else yet.

If this is what you are seeing, then something is hogging your CPU most
likely. It could be a poorly written program too. Some programs are
written using one single thread. And if the program is busy doing
something else, it doesn't get into picking up the keyboard input fast
enough.
Yes I agree. I see this sometimes. I think it happens if your PC is
underpowered CPU wise or if some running process is using up most of the
processor power. Presumably in Windows 7 different threads are assigned to
moving the cursor and drawing fonts on the screen.
 
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Ken Blake

The typing characteristics have changed.

EG: if I want to type " this does not appear on the screen
immediately but only after the cursor moves on. The same occurs with
other characters.

This is not new in Windows 7; it's a feature that's been around for a
long time. What's new is that you have it turned on.

You're using the US-International keyboard layout, which is provided
to facilitate typing special characters like Ä. This can be turned off
in Control Panel | Regional and Language Options | Languages | Details
| Settings.



How do I turn off this feature, and what good is it anyway?

What good is it? Well, it's one way to get those characters, but not a
good way, as far as I'm concerned. Instead I use and recommend a
little freeware background program called AllChars. This lets me type
many common special characters (many of these are used in other
languages) very easily, by pressing the ctrl key followed by a
two-character mnemonic combination.

As examples of how easy they are to remember, for Ó the two characters
are ~ and n. For Ú it's c and , For Ø it's u and "

Go to http://allchars.zwolnet.com/ to download it.
 
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Peter Jason

Is this a new computer that came with Windows 7, or an old computer you
have put Windows 7 onto?
I built from the ground up. It has a i7960 CPU and a GAX58AUD7
motherboard and a GigabyteGVN480uD-15I/ video card. And 3gb RAM and a
1000W power supply. I just followed all the instructions.

Could the problem be in the motherboard BIOS?
 
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Char Jackson

I built from the ground up. It has a i7960 CPU and a GAX58AUD7
motherboard and a GigabyteGVN480uD-15I/ video card. And 3gb RAM and a
1000W power supply. I just followed all the instructions.

Could the problem be in the motherboard BIOS?
Very doubtful that it's BIOS-related. Boot from a Linux CD to see for
yourself. My money says it's a wayward Windows setting.

Also, in reviewing this thread, I never saw a clear definition of
what's happening. For example, a simple list of "I type this character
but I get this character instead" would be very helpful. Such a table
might immediately point to an alternate keyboard map.
 
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Peter Jason

This doesn't exactly match your symptoms, but it might help. The
suggestion is to change the keyboard type from "United States - International" to "US".

http://www.bytesin.com/f25/windows-7-double-quotes-problem-pressing-2-times-have-effect-194.html

I had some similar, flaky behavior on the Windows 7 laptop. What
happened there, is I'm in Canada, and laptops here would be likely
to support both official languages. I don't have a problem with that,
except that Windows 7 would switch, all by itself, from one keyboard
layout option to another. Which caused one keyboard character to be
entirely wrong.

I fixed that, by changing so that only one keyboard layout option was
shown. So it had no choice, but to leave the damn keyboard alone.
I suspect your problem could be related.

When more than one keyboard layout option was available, I could
change the default to the correct value, but Windows 7 would change
it back again at random. I couldn't figure out what was going on.
The setting seemed to survive reboots, but perhaps half way
through a session, I'd start seeing garbage on the screen due
to the keyboard layout changing. Once I changed things so it only
had one option, that stopped the nonsense.

Paul
EUREKA! I fixed it by following your suggestion by having only
"English US" in the field "installed services" in "Text Services and
Input Languages" of the control panel "Region & Language".

The symbols ` & ~ work correctly now too.

Many thanks.
 
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Bob I

Where is the setting for such settings, all I can find is English in
USA/England/Australian/ etc. And changing these makes no difference.
I see you found it.
 
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Stan Brown

The typing characteristics have changed.

EG: if I want to type " this does not appear on the screen
immediately but only after the cursor moves on. The same occurs with
other characters.

How do I turn off this feature, and what good is it anyway?

Check your regional settings (search Regional Settings, select, then
look at the Keyboards and Languages tab). You have input set to some
other language than English, one in which the " is a dead key. I bet
if you type " and then letter O it will come out as O with a
diaeresis.
 

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