Mouse suggestions


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Ed Cryer

SC said:
Believe me, Ed, when I say I have tried every feasible (and some
unfeasible) routings/taping/tacking that you can think of :) At one
point, I was ready to drill a hole through the wall just large enough to
run my plug and cord through, but since the desk is quite old, I didn't
want to ruin what (possible) value it may have by drilling holes in it.

Part of the problem is not only the 2" drop from the desk top, but the
fact that the ledge isn't that deep, either. I have just enough room for
a mouse and the heel of my hand before the front of the mouse is about
1-1.5" from the wall. If I try to go up and over the top, the cord
pushes the mouse back (towards the front edge). If I try to route the
wire to right around the side of the desk, then the bend in the wire
tries to push the mouse around to the left. I couldn't seem to win for
losing, hence the move to cordless. I'm so used to it now I don't know
if I could go back to corded even if I wanted to.
How do you manage the monitor and keyboard cables?

Ed
 
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Leala

Believe me, Ed, when I say I have tried every feasible (and some
unfeasible) routings/taping/tacking that you can think of :) At one
point, I was ready to drill a hole through the wall just large enough to
run my plug and cord through, but since the desk is quite old, I didn't
want to ruin what (possible) value it may have by drilling holes in it.

Part of the problem is not only the 2" drop from the desk top, but the
fact that the ledge isn't that deep, either. I have just enough room for
a mouse and the heel of my hand before the front of the mouse is about
1-1.5" from the wall. If I try to go up and over the top, the cord
pushes the mouse back (towards the front edge). If I try to route the
wire to right around the side of the desk, then the bend in the wire
tries to push the mouse around to the left. I couldn't seem to win for
losing, hence the move to cordless. I'm so used to it now I don't know
if I could go back to corded even if I wanted to.
Get a trackball and get it over with.
The only thing that will move is the ball.

Tried a trackball 25 years ago and never went back to a mouse since.
Hate meeces to pieces.
 
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croy

After over 20 years of using nothing but Logitech for keyboards and mice, I've
given up on them. I currently have three Logitech mice, one of which I just
bought a week ago trying to resolve problems, and nothing seems to correct the
situation, which is jerk movement half the time, to the point I walk away from
the computer as I can't do much at all. One of the mice is a Bluetooth
connection, the other two use the Logitech unifying receivers.

I do not want to go back to a wired mouse. Can anyone suggest a good quality
wireless mouse that's reliable and doesn't make the cursor jump all over the
screen. Hopefully on that has a small USB receiever that will plug in and be
forgotten. I appreciate any suggestions.

I'm using Windows 7 Professional 64bit.
How about a trackball. I'm using a Kennsington Orbit, and
like it.
 
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SC Tom

Ed Cryer said:
How do you manage the monitor and keyboard cables?
The monitor cable is down the back of the desk, and the keyboard cable goes
to the right behind the mouse pad. It doesn't push my keyboard :) (And my
KB doesn't have a USB port.)
 
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Timothy Daniels

Leala said:
Get a trackball and get it over with.
The only thing that will move is the ball.

Tried a trackball 25 years ago and never went back to a mouse since.
Hate meeces to pieces.
I, too, recommend a trackball - wired or wireless. I used to get
muscle spasms in my right neck and shoulder, but I finally figured
out that it was due to supporting my right hand to work the mouse.
With a trackball, my hand rests on the trackball, and now no muscle
spasms.

I also recommend a small laptop-size wireless mouse with the
"speed" set high so that just finger movement (as opposed to
whole hand movement) will move the pointer.

*TimDaniels*
 
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Timothy Daniels

"SC Tom" replied:
Because of the style of desk I have, a wired mouse is more trouble than it's
worth. The mouse ledge (for lack of a better description) is about 2" lower
than the desk top, with a solid wall behind it. No matter how I route a
cord, it always seems to bind and push the mouse on its own, making the
cursor track on its own. I have a MS Wireless Natural Laser Mouse 6000
(about 4 or 5 years old), and I have had no trouble with it. Battery life is
~6 months with two AA batteries.

I guess I could buy another desk that would be more mouse "tail" friendly,
but this one is just the right height for me, my mouse and keyboard, and my
monitor. Plus it's big enough for my 23" monitor and my 17" laptop to
coexist (and all the other "'crap' that seems to end up on it), so I'd
really hate to give it up to accommodate a wired mouse, IYKWIM :)

I use a Logitech Wi-Fi trackball (love it) for my desktop PC, and a Dell
Bluetooth Travel Mouse (love it) for my laptop. But, after 3 years of perfect
function, they both started losing connection frequently for 6 months. I live
in a condo building, and I asked my neighbor if he had installed anything
wireless in the past 6 months, and he said "No". Then he and his wife broke
up and he moved out. Suddenly both wireless mice started working perfectly
again! If you can't get consistently good connections for your wireless mice
(either Wi-Fi or Bluetooth), try changing the frequency band used by any
wireless routers or burglar alarms that you may have. At the range that
wireless mice have to operate, there is no reason other than RF interference
that they should lose connection.

*TimDaniels*
 
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XS11E

SC Tom said:
Because of the style of desk I have, a wired mouse is more trouble
than it's worth. The mouse ledge (for lack of a better
description) is about 2" lower than the desk top, with a solid
wall behind it. No matter how I route a cord, it always seems to
bind and push the mouse on its own, making the cursor track on its
own. I have a MS Wireless Natural Laser Mouse 6000 (about 4 or 5
years old), and I have had no trouble with it. Battery life is ~6
months with two AA batteries.
I'm using a Microsoft Wireless Desktop 3000, a very old and very
obsolete setup that works perfectly with Windows 7 and Windows 8.

The wireless keyboard allows me to swivel my chair sideways and put the
keyboard in my lap and elevate my feet to ease my damaged back.

I could wish for longer battery live but Costco sells trays of AA
batteries for a reasonable price so I'm OK with it.

FWIW, I have a friend who cannot use a wired mouse, his cat sees the
wiggling mouse cord and immediately chomps it! He's tried coating the
cord with various substances such as cayenne pepper to no avail so he's
now on a wireless mouse and his troubles are over. Personally, I'd
find a new home for the cat but he likes the beast....
 
Z

Zaphod Beeblebrox

Oh, my God, the lengths people go to just over mouse tails. Get one with
a soft pliable chord for heaven's sake, secure it to the table with
anything such as anything with a bit of weight and make sure the chord
forms a loop in the air just behind the bum of the mouse. That way you
have all the pliability as the curl gets smaller or bigger accoriding to
how you move the mouse. PURRRFECT is how the cat purrs as the mouse
screws it! --
choro
*****
Perhaps you failed to read my post in its entirety. There is no way to
do what you suggest with my home system, and the stiffness or softness
of the "chord" (perhaps you mean "cord"?) will make no difference
whatsoever. As far as work goes, I have achieved something that mostly
eliminates the issue but having already tried your method I can tell
you it is insufficient for my particular layout. Honestly, I've never
seen any real difference between the various mouse cords anyway. And,
as is often the case in a work environment, we don't have the option to
choose our equipment, so I cannot say if a soft pliable cable is able
to help.

--
Zaphod

Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster: A cocktail based on Janx Spirit.
The effect of one is like having your brain smashed out
by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.
 
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teste

escreveu na mensagem
After over 20 years of using nothing but Logitech for keyboards and mice,
I've
given up on them. I currently have three Logitech mice, one of which I just
bought a week ago trying to resolve problems, and nothing seems to correct
the
situation, which is jerk movement half the time, to the point I walk away
from
the computer as I can't do much at all. One of the mice is a Bluetooth
connection, the other two use the Logitech unifying receivers.

I do not want to go back to a wired mouse. Can anyone suggest a good quality
wireless mouse that's reliable and doesn't make the cursor jump all over the
screen. Hopefully on that has a small USB receiever that will plug in and be
forgotten. I appreciate any suggestions.

I'm using Windows 7 Professional 64bit.

Thanks.
Don't like cordless mouse because it needs energy on the mouse.
 
J

James Silverton

I, too, recommend a trackball - wired or wireless. I used to get
muscle spasms in my right neck and shoulder, but I finally figured
out that it was due to supporting my right hand to work the mouse.
With a trackball, my hand rests on the trackball, and now no muscle
spasms.

I also recommend a small laptop-size wireless mouse with the
"speed" set high so that just finger movement (as opposed to
whole hand movement) will move the pointer.

*TimDaniels*
I can use a trackball but I'd rather not. I have not suffered any muscle
strain in my use of a wireless mouse but I do find a mouse-pad with a
wrist rest to be be the most comfortable.
 
K

Ken Blake

I, too, recommend a trackball - wired or wireless. I used to get
muscle spasms in my right neck and shoulder, but I finally figured
out that it was due to supporting my right hand to work the mouse.
With a trackball, my hand rests on the trackball, and now no muscle
spasms.

We are all different, and have different likes and dislikes. You and
Leala, and many other people, prefer trackballs. I, and many other
people, prefer mice. I can't stand trackballs. I find them very
uncomfortable and difficult to use.

Someone with a mouse problem might want to try a trackball if he never
has, but to suggest that it will certainly be the perfect solution to
his problem is just silly.
 
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Ken Blake

I'm using a Microsoft Wireless Desktop 3000, a very old and very
obsolete setup that works perfectly with Windows 7 and Windows 8.

The wireless keyboard allows me to swivel my chair sideways and put the
keyboard in my lap and elevate my feet to ease my damaged back.

Yes, I've heard similar answers to my question before. That's
certainly a good reason to use a wireless keyboard/mouse, but most of
us don't have the same problem.

I could wish for longer battery live but Costco sells trays of AA
batteries for a reasonable price so I'm OK with it.

Have you tried rechargeable batteries? Any comment on them?

FWIW, I have a friend who cannot use a wired mouse, his cat sees the
wiggling mouse cord and immediately chomps it! He's tried coating the
cord with various substances such as cayenne pepper to no avail so he's
now on a wireless mouse and his troubles are over. Personally, I'd
find a new home for the cat but he likes the beast....

I'm with you entirely! I'd rather have a mouse cord than a cat any
day. Many years ago we had a cat for a few months. We didn't get
along. He used to sit on the top of the refrigerator and wait for me
to come home from work so he could pounce!
 
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charlie

escreveu na mensagem
After over 20 years of using nothing but Logitech for keyboards and
mice, I've
given up on them. I currently have three Logitech mice, one of which I just
bought a week ago trying to resolve problems, and nothing seems to
correct the
situation, which is jerk movement half the time, to the point I walk
away from
the computer as I can't do much at all. One of the mice is a Bluetooth
connection, the other two use the Logitech unifying receivers.

I do not want to go back to a wired mouse. Can anyone suggest a good
quality
wireless mouse that's reliable and doesn't make the cursor jump all over
the
screen. Hopefully on that has a small USB receiever that will plug in
and be
forgotten. I appreciate any suggestions.

I'm using Windows 7 Professional 64bit.

Thanks.
Don't like cordless mouse because it needs energy on the mouse.
You don't suppose that something else is causing the problem?
I've used Logitech wireless trackballs (M570) for some years on win XP
to Win 8 without the problems you are having.

I don't understand "Don't like cordless mouse because it needs energy
on the mouse"
Generally any wireless device requires a power source.
 
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John Williamson

charlie said:
You don't suppose that something else is causing the problem?
I've used Logitech wireless trackballs (M570) for some years on win XP
to Win 8 without the problems you are having.

I don't understand "Don't like cordless mouse because it needs energy
on the mouse"
Generally any wireless device requires a power source.
I wonder how the poster thinks a wired mouse works? Mechanical
connections to the buttons through the cable?

Unless he's worried about RF energy from the wireless link, in which
case, most of the studies either find no effect, or a very slight
increase in reaction speed and memory, which is, unfortunately, well
within the limits of experimental error.

Incidentally, the attributions seem to be screwed up slightly.
 
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teste

"charlie" escreveu na mensagem
escreveu na mensagem
After over 20 years of using nothing but Logitech for keyboards and
mice, I've
given up on them. I currently have three Logitech mice, one of which I
just
bought a week ago trying to resolve problems, and nothing seems to
correct the
situation, which is jerk movement half the time, to the point I walk
away from
the computer as I can't do much at all. One of the mice is a Bluetooth
connection, the other two use the Logitech unifying receivers.

I do not want to go back to a wired mouse. Can anyone suggest a good
quality
wireless mouse that's reliable and doesn't make the cursor jump all over
the
screen. Hopefully on that has a small USB receiever that will plug in
and be
forgotten. I appreciate any suggestions.

I'm using Windows 7 Professional 64bit.

Thanks.
Don't like cordless mouse because it needs energy on the mouse.
You don't suppose that something else is causing the problem?
I've used Logitech wireless trackballs (M570) for some years on win XP
to Win 8 without the problems you are having.

I don't understand "Don't like cordless mouse because it needs energy
on the mouse"
Generally any wireless device requires a power source.

I mean with wifi mouse you have to change batteries or recharge, wired mouse
stays always on.
 
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Timothy Daniels

Ken Blake said:
[.....]
Someone with a mouse problem might want to try a trackball if he never
has, but to suggest that it will certainly be the perfect solution to
his problem is just silly.

Hmmm. . . . "certainly be the perfect solution"? If I had written that,
I would certainly have been wrong. But . . . I didn't.

*TimDaniels*
 
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XS11E

Ken Blake said:
Have you tried rechargeable batteries? Any comment on them?
I haven't tried rechargeables, I've thought about it but Costco is
close and I get Duracell AAs in packs of 40 so I never get around to
trying rechargeables.... One day very soon I have to make the trek to
Fry's Electronic so I'll see what they have.

Anyone have recommendations as to brand?
I'm with you entirely! I'd rather have a mouse cord than a cat any
day.
I sort of like cats but I'm very allergic so I avoid them.
 
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Timothy Daniels

teste said:
[ ..... ]
I do not want to go back to a wired mouse. Can anyone suggest a good quality
wireless mouse that's reliable and doesn't make the cursor jump all over the
screen. Hopefully on that has a small USB receiever that will plug in and be
forgotten. I appreciate any suggestions.

I'm using Windows 7 Professional 64bit.
I also use Win7 Pro 64-bit - on my Dell workstation and on my Dell laptop -
and my Logitech Wi-Fi trackball and my Dell Bluetooth Traveler mouse move
the pointer smoothly and consistently. Perhaps your wireless card doesn't have
the correct driver, or there may be RF interference from another wireless device
nearby, such as from a Wi-Fi router. With both mice, I really appreciate the
freedom of not having the cord drag over items on my desk and from pulling
back at the wrong times. I'd also get a wireless keyboard if it weren't for the
possible exposure to Wi-Fi snoops.

*TimDaniels*
 
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Buffalo

wrote in message news:[email protected]
After over 20 years of using nothing but Logitech for keyboards and mice,
I've
given up on them. I currently have three Logitech mice, one of which I just
bought a week ago trying to resolve problems, and nothing seems to correct
the
situation, which is jerk movement half the time, to the point I walk away
from
the computer as I can't do much at all. One of the mice is a Bluetooth
connection, the other two use the Logitech unifying receivers.

I do not want to go back to a wired mouse. Can anyone suggest a good
quality
wireless mouse that's reliable and doesn't make the cursor jump all over
the
screen. Hopefully on that has a small USB receiever that will plug in and
be
forgotten. I appreciate any suggestions.

I'm using Windows 7 Professional 64bit.

Thanks.
It shouldn't be jumping unless the batteries are weak or it's contacts are
corroded.
Have you tried uninstalling all mouse drivers (you may have interfering
drivers) and then just installing the drivers needed?
It sounds more like a software problem or another wireless device somewhere
is interfering with it (ie cordless phones, etc).
In task manager, does it show that some program is using most of the ram or
cpu when the problem happens?
Best of luck.
 
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Dominique

(e-mail address removed) écrivait 4ax.com:
After over 20 years of using nothing but Logitech for keyboards and mice, I've
given up on them. I currently have three Logitech mice, one of which I just
bought a week ago trying to resolve problems, and nothing seems to correct the
situation, which is jerk movement half the time, to the point I walk away from
the computer as I can't do much at all. One of the mice is a Bluetooth
connection, the other two use the Logitech unifying receivers.

I do not want to go back to a wired mouse. Can anyone suggest a good quality
wireless mouse that's reliable and doesn't make the cursor jump all over the
screen. Hopefully on that has a small USB receiever that will plug in and be
forgotten. I appreciate any suggestions.

I'm using Windows 7 Professional 64bit.

Thanks.
FWIW, some time ago I had a wired MS optical mouse that began to misbehave
(jumping around the screen like you), I replaced it with an old Logitech
OEM mouse that I had and the problem went away, I guess the MS mouse was
going bad.

The funny part is that MS IntelliPoint was still working with the Logitech
mouse.
 

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