Good idea.

J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]>, BillW50 <[email protected]>
writes:
[]
I don't know anything about that. But being a diabetic, I have nerve
damage called diabetic neuropathy. Which I am well aware of the pain,
tingling, and numbness feeling (usually just one or two of them at the
same time). Mostly feet and lower legs. Not too often in my hands. And
what is RSI anyway?
[]
Repetitive Strain Injury - temporary or permanent damage to body parts
due to an oft-repeated action. Like dyslexia, RSI is a genuine medical
problem that at one time got a bad reputation because it was used as an
excuse for things by people who didn't really have it (or their parents,
employers, unions, etcetera).

(Though most commonly associated with office work, RSI occurs in all
walks of life: I think the tingling experienced by operators of road
drills and the like is related to it.)
 
G

Gene Wirchenko

When my hand hurts from too much mouse use I stuff an empty Mortein
can into a sock and use it for wrist support. But here's an even
better idea...
http://www.damnlol.com/i/a7b09b438de9d1c7c0827df13a34e467.jpg
Presumably non-lubricated to avoid a mess?

"What size do you want, sonny?"
"The largest you have. It's for my wrist."
???

On a less frivolous note, when I use a mouse:

My wrist is flat on the desk. I hold the mouse by the side using
my thumb, index, and pinkie fingers. The palm of my hand rests on the
mouse. My other two fingers are positioned over the buttons. I hit
the mouse buttons with my fingers at about the first joint back, *not*
with my fingertips.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
 
P

Peter Jason

Presumably non-lubricated to avoid a mess?

"What size do you want, sonny?"
"The largest you have. It's for my wrist."
???

On a less frivolous note, when I use a mouse:

My wrist is flat on the desk. I hold the mouse by the side using
my thumb, index, and pinkie fingers. The palm of my hand rests on the
mouse. My other two fingers are positioned over the buttons. I hit
the mouse buttons with my fingers at about the first joint back, *not*
with my fingertips.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
This is the first time I've read this. Definitely worth a try.
 
T

Thip

Gene Wirchenko said:
On a less frivolous note, when I use a mouse:

My wrist is flat on the desk. I hold the mouse by the side using
my thumb, index, and pinkie fingers. The palm of my hand rests on the
mouse. My other two fingers are positioned over the buttons. I hit
the mouse buttons with my fingers at about the first joint back, *not*
with my fingertips.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
Same here. I can't imagine using a mouse any other way. I've never, ever
had any kind of fatigue or pain.
 
C

choro

Same here. I can't imagine using a mouse any other way. I've never, ever
had any kind of fatigue or pain.
Depends of the length of time you spend in front of the computer,
doesn't it? But the secret of avoiding RSI etc and associated aches and
pains is...

stiffen/destiffen ALTERNATELY! If you don't relax it after a *hard-on*
you will get problems with aches and pains! Some people never relax
their muscles when fooling around with either the mouse or their dicks!

This is something musicians learn to do instinctively otherwise they
would end up with stiff fingers that would stop them getting stiff in
the right places! ;-)
-- choro
 
G

Gene Wirchenko

Same here. I can't imagine using a mouse any other way. I've never, ever
had any kind of fatigue or pain.
I have on occasion. It is like getting out of breath from
running too long. Stop running.

Tip #2: I am left-handed. I use a mouse with my right hand. It
is convenient. I can make notes while viewing a Web page or other
mouse-controlled window. Why do right-handers use mousies with their
right hands?

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
 
W

Wolf K

On 02/04/2012 1:03 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
[...]
Tip #2: I am left-handed. I use a mouse with my right hand. It
is convenient. I can make notes while viewing a Web page or other
mouse-controlled window. Why do right-handers use mousies with their
right hands?

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
Because they aren't as ambidextrous as lefties.

Wolf K.
 
A

Asger Joergensen

Hi Wolf

Wolf said:
On 02/04/2012 1:03 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
[...]
Tip #2: I am left-handed. I use a mouse with my right hand. It
is convenient. I can make notes while viewing a Web page or other
mouse-controlled window. Why do right-handers use mousies with their
right hands?

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
Because they aren't as ambidextrous as lefties.
It's just a matter of training and it is great to have the good hand
free for challenging tasks.
 
G

Gene Wirchenko

On 02/04/2012 1:03 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
[...]
Tip #2: I am left-handed. I use a mouse with my right hand. It
is convenient. I can make notes while viewing a Web page or other
mouse-controlled window. Why do right-handers use mousies with their
right hands?
Because they aren't as ambidextrous as lefties.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think you have a word to look up. If I were ambidextrous, then
I would not be a left-hander.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

Gene Wirchenko said:
On 02/04/2012 1:03 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
[...]
Tip #2: I am left-handed. I use a mouse with my right hand. It
is convenient. I can make notes while viewing a Web page or other
mouse-controlled window. Why do right-handers use mousies with their
right hands?
Because they aren't as ambidextrous as lefties.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think you have a word to look up. If I were ambidextrous, then
I would not be a left-hander.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
I had no trouble understanding what he meant: one can have different
degrees of ambisinistrality. We lefties, usually of necessity, have more
than most righties.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

On 02/04/2012 1:03 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
[...]
Tip #2: I am left-handed. I use a mouse with my right hand. It
is convenient. I can make notes while viewing a Web page or other
mouse-controlled window. Why do right-handers use mousies with their
right hands?
Because they aren't as ambidextrous as lefties.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think you have a word to look up. If I were ambidextrous, then
I would not be a left-hander.
From the American Heritage Dictionary, 5th Edition

Ambidextrous, adj.
1. Able to use both hands with equal dexterity
2. Unusually skillful; adroit
3. Deceptive or hypocritical

Thus saving *you* the trouble of looking it up.

Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary gives semantically identical
definitions.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Gene Wirchenko said:
On 02/04/2012 1:03 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
[...]
Tip #2: I am left-handed. I use a mouse with my right hand. It
is convenient. I can make notes while viewing a Web page or other
mouse-controlled window. Why do right-handers use mousies with their
right hands?
Because they aren't as ambidextrous as lefties.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think you have a word to look up. If I were ambidextrous, then
I would not be a left-hander.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
I had no trouble understanding what he meant: one can have different degrees
of ambisinistrality. We lefties, usually of necessity, have more than most
righties.
I like your coinage :)

I am a bit ambidextrous, maybe in part because my brother is a
southpaw, although over the years it has faded. I bat (and would golf)
left-handed, I deal cards left handed (I am told), and my father, when
boxing with me, always said my stance was left-handed. I also use my
left eye on camera viewfinders and other optical instruments, but I
have no idea if that is sinistral.

Although looking at my typing above before I corrected it, perhaps I
should characterize myself as ambiclumsy.
 
W

Wolf K

On 02/04/2012 4:41 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
[...]
Although looking at my typing above before I corrected it, perhaps I
should characterize myself as ambiclumsy.

Good one.

Wolf K.
 
W

Wolf K

On 02/04/2012 1:03 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
[...]
Tip #2: I am left-handed. I use a mouse with my right hand. It
is convenient. I can make notes while viewing a Web page or other
mouse-controlled window. Why do right-handers use mousies with their
right hands?
Because they aren't as ambidextrous as lefties.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think you have a word to look up. If I were ambidextrous, then
I would not be a left-hander.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Everybody is somewhat ambidextrous, ie can do some things with either
hand (though not usually equally well). But for some reason left handers
are generally more so.

Wolf K.
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

Gene E. Bloch said:
On 4/02/2012, J. P. Gilliver (John) posted: []
I had no trouble understanding what he meant: one can have different
degrees of ambisinistrality. We lefties, usually of necessity, have
more than most righties.
I like your coinage :)
Thanks. (Though I don't _think_ I actually invented it.)
[]
Although looking at my typing above before I corrected it, perhaps I
should characterize myself as ambiclumsy.
But I _do_ like that one (-:!
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove
that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are
right. -H.L. Mencken, writer, editor, and critic (1880-1956)
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]>, Wolf K
Everybody is somewhat ambidextrous, ie can do some things with either
hand (though not usually equally well). But for some reason left
handers are generally more so.

Wolf K.
Some of them (us) like to think and/or claim that it's because they/we
are superior in some way; the more prosaic reason is that we _have_ to
become so, as it's a somewhat rightist world; little more to it than
that.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove
that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are
right. -H.L. Mencken, writer, editor, and critic (1880-1956)
 
G

Gene Wirchenko

On 02/04/2012 1:03 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
[...]
Tip #2: I am left-handed. I use a mouse with my right hand. It
is convenient. I can make notes while viewing a Web page or other
mouse-controlled window. Why do right-handers use mousies with their
right hands?
Because they aren't as ambidextrous as lefties.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think you have a word to look up. If I were ambidextrous, then
I would not be a left-hander.
From the American Heritage Dictionary, 5th Edition

Ambidextrous, adj.
1. Able to use both hands with equal dexterity
The obvious context is using this definition. I would not be a
lefty then.
2. Unusually skillful; adroit
This is an undeserved compliment.
3. Deceptive or hypocritical
This is an undeserved insult.
Thus saving *you* the trouble of looking it up.

Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary gives semantically identical
definitions.
Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
 
C

Char Jackson

I am a bit ambidextrous, maybe in part because my brother is a
southpaw, although over the years it has faded. I bat (and would golf)
left-handed, I deal cards left handed (I am told), and my father, when
boxing with me, always said my stance was left-handed. I also use my
left eye on camera viewfinders and other optical instruments, but I
have no idea if that is sinistral.
That last item might have something to do with which of your eyes is
dominant, no?

I'm right-handed, but my left eye is dominant.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 13:41:34 -0700, Gene E. Bloch
That last item might have something to do with which of your eyes is
dominant, no?
I'm right-handed, but my left eye is dominant.
Agreed.

Basically, I was just wondering or speculating out loud whether there's
a relationship or correlation 'twixt the two.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Gene E. Bloch said:
On 4/02/2012, J. P. Gilliver (John) posted: []
I had no trouble understanding what he meant: one can have different
degrees of ambisinistrality. We lefties, usually of necessity, have more
than most righties.
I like your coinage :)
Thanks. (Though I don't _think_ I actually invented it.)
I did look in a dictionary before commenting. It wasn't there, but of
course that's not conclusive, since it wan't the OED.

So I went there (Compact Edition of OED1).

I found ambisinistrous, defined as ambilævous[1], which in turn is
defined as "left handed on both sides, as it were".

Geez - it's gotten hard to read the compact edition even with the
magnifying glass :)

[1] ambilaevous, if your character set is defective :)
[]
Although looking at my typing above before I corrected it, perhaps I should
characterize myself as ambiclumsy.
But I _do_ like that one (-:!
 

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