wtf? is chewing up space?

[s|b]

Advanced Uninstaller Pro does a slightly better job with 64-bit, unless
Revo's now offering a freeware version. Last I checked, only the 32-bit
version was free.

http://www.advanceduninstaller.com/

The OP already uninstalled. What's the point of installing an
"uninstaller" ?

 

[jetjock]

well I found the answer.
I ran tree size and it showed me instantly what the cause was.
I had installed the latest version of Google Earth in the past two weeks.
Are you sitting down? Not eating or drinking anything?
The latest version of Google Earth now demands it MUST take up 133.5 gigs
of space on YOUR hard drive.
Yup. So I uninstalled it. Did that free up the space?
Nope.
According to tree size, the problem remained.
So I had to manually locate the folder and delete all the remaining crap.
Now I am back in business and in control.

I'm going to reinstall google earth and see if it happens again.
If it does, it will be trashed permanently.

RE: your problem with leftover files from Google Earth. I use two
programs that will prevent that from happening.

The first is a very small, free program called CleanIt which I place
in my start menu to run at start-up. It will totally remove ALL files
left in your TEMP folder by program installers. Google Earth leaves
over 1000 files in my TEMP folder after every install.
http://cleanit.soft32.com/

The second is Revo Uninstaller. I use the Pro version, but there is a
free version also. This program will remove any files left behind by a
program's uninstaller. Just remember NOT to restart your computer when
asked by the uninstaller until AFTER you have run the "Scan" feature
of Revo to remove all traces of the removed program from your
registry.
http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninstaller_free_download.html

 

[Paul]

Probably just a stupid bug somewhere. Maybe it wasn't watching the total
directory size since it now uses a zillion little files instead of just
one big one. The fix was just for Windows, so it may be how they were
accessing size data compared to Linux or Mac.

The 7.1 version is actually a beta and I got it via FileHippo. I'm not
certain what the normal Google download will get you, as it's just one
of those stubs that downloads the full thing. You never know what
version you will get. The file properties of the installer don't say
what version of GE it is, just the version of the installer itself.

The symptoms of the problem are described here a bit.

http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/earth/vJcVK2M9g7U

"After a first full disk with 470,000 files of 2kb and a
manual cache clearing, I got 9,000,000 of empty sst files"

Apparently, even if you exit Google Earth, when that bug was
present, some part of the software continued to run. It's hard to
believe the directory is filled solely from downloads. Nobody
seems to analyze that part of it, and determine if it is physically
possible for every byte in that folder, to have been downloaded.

Paul

 

[mick]

He already uninstalled Google Earth, so I don't think Revo Uninstaller
will do any good. Also, Revo can't uninstall 64-bit software (I don't
know if Google Earth can do 64-bit and I can't be bothered to look it
up).

lets clarify that:
Revo Uninstaller free version is for 32bit
Revo Uninstaller Pro version is for 32bit and 64bit

 

[s|b]

lets clarify that:
Revo Uninstaller free version is for 32bit
Revo Uninstaller Pro version is for 32bit and 64bit

I only paid for W7 HP x64 SP1 OEM, Nero Essentials 7 OEM and Forté
Agent. All other software I use is freeware, hence my mistake in not
including payware. Apologies. Anyway, there's still no point in Revo
Uninstaller if the OP has already uninstalled. (I know, he reinstalled,
so he may have use for it if he decides to uninstall... again .

 

[mick]

I only paid for W7 HP x64 SP1 OEM, Nero Essentials 7 OEM and Forté
Agent. All other software I use is freeware, hence my mistake in not
including payware. Apologies. Anyway, there's still no point in Revo
Uninstaller if the OP has already uninstalled. (I know, he reinstalled,
so he may have use for it if he decides to uninstall... again .

I'm with you on using freeware. Occasionally it can be better than
similar branded payware. I have a few programs that have been very
good as freeware that I have donated something to the developer or in
the case of Revo, Allway Sync and MediaMonkey, I bought the Pro
versions.

 

[Thip]

The OP already uninstalled. What's the point of installing an
"uninstaller" ?

I was replying to Bruce Hagen's post.

 

[Bruce Hagen]

Advanced Uninstaller Pro does a slightly better job with 64-bit, unless
Revo's now offering a freeware version. Last I checked, only the 32-bit
version was free.

http://www.advanceduninstaller.com/

The freeware version is only for 32-bit, but that is 32-bit *programs*, not
operating systems. Since most programs installed on a 64-bit machine are
still 32-bit, it works for them just fine.

The Pro version and probably Advanced Uninstaller Pro as you mention would
surely be better for any 64-bit program.

 

[Wolf K]

On 5/11/2013 5:57 PM, Bruce Hagen wrote:
[re: Revo Uninstaller]

The freeware version is only for 32-bit, but that is 32-bit *programs*,
not operating systems. Since most programs installed on a 64-bit machine
are still 32-bit, it works for them just fine.

The Pro version and probably Advanced Uninstaller Pro as you mention
would surely be better for any 64-bit program.

The uninstaller uses the program's Uninstall, then searches the
registry and the HDD for related bits and pieces, which it deletes.
Whether the program was written as 32-bit or 64-bit makes no difference.

In my experience, Revo usually does a 100% job, but it can't delete
locked files, so you'll have to eliminate those manually. You'll have to
reboot so that these files aren't locked (they are locked when the
registry is read during boot, and/or when the program is run).

HTH

 

[Ashton Crusher]

C:users\{name}\appdata\locallow\google\google earth

Just looked at mine. My whole google earth directory is 667 megs.

 

[Ashton Crusher]

I've still got Google Earth version 6 (6.1.0.5001, Build Date
10/17/2011) installed. I only use it about once a month.
My folder is 650MB.
I'd like to update, but your experience has put me off. Thanks for that.
As to whether that happens to everyone or not, perhaps others with the
latest version 7 could let us know.

Ed

Mines about 667 megs and...


Google Earth
7.0.3.8542
Build Date
2/26/2013
Build Time
5:21:18 pm
Renderer
DirectX
Operating System
Microsoft Windows (6.1.7601.1)
Video Driver
Google Inc. (00009.00018.00013.01090)
Max Texture Size
8192x8192
available video memory
4050 MB
Server
kh.google.com

 

[Ant]

well I found the answer.
I ran tree size and it showed me instantly what the cause was.
I had installed the latest version of Google Earth in the past two weeks.
Are you sitting down? Not eating or drinking anything?
The latest version of Google Earth now demands it MUST take up 133.5 gigs
of space on YOUR hard drive.
Yup. So I uninstalled it. Did that free up the space?
Nope.
According to tree size, the problem remained.
So I had to manually locate the folder and delete all the remaining crap.
Now I am back in business and in control.

I'm going to reinstall google earth and see if it happens again.
If it does, it will be trashed permanently.

Wow. I am still on v6.2.1.6014 (beta) on my very old Windows XP Pro. SP3
machine and I can set cache sizes. Does v7 not have this anymore?
--
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/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site)
/ /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net
| |o o| |
\ _ / If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link.
( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed.
Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer.

 

[s|b]

I was replying to Bruce Hagen's post.

And my follow-up was meant for you...

 

[Ed Cryer]

well I found the answer.
I ran tree size and it showed me instantly what the cause was.
I had installed the latest version of Google Earth in the past two weeks.
Are you sitting down? Not eating or drinking anything?
The latest version of Google Earth now demands it MUST take up 133.5 gigs
of space on YOUR hard drive.
Yup. So I uninstalled it. Did that free up the space?
Nope.
According to tree size, the problem remained.
So I had to manually locate the folder and delete all the remaining crap.
Now I am back in business and in control.

I'm going to reinstall google earth and see if it happens again.
If it does, it will be trashed permanently.

Two things to do in Google earth; both under Tools/options;
1. General tab; Send usage stats to Google - untick.
2. Cache tab; Choose what you want for sizes.

In addition go to Windows' Admin Services, and disable the Google
updater service.

Thank you. Have a nice day.

Ed

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

And my follow-up was meant for you...

To answer your "what's the point..." question...

1. The OP might actually want to uninstall a different program someday.

2. The OP might happen to know that a good way to clean up an
uninstalled program is to reinstall it and then use a more potent
uninstaller.

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

No. When the program's own uninstaller finishes, Revo just looks through
the registry and the file system looking for things it recognizes as
belonging to the program that was just uninstalled (but only if you
allow it to - it's a preference).

But how does it do that "recognising"?
[]

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

On 5/11/2013 5:57 PM, Bruce Hagen wrote:
[re: Revo Uninstaller]

The freeware version is only for 32-bit, but that is 32-bit *programs*,
not operating systems. Since most programs installed on a 64-bit machine
are still 32-bit, it works for them just fine.

The Pro version and probably Advanced Uninstaller Pro as you mention
would surely be better for any 64-bit program.

The uninstaller uses the program's Uninstall, then searches the
registry and the HDD for related bits and pieces, which it deletes.
Whether the program was written as 32-bit or 64-bit makes no difference.

But how does it know what's "related"?

 

[Wolf K]

No. When the program's own uninstaller finishes, Revo just looks through
the registry and the file system looking for things it recognizes as
belonging to the program that was just uninstalled (but only if you
allow it to - it's a preference).

But how does it do that "recognising"?
[]

Well, to judge from results, it looks for the folder(s) and registry
keys with the program's name. Basically, it runs an automated regedit.
So far, it has not caused any unexpected glitches. It sometimes does
leave stuff, which AFAICT were locked files. At any rate, they can be
removed after a reboot.

The Pro version (payware) also remove leftovers from previously
uninstalled programs.


Best,
Wolf K
kirkwood40.blogspot.ca

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Sat, 11 May 2013 11:47:57 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

What has been puzzling me for some time, is how Revo - or any similar,
but this one seems to get the most praise - _knows_ what it can and
can't remove. Short of doing a reinstall and monitoring it, so that it
knows for sure what files go with what (and even then not proof against
the case where an installation _replaces_ files), I can't see how it
can.

No. When the program's own uninstaller finishes, Revo just looks through
the registry and the file system looking for things it recognizes as
belonging to the program that was just uninstalled (but only if you
allow it to - it's a preference).

But how does it do that "recognising"?
[]

Well, to judge from results, it looks for the folder(s) and registry
keys with the program's name. Basically, it runs an automated regedit.
So far, it has not caused any unexpected glitches. It sometimes does
leave stuff, which AFAICT were locked files. At any rate, they can be
removed after a reboot.

+1

Your first two sentences are exactly what I was planning to say

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <[email protected]>, Gene E. Bloch
On Sat, 11 May 2013 11:47:57 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

What has been puzzling me for some time, is how Revo - or any similar,
but this one seems to get the most praise - _knows_ what it can and
can't remove. Short of doing a reinstall and monitoring it, so that it []
No. When the program's own uninstaller finishes, Revo just looks through
the registry and the file system looking for things it recognizes as []
But how does it do that "recognising"?

[]
Well, to judge from results, it looks for the folder(s) and registry
keys with the program's name. Basically, it runs an automated regedit.

Ah, so it can only run being given a name. (IME, some softwares put
things - both registry entries and folders - under the name of the
software house, sometimes without the name of the actual prog. - and of
course sometimes under names that contain neither of those.)
[]

+1

Your first two sentences are exactly what I was planning to say

[]
The same question: how does it know what it can remove? (Just by hoping
there are name connections?)
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