windoze 7 and thunderbird


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Dave

Is there a conflict between them. Friend has a new computer and outlook
depressed will not go on line for him. I suggested thunder bird, but his
wife has said that there is an incompatibility problem between the two.

Dave
 
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Big Steel

Is there a conflict between them. Friend has a new computer and outlook
depressed will not go on line for him. I suggested thunder bird, but his
wife has said that there is an incompatibility problem between the two.
That's called Windows not Windoze. You have a lot of nerve with the
insult in a Windows NG. And you're seeking help?

And I have no issues using TB on my Windows 7 machine as a NG reader or
POP3 and SMTP either.
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Dave said:
Is there a conflict between them. Friend has a new computer and outlook
depressed will not go on line for him. I suggested thunder bird, but his
wife has said that there is an incompatibility problem between the two.

Dave

T-Bird works fine on my Win7. If Outlook Depressed is a reference to
Outlook Express, it was last used in XP. Win7 has no "built-in" e-mail
program.

OE can be used in XP mode if it is Pro, Enterprise or Ultimate.

How to use Outlook Express in Windows 7
http://www.oehelp.com/OEnWin7.aspx
 
M

Miles

* Big Steel wrote, On 08-Sep-11 12:34:
That's called Windows not Windoze. You have a lot of nerve with the
insult in a Windows NG. And you're seeking help?

And I have no issues using TB on my Windows 7 machine as a NG reader or
POP3 and SMTP either.
And I might add that I also use it for RSS feeds which also work fine.
Thunderbird is a winner!! Used for POP3 with Win7, 64. Don't know
a thing as to Outlook as I shunned away from that horrible program
back in the 90's and went over to Netscape (which later became TB &
Firefox -- or the combo version - SeaMonkey).
Miles
 
P

Paul

Dave said:
Is there a conflict between them. Friend has a new computer and outlook
depressed will not go on line for him. I suggested thunder bird, but his
wife has said that there is an incompatibility problem between the two.

Dave
With backups, you can test any theory you want :)

The very first thing to teach a user, is how to make backups. With
a good backup strategy, you can make as many mistakes as you want.
Any time you have "doubts" about how some computer procedure is
going to work out, a good backup strategy can fix it for you.

I don't see a reason for Thunderbird to conflict with anything. And
if the new computer has a 64 bit OS, it does have the ability to run
either 64 bit or 32 bit programs. The only thing Windows 7 64 bit version
lacks, is the ability to run older 16 bit programs (like, from ten years
ago).

If you're trying to *import* messages from one mail tool to another,
that's a different set of problems. Some schemes, rely on interprocess
communications, to "pull" messages one at a time, from one program to
the other. That would not be necessary, if the importing program could
just "read" the database the other program has created. Or, if the
original program could "export" in a standard way, so that another
program could "import" the resulting data, that would be another
way to do it. I know, when we did an email transition at work,
which involved a lot of this stuff, it took *months* of testing
to ensure the transition would go smoothly. Each user was responsible
for their own importing, but I'm sure the IT staff tested the tools
on the various representations of mail first, to make sure it works.
(They would have access to all backup images of computers, so they
could in fact test that importing worked with anyone's database content.)
I didn't have any users with problems in my department when we
went through it. But based on threads discussing this stuff in
the past, it requires great care to avoid collateral damage.

I remember one fellow employee, who had a mail database that
had never been tidied. He complained that his "mail was slow"
and "could I take a look". It appeared nobody had explained
the importance of tiding to remove deleted messages, and
the database in that case, had around 5000 untidied messages
(messages deleted but not physically removed from the database).
It's that kind of user, where you'd expect other kinds of
email maintenance, to be problematic. If there is any malformation
in a mess like that, just about anything could happen... That
particular proprietary email tool, relied on the user issuing
the "tidy" command, to trim the database. There was no automated
feature to trigger a cleanup automatically (to leave more
possibilities for "undelete"). The email tool in that case,
was written in-house, and was the one being eliminated.

Paul
 
A

arnold

Is there a conflict between them. Friend has a new computer and outlook
depressed will not go on line for him. I suggested thunder bird, but his
wife has said that there is an incompatibility problem between the two.

Dave
I use T-Bird on Windows7 32 bit without a problem. I also use T-Bird on a
Linux HD. It is an excellent application that simply works.
 
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Gordon

That's called Windows not Windoze. You have a lot of nerve with the
insult in a Windows NG.
Pot kettle and black spring to mind? Never insulted Linux in COLA or don't
you understand the word "hypocrite"?
 
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Big Steel

Pot kettle and black spring to mind? Never insulted Linux in COLA or don't
you understand the word "hypocrite"?
You dumbass clown you show where I called Linux anything else other than
Linux you cock-sucker preacher man.
 
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Big Steel

On 9/8/2011 4:38 PM, Gordon wrote:

<snipped>

One other thing here cock-sucking preacher man, I bash people not
product you cock-sucking preacher man.
 
B

Big Steel

On 9/8/2011 4:38 PM, Gordon wrote:

<snipped>

One more thing here cock-sucking preacher man, I can sure as hell show
your two-faced butt over there in COLA.

You ass-kissing COLA clowns while you sit over there with a grin on your
face ear to ear stabbing Windows users in the back talking about them
like they are dumb monkeys over there in COLA.

You sit here in the Windows NG like a snake in the grass with a smile on
your face ear to ear fooling these people like you are a big man in the
NG cock-sucking preacher man.
 
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Stan Brown

The very first thing to teach a user, is how to make backups. With
a good backup strategy, you can make as many mistakes as you want.
Any time you have "doubts" about how some computer procedure is
going to work out, a good backup strategy can fix it for you.
Well, maybe.

For trying out something possibly dangerous, I'd argue that a virtual
machine is an even better idea, and these days there are two
serviceable free choices (that I know of).
 
C

Char Jackson

Well, maybe.

For trying out something possibly dangerous, I'd argue that a virtual
machine is an even better idea, and these days there are two
serviceable free choices (that I know of).
I spent about 40 minutes a few evenings ago trying to explain the
concept of Libraries in Win 7 to a customer, and in the end she still
didn't get it. It makes my head hurt to think what her reaction would
be if she and I had a discussion about VM's. :)
 
M

Miles

* Char Jackson wrote, On 08-Sep-11 15:44:
I spent about 40 minutes a few evenings ago trying to explain the
concept of Libraries in Win 7 to a customer, and in the end she still
didn't get it. It makes my head hurt to think what her reaction would
be if she and I had a discussion about VM's. :)
I might interject here that it pays to keep the TB inbox low. Below
Inbox and the other obligatory folders I have a massive one called
Kept Mail. There I of course, move all kept mail and have been doing
so forever, and one of these years will get around to cleaning it up.

However, in the meantime I do clean the cache and memory plus clean
out the folders with a neat little extension called Expunge. In fact,
will be doing that right now prior to upgrading to 6.x
Miles
 
N

Nil

Is there a conflict between them. Friend has a new computer and
outlook depressed will not go on line for him. I suggested thunder
bird, but his wife has said that there is an incompatibility
problem between the two.
I'd usually immediately disregard your question due to your childish
and meaningless attempted insult. But, hey, you're lucky - I'm bored
and have extra time, and I know the answer, so you will be the
fortunate recipient of my vast knowledge of Microsoft Windows:

No, there is no such conflict or incompatibility.

You may now kiss my ring.
 
R

Roy Smith

Miles said:
* Char Jackson wrote, On 08-Sep-11 15:44:

I might interject here that it pays to keep the TB inbox low. Below
Inbox and the other obligatory folders I have a massive one called Kept
Mail. There I of course, move all kept mail and have been doing so
forever, and one of these years will get around to cleaning it up.

However, in the meantime I do clean the cache and memory plus clean out
the folders with a neat little extension called Expunge. In fact, will
be doing that right now prior to upgrading to 6.x
You can also right-click on each folder and choose Properties -
Retention Policy where you can then specify how long a message would
stay in that folder. You can keep the last X number of days, X number
of messages, not to delete and messages or use the server defaults.

--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Postbox 2.5.2
Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:06:21 PM
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

Stan Brown said:
Well, maybe.

For trying out something possibly dangerous, I'd argue that a virtual
machine is an even better idea, and these days there are two
serviceable free choices (that I know of).
Don't they need a - not free - operating system, though? (Well, some are
free, but not the one I'm presuming the software you want to try runs
under, based on the name of this 'group.)
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

Nil said:
I'd usually immediately disregard your question due to your childish
and meaningless attempted insult. But, hey, you're lucky - I'm bored
Wow, some people seem very sensitive!
and have extra time, and I know the answer, so you will be the
fortunate recipient of my vast knowledge of Microsoft Windows:

No, there is no such conflict or incompatibility.
Ditto.

You may now kiss my ring.
(-:
 
G

Gordon

I'd usually immediately disregard your question due to your childish
and meaningless attempted insult. But, hey, you're lucky - I'm bored
and have extra time, and I know the answer, so you will be the
fortunate recipient of my vast knowledge of Microsoft Windows:

No, there is no such conflict or incompatibility.

You may now kiss my ring.
How can you insult an "object"?
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Don't they need a - not free - operating system, though? (Well, some are
free, but not the one I'm presuming the software you want to try runs
under, based on the name of this 'group.)
Yes, for the non-MS products.

I was fortunate in that I had a legitimate XP that had never been
used...

For Windows 7 Pro and several other high-end systems, the free
downloadable XP Mode includes a license.

I bought Pro when I built this machine, only to find the XP Mode not
working well for me. I am now using the VMWare Player and the paid-for
XP...
 

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