SSD Drives - Why so small in size?

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per Jason:

What do you do about Win 7's tendency to put all the User
loca/roaming/remote folders in C: ? There are pretty safe, standard
ways to move *some* of that to another partition, but far from all (at
least that I've discovered.)

I don't know enough to know what "local/roaming/remote" folders
are, so I cannot cite an example.

For something that just had to be on C:\, I would write a an
automated backup job to copy it to a "Backup Stage" folder on the
NAS box - which would then get backed up with everything else...
and also document it in a spreadsheet or text doc so I would know
to restore it when re-imaging.

But I've re-imaged quite a few times when I had a teenager
banging on my PC several hours a day and never seemed to miss
anything except for Internet cookies (especially IDs/PWs) - which
I probably should back up or move to a "Data" drive... but don't.

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per Char Jackson:

EBay would *not* be my first choice for hardware. Try Newegg, or perhaps
even Amazon or buy.com.

I burned myself when I bought a half-dozen drives for my NAS box
on eBay.

When one of them failed, I found out that it was sold under some
category (OEM?) that Seagate would not warranty.

Now I buy from NewEgg or B&H Photo rather than going for the last
dollar in price diffs.

 

[Rene Lamontagne]

EBay would *not* be my first choice for hardware. Try Newegg, or perhaps
even Amazon or buy.com.

Agreed, I would not buy anything on E-bay, far less computer parts.

Regards, Rene

 

[charlie]

That's it; that's the one that spells the end of HDs. It'll probably
take a few years but I think it looks inevitable now.

And, of course, the price will drop rapidly as manufacturers tool up for
mass production, with all the relevant sales and delivery mechanisms
becoming better and cheaper.

Ed

Much better in price for size.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147190 (500G)

Setting up an SSD drive can be somewhat of a pain on an existing system.

1. make sure that the new SSD has up to date firmware, and update if needed.
(This is not always as simple as it sounds. The system SATA I/O drivers
may need to be reverted to the MS windows drivers to update the SSD
firmware, then changed back to the OEM drivers. (I had to do this with
both AMD and Intel drivers.)

2. Many of the existing systems have a HD that is larger than the SSD to
be installed. This causes problems, since transferring the ops system
etc. to the SSD with built in windows software does not like going to a
smaller drive/partition. 3D party utilities are usually needed.

3. Getting "Trim" up and working on older windows versions.

4. Changing the page file location to other than the SSD (Optional with
the newer SSDs)

5. Moving temp file storage to other than the SSD.

6. Turning off such things as Defrag that are not appropriate for an SSD
drive.

7. Moving applications from C: to other than the SSD. Some Apps aren't a
problem, others use a lot of temporary files and storage.

 

[Ken Blake]

I am using a 128 GB SSD on this laptop for windows 7 and all my data and I
still have 80 GB's of free space.

That's great for you, but you have much less data than most of us
have.

Keep all my data backed up on a separate
usb drive.

Good!

 

[Ken Blake]

EBay would *not* be my first choice for hardware. Try Newegg, or perhaps
even Amazon or buy.com.

I'm with you entirely. EBay might have better prices, but the price is
not the only thing to consider when making a choice.

 

[Ken Blake]

Here is a 1TB SSD, for $2,549.99 USD.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227797

Bill Gates probably owns one of those.

One? Just one?

 

[s|b]

Same here, my Win dir takes up dick.

http://www.gypsy-designs.com/1.jpg

| 404: Page not found
| This error is generated when there was no web page with the name you specified at the web site.
|
| Troubleshooting suggestions:
|
| Ensure the page you are linking to exists in the correct folder.
|
| Check your file name for case sensitivity . Index.htm is not the same as index.htm!
|
| Temporarily disable any rewrite rules by renaming your .htaccess file if it exists.

 

[s|b]

What do you do about Win 7's tendency to put all the User
loca/roaming/remote folders in C: ? There are pretty safe, standard
ways to move *some* of that to another partition, but far from all (at
least that I've discovered.)

I leave those alone. But I have moved some Users-folders to another hdd:

Downloads
My Documents
My Pictures
My Music
My Video

I could be wrong, but I don't think there is much movement in
Local/Roaming/...

 

[s|b]

Agreed, I would not buy anything on E-bay, far less computer parts.

It's not a computer part, but in July 2012, I bought a SanDisk flash
drive from eBay. It was a registered shop or something ("Registered as a
business seller"). It came from Hong Kong, costed about 58 euro (can't
find them here at this price, in fact, I can't find it here at all) and
within a few days it arrived.

SanDisk Extreme® USB 3.0 Flash Drive
64 GB
<http://www.sandisk.com/products/usb/drives/extreme/>

<http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SanDisk-E...4-G-GB-Life-Time-Warranty-CZ80-/230805643836?>

I've been using the flash drive almost daily and it still works. It
tested upload/download speed and it is definitely USB 3.0. I'm a happy
camper...

 

[s|b]

One? Just one?

Should be enough for everyone...

 

[Mike Barnes]

I leave those alone. But I have moved some Users-folders to another hdd:

Downloads
My Documents
My Pictures
My Music
My Video

I could be wrong, but I don't think there is much movement in
Local/Roaming/...

My big peeve is the AppData folder. That should hold my personal data
and little else. In reality there's 3.3GB of crap that certainly is not
my personal data. As far as I can see it's mainly program data and
caches, which should be elsewhere. That's 3.3GB that I have to back up
in order to save the tiny amount of actual personal data in there.

 

[gufus]

Hello, s|b!

|> 404: Page not found

The file is "gone" now. I deleted it.

It was just a pie graph of my windows dir showing how much space it was
using.

--
-gufus
Thou Shalt NOT excessively annoy others or
allow Thyself to become excessively annoyed

Message-ID: [email protected] Sent at 13:34

 

[s|b]

My big peeve is the AppData folder. That should hold my personal data
and little else. In reality there's 3.3GB of crap that certainly is not
my personal data. As far as I can see it's mainly program data and
caches, which should be elsewhere. That's 3.3GB that I have to back up
in order to save the tiny amount of actual personal data in there.

My AppData folder is 721,68 MiB.

 

[Yousuf Khan]

What do you do about Win 7's tendency to put all the User
loca/roaming/remote folders in C: ? There are pretty safe, standard
ways to move *some* of that to another partition, but far from all (at
least that I've discovered.)

There are ways to move some of these folders to alternative drives by
using Windows' built-in logical linking system. Using logical links
(such as directory junctions, symbolic links, and hard links), you can
make a file or folder look like it's in two or more places at the same
time, without actually having to copy them to both places. So some of
the really large appdata folders you can put on an alternative drive,
and create a symlink to that folder from one drive to the other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_symbolic_link

Yousuf Khan

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Per Char Jackson:

I burned myself when I bought a half-dozen drives for my NAS box
on eBay.

When one of them failed, I found out that it was sold under some
category (OEM?) that Seagate would not warranty.

Now I buy from NewEgg or B&H Photo rather than going for the last
dollar in price diffs.

Where was the vendor of your failing drive - in your country?

Under UK law, your contract is with the seller, not the manufacturer, so
the seller would be responsible for replacing, not Seagate, at least if
the seller was in UK. I don't know quite what the situation is in USA,
assuming that's where you are.

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Cost.
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As to SSD , I have been reluctant to use one as my fear would be
failure with no warning. With a mechanical drive it's been my
experience that there is usually some type of warning first...such as
SMART, bad clusters or R/W errors.

Brave of you to express that viewpoint; I totally agree with it, but
whenever I've expressed it online, I've been attacked, even when I make
it clear that I'm aware of your next line.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Whether true or not, the point behind the story is a good one.

As to SSD , I have been reluctant to use one as my fear would be failure
with no warning. With a mechanical drive it's been my experience that
there is usually some type of warning first...such as SMART, bad
clusters or R/W errors.

Of course in all cases a good backup strategy is required.

Not to mention grinding or clicking sounds

I have owned at least one drive that could be revived by a few taps of a
screwdriver handle. I *did* decide to replace it

 

[Ken Blake]

It's not a computer part, but in July 2012, I bought a SanDisk flash
drive from eBay. It was a registered shop or something ("Registered as a
business seller"). It came from Hong Kong, costed about 58 euro (can't
find them here at this price, in fact, I can't find it here at all) and
within a few days it arrived.
....


I've been using the flash drive almost daily and it still works. It
tested upload/download speed and it is definitely USB 3.0. I'm a happy
camper...

I don't think any of us suggests that anything you buy from eBay will
be a problem. Rather the *risk* of buying something from eBay is much
greater than buying it somewhere else, and saving a few dollars (or
Euros, in your case) by buying it there may not be worth exposing
yourself to that risk.

 

[Ken Blake]

Should be enough for everyone...

Not necessarily for those who use SSDs exclusively and no HDs. If I
had Bill Gates's money, I would have only SSDs, and I'd probably have
two or three of that size. And some of us here (Char, for example)
might have many more than two or three.