Patch Tuesday

[Fire cat]

Meh - I'm too scared to launch Windows Update...

The annoying thing is, when SP1 will come, it will install updates that I don't want! Any chance to get rid of them?

 

[etalmar]

FC, you can always delete any update by going to the Windows Update panel and clicking on the "Installed Updates" link in the lower left corner. Look over all of your updates and highlight the one(s) that you want to remove.

Then click the "Uninstall a program" link to remove the highlighted update(s) and restart your computer to complete the process.

I've done this before when I decided to delete the Microsoft .NET 4 framework update.

BTW .. for this patch Tuesday, I had 12 updates to install.

 

[Veedaz]

Yep MS will patch and patch again

 

[Fire cat]

FC, you can always delete any update by going to the Windows Update panel and clicking on the "Installed Updates" link in the lower left corner. Look over all of your updates and highlight the one(s) that you want to remove.

Then click the "Uninstall a program" link to remove the highlighted update(s) and restart your computer to complete the process.

I've done this before when I decided to delete the Microsoft .NET 4 framework update.

BTW .. for this patch Tuesday, I had 12 updates to install.

Yeh, I know that. But when the SP1 comes out? You can't pick ou bits of a service pack, can you?

 

[TorrentG]

On SP1, there was only a Microsoft Office 2010 update for me. No patches at all for the OS itself. Maybe later on today...I dunno...

I'll post later on about it...

 

[Fire cat]

PFFF - 17 Updates.

 

[catilley1092]

I had 15 updates for Windows 7, and 16 for XP Pro. Both went through with no problems. But from what I've been reading, these updates may not have solved the whole issue.

And why all of the hush-hush by M$ over this? I found out the real reasons for these updates through third parties, not by Microsoft. Not once, in the releases by M$, were the actual reasons given.

These were major security issues, why does M$ wants to keep us in the dark?

Cat

 

[clifford_cooley]

After the restart I checked to see which update failed and tried installing again without luck.

I've seen updates fail in the past and after a few days install fine. I'm hoping this is one of them.

 

[davehc]

And why all of the hush-hush by M$ over this? I found out the real reasons for these updates through third parties, not by Microsoft. Not once, in the releases by M$, were the actual reasons given.
These were major security issues, why does M$ wants to keep us in the dark?

Cat

Do you be before the event or after, Cat? I find the links in the right hand window give me all the information I could possible want.

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[davehc]

Cliff.
There are one or two reasons for this message. The most common reason which I experience is that, through other paths, I have already got the update. Have a browse through your history.

 

[clifford_cooley]

Cliff.
There are one or two reasons for this message. The most common reason which I experience is that, through other paths, I have already got the update. Have a browse through your history.

There is only two listings for that update, both listings failed to update. Who knows it may update tomorrow.

There is one update that wouldn't update so I hide it. This one is a update to my Broadcom Bluetooth device that has been a real pain in the __. This device is the only device I have ever had that does not want to stay setup. I've downloaded the setup and installed the device. Next windows update is detecting and telling me I need to download the very same setup file. After running the setup again the device finally completes the setup. The device then works fine until I decide to use it again. I finally quit messing with it.

The update listed below took four tries before it finally installed a few months back

Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 Update for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 for x64-based Systems (KB982526)
Installation date: ‎6/‎23/‎2010 1:35 AM
Installation status: Failed
Error details: Code 80200053
Update type: Important
This update addresses a set of known issues of the Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.
More information:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=190967
Help and Support:
http://support.microsoft.com

 

[davehc]

The error code refers to validation.It may have needed to update your validation. Possibly did it later without your knowledge.
If you go here and click the "validate" option, it will renew automatically, and immediately. It does seem to get lost some times.
http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/do...en&sGuid=19dc02ac-6b2d-4fce-a2b2-00ed7160f812

Fwiw.

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P.S.Different model bluetooth of course.

 

[Nibiru2012]

WOW! What a thread! This has people stirred up as much I could ever do...

I see a few paranoid people here... if they have "proof" through 3rd party sources about the "security issues" give the links so we can check them out.

Yes, I have had issues in the past with updates not installing the first time around, usually within a few days they do and all is good.

.NET builds upon itself, so that's how it works. It has always been that way with .NET and probably always will, at least for near future.

Service Packs have always included the critical and security updates, not the "recommended" updates or optional updates.

 

[catilley1092]

WOW! What a thread! This has people stirred up as much I could ever do...

I see a few paranoid people here... if they have "proof" through 3rd party sources about the "security issues" give the links so we can check them out.

Yes, I have had issues in the past with updates not installing the first time around, usually within a few days they do and all is good.

.NET builds upon itself, so that's how it works. It has always been that way with .NET and probably always will, at least for near future.

Service Packs have always included the critical and security updates, not the "recommended" updates or optional updates.

Here it is:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9190719/Microsoft_release

Check it out, these things were never described in detail by M$, they only give reasons that tech users understands, not common since details that the average user can understand.

I mean, a lot was at stake here. And that was only one of the third party articles I could scrounge to find.

Cat

 

[etalmar]

Good find, Cat. Very informative article. Too bad that Micro$oft won't explain exactly what their "updates" are supposed to be fixing, so that the average end user can comprehend it without having to have multiple degrees in computer science.

 

[TrainableMan]

Security updates by their nature ARE technical.

Microsoft is supposedly trying to protect you or very often protect themselves from software piracy ... There, that is your non-technical explanation.

 

[etalmar]

Microsoft is supposedly trying to protect you or very often protect themselves from software piracy.

That seems like more of an excuse to me, than an explanation, but I agree that it mirrors what Microsoft would tell consumers, as they're masters at doublespeak.

 

[TorrentG]

If Microsoft was explicit in their explanations, that would only help people that wish to exploit the unpatched machines. They are acting responsibly and not doublespeaking anyone.

If you want to know the exact details of patches and even how to exploit the 0-day weaknesses, they are plenty of security websites on the net that deal with that.

The average end-user isn't supposed to know the details and is simply supposed to use the pc for enjoyment or work, anyhow.

 

[davehc]

Here it is:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9190719/Microsoft_release

Check it out, these things were never described in detail by M$, they only give reasons that tech users understands, not common since details that the average user can understand.

I mean, a lot was at stake here. And that was only one of the third party articles I could scrounge to find.

Cat

What did you find on that page which explained the updates, and what did you find "informative"?
As I said, the link I gave, or this one

http://www.microsoft.com/security/updates/bulletins/201010.aspx

Gives a list of updates, which, when individual items are selected, leads to this page for example (update ms10-071)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms10-071.mspx

Personally, I would not wish for a more detailed explanation than is offered there. In this respect I would agree with Trainable's post. Any more detail than that given, would certainly be of great help to hackers,certainly not to me or, I suspect, most ordinary users.

 

[clifford_cooley]

This update still does not install. I think I will hide it just to clear the list. This computer telling me I have an update when it won't install is driving me crazy. I had to of done something that is keeping it from installing.