Newsreader for Outlook 2007 ??

[Tim Slattery]

Can someone here please recommend a very good, easy interface, basic
newsreader, preferably one for free ? (Don't mind paying, if there is a
superior one offered for sale....).

Thunderbird is free (www.mozilla.org/thunderbird), Agent costs a few
bucks (www.forteinc.com/agent). I use Agent and love it. Both programs
handle email as well as news.

 

[Geordie]

Can this newsreader poll for new posts every X minutes, or do you have to
manually download? Just curious.

Yes it does by setting up under the batch file icon. I can't access it
just now as my main PC is down.

 

[Bruce Hagen]

Yes it does by setting up under the batch file icon. I can't access it
just now as my main PC is down.

Thank you.

 

[badgolferman]

Can this newsreader poll for new posts every X minutes, or do you
have to manually download? Just curious.

Yes, it can do that via batches as has already been mentioned. What I
want to make clear is that the batch utility is not command line driven
by cryptic codes but is entirely done by a GUI process. There are also
many other batch processes you can select, such as purging messages
older than xxx days or marking messages as read. Every individual
newsgroup can be set up with different batch options.

Here is a screenshot:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6943/batchz.jpg

 

[Bruce Hagen]

Yes, it can do that via batches as has already been mentioned. What I
want to make clear is that the batch utility is not command line driven
by cryptic codes but is entirely done by a GUI process. There are also
many other batch processes you can select, such as purging messages
older than xxx days or marking messages as read. Every individual
newsgroup can be set up with different batch options.

Here is a screenshot:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6943/batchz.jpg

Thanks for that. I often get asked by people that moved to WLMail about
other newsreaders as MS decided to remove the option to "Check for new
messages every XX minutes" for news. (Besides the fact that WLMail just
plain sucks). A lot of people that were used to having them 'just show up'
like in OE want to be able to do that with a new newsreader.

 

[bobster]

Bruce,

I used to hang on your every word as a respected MS-MVP but It appears that
as of Sept 30, you no longer use the title. Did you opt out or did MS
"pull" your accreditation for some reason? Have you soured on MS? If so,
may I ask why? And BTW, I am a retired
aerospace engineer and have no connection with MS other that having used
their products since Windows 3.1.

I was dismayed to hear you characterize WLM2011 as "just plain sucks". I am
an everyday garden variety user of Windows 7, IE9beta and WLM-2011 and find
them all to be good, relatively trouble free products. Yes, one does has to
keep
them updated and "clean" (I use MSE, Malwarebytes and SUPERAntispyware).

While I do miss Outlook Express, I have found WLM-2011 to be similar enough
in format and performance to satisfy my needs. It does have a few
idiosyncrasies (I find them to be minor for my relatively simple usage) but
I have found it to be a good replacement for OE when compared with
Thunderbird, G mail, Hotmail, et al.

Hoping you will continue with your cogent replies to posts as in the past.

=====================================================================================



"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message

Yes, it can do that via batches as has already been mentioned. What I
want to make clear is that the batch utility is not command line driven
by cryptic codes but is entirely done by a GUI process. There are also
many other batch processes you can select, such as purging messages
older than xxx days or marking messages as read. Every individual
newsgroup can be set up with different batch options.

Here is a screenshot:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6943/batchz.jpg

Thanks for that. I often get asked by people that moved to WLMail about
other newsreaders as MS decided to remove the option to "Check for new
messages every XX minutes" for news. (Besides the fact that WLMail just
plain sucks). A lot of people that were used to having them 'just show up'
like in OE want to be able to do that with a new newsreader.

 

[bobster]

And BTW, I use news.eternal-september.org for my news reader. Seems to
work fine with WLM-2011.

===============================================================================================

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message

Yes, it can do that via batches as has already been mentioned. What I
want to make clear is that the batch utility is not command line driven
by cryptic codes but is entirely done by a GUI process. There are also
many other batch processes you can select, such as purging messages
older than xxx days or marking messages as read. Every individual
newsgroup can be set up with different batch options.

Here is a screenshot:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6943/batchz.jpg

Thanks for that. I often get asked by people that moved to WLMail about
other newsreaders as MS decided to remove the option to "Check for new
messages every XX minutes" for news. (Besides the fact that WLMail just
plain sucks). A lot of people that were used to having them 'just show up'
like in OE want to be able to do that with a new newsreader.

 

[Bruce Hagen]

Bruce,

I used to hang on your every word as a respected MS-MVP but It appears
that
as of Sept 30, you no longer use the title. Did you opt out or did MS
"pull" your accreditation for some reason? Have you soured on MS? If
so, may I ask why? And BTW, I am a retired
aerospace engineer and have no connection with MS other that having used
their products since Windows 3.1.

I was dismayed to hear you characterize WLM2011 as "just plain sucks".
I am
an everyday garden variety user of Windows 7, IE9beta and WLM-2011 and
find
them all to be good, relatively trouble free products. Yes, one does
has to keep
them updated and "clean" (I use MSE, Malwarebytes and SUPERAntispyware).

While I do miss Outlook Express, I have found WLM-2011 to be similar
enough
in format and performance to satisfy my needs. It does have a few
idiosyncrasies (I find them to be minor for my relatively simple usage)
but
I have found it to be a good replacement for OE when compared with
Thunderbird, G mail, Hotmail, et al.

Hoping you will continue with your cogent replies to posts as in the
past.

=====================================================================================

Note the separator you had to use since the Indent On Reply option no
longer exists. WLMail will not poll for new news messages automatically
either. Wave 3 was "tollrrable" for mail, but even there, the source/edit
option was removed. I despise the pastel colors as well and Wave 4 has the
"Ribbon" now.

Since getting my first computer, I have used Corel WordPerfect rather than
Word. Mainly because in older versions of Word, you couldn't publish a
document to PDF. I got a free Word 2007 from MS in '07 and gave it a try.
Didn't like it at all compaired to WP. WP is very simple to use and no
ribbon.

I could go on, but.............

To each his own though. If you're happy with it, that's great. Not liking
WLMail is only my personal opinion.

As far as my MVP status, the powers that be decided against it this year.

<quote>
Your contributions were diligently evaluated over the past year against
the contributions of others in the Windows Live Mail community. As a
result of this evaluation, you were not awarded as a Microsoft MVP for the
October 2010 award cycle.
</quote>

Why would I post in a forum for a program I don't use and know very little
about tech wise? I never posted in the WLMail community before. They
didn't care about the 5000+ posts I had in other newsgroups & forums in
the past year.

Now mind you, I did not like WLMail from the get go, but I never spoke bad
about it publically, so that was not an issue about not being awarded this
year. I still have my XP machine with OE and on this Win7 machine, I use
Thunderbird for mail and hacked in Vista's Windows Mail for news.

As far as posting goes, I never did it for MS and I never did it for an
award. I did it because I wanted to help people where I could and I will
continue to help where I can. That includes the new Microsoft Answers
Forums.

http://social.answers.microsoft.com...wSlkQMY79Po3+hHdzrjvrB+JtiBQaKTCoM=&sp=forums

 

[Ken Blake]

?And BTW, I use news.eternal-september.org for my news reader. Seems to
work fine with WLM-2011.

A clarification: news.eternal-september.org is a news *server*.
Windows Live Mail is a newsreader.

 

[Nil]

The closest real newsreader to OE that I finally settled on years ago
is Xananews. Frankly once you begin using it you'll wonder how you
lived without it.
http://xananews.techtips.com.br/

I'm looking at Xananews right now, and it seems to have no filtering
capability except for a simple bozo bin. Filtering by author only, not
by subject or other criteria. Am I missing something?

 

[bobster]

?My bad.

====================================================================

"Ken Blake" wrote in message

?And BTW, I use news.eternal-september.org for my news reader. Seems to
work fine with WLM-2011.

A clarification: news.eternal-september.org is a news *server*.
Windows Live Mail is a newsreader.

 

[Tim Slattery]

As far as my MVP status, the powers that be decided against it this year.

<quote>
Your contributions were diligently evaluated over the past year against
the contributions of others in the Windows Live Mail community. As a
result of this evaluation, you were not awarded as a Microsoft MVP for the
October 2010 award cycle.
</quote>

Welcome to the club! They dropped me a bit over a year ago.

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, Bobster.

Like Bruce and Tim, my MVP Award was not renewed last month. As Bruce said
so well, "As far as posting goes, I never did it for MS and I never did it
for an award. I did it because I wanted to help people where I could and I
will continue to help where I can." As many of us MVPs have said, we do it
because that's who we are. We were trying to help long before there ever
was an MVP program and we'll continue so long as we can keep helping. (I
was not too surprised by my own non-Award this year. But I was shocked to
see Bruce's name missing from the list of Awardees! He has long been one of
the most prolific and most productive helpers in several newsgroups - and
I've even seen him in Forums.)

My views of WLMail are closer to yours than to Bruce's. While I have some
serious complaints about WLM 2011 which I HOPE will be corrected soon, on
balance, it is enough like OE that I can use it on a daily basis. And I
simply cannot use Forums productively. I've tried!

CompuServe was my first online service back in 1979, followed by too many
others to list - or even to remember. A few: The Source, Delphi, Netscape
Communicator, Lexis/Nexis, WSJ Online, Aladdin, Pegasus, AOL (Charter
Member)...and plenty of BBSes. But Usenet has been the most productive for
me, especially with the Microsoft public newsgroups. The Community Bridge
lets me use Microsoft Forums in a pseudo-Usenet format in WLM, but it still
is not the same.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-9/30/10)
Windows Live Mail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3502.0922) in Win7 Ultimate x64
SP1 RC


"bobster" wrote in message
Bruce,

I used to hang on your every word as a respected MS-MVP but It appears that
as of Sept 30, you no longer use the title. Did you opt out or did MS
"pull" your accreditation for some reason? Have you soured on MS? If so,
may I ask why? And BTW, I am a retired
aerospace engineer and have no connection with MS other that having used
their products since Windows 3.1.

I was dismayed to hear you characterize WLM2011 as "just plain sucks". I am
an everyday garden variety user of Windows 7, IE9beta and WLM-2011 and find
them all to be good, relatively trouble free products. Yes, one does has to
keep
them updated and "clean" (I use MSE, Malwarebytes and SUPERAntispyware).

While I do miss Outlook Express, I have found WLM-2011 to be similar enough
in format and performance to satisfy my needs. It does have a few
idiosyncrasies (I find them to be minor for my relatively simple usage) but
I have found it to be a good replacement for OE when compared with
Thunderbird, G mail, Hotmail, et al.

Hoping you will continue with your cogent replies to posts as in the past.

=====================================================================================



"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message

Yes, it can do that via batches as has already been mentioned. What I
want to make clear is that the batch utility is not command line driven
by cryptic codes but is entirely done by a GUI process. There are also
many other batch processes you can select, such as purging messages
older than xxx days or marking messages as read. Every individual
newsgroup can be set up with different batch options.

Here is a screenshot:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6943/batchz.jpg

Thanks for that. I often get asked by people that moved to WLMail about
other newsreaders as MS decided to remove the option to "Check for new
messages every XX minutes" for news. (Besides the fact that WLMail just
plain sucks). A lot of people that were used to having them 'just show up'
like in OE want to be able to do that with a new newsreader.

 

[XS11E]

Windows Live Mail is a newsreader.

That's one huge stretch of the imagination to believe WLM is a
newsreader!

 

[SC Tom]

That's one huge stretch of the imagination to believe WLM is a
newsreader!

Why is that? It's what I use on my Win7 machine. It's close enough to OE6
that, other than the color (or lack thereof), it's virtually the same thing.
I went with WLM because the rules, options, etc., had no learning curve
whatsoever (at least for me). I've stayed with WLM 2009 after reading the
horror stories about 2011, and haven't regretted it at all. I've tried other
mail clients, news readers, and combo products, but came back to WLM since I
liked it better than those others. But then, that's just me; your opinion
may vary

 

[badgolferman]

I'm looking at Xananews right now, and it seems to have no filtering
capability except for a simple bozo bin. Filtering by author only,
not by subject or other criteria. Am I missing something?

Tools/Options/Filters

 

[Cheng Heng]

That's one huge stretch of the imagination to believe WLM is a
newsreader!

WLM 2009 was a newsreader and you can see from the headers of this message.
WLM 2011 is not a newsreader because Microsoft has stopped supporting usenet
newsgroups.

hth

 

[badgolferman]

I'm looking at Xananews right now, and it seems to have no filtering
capability except for a simple bozo bin. Filtering by author only,
not by subject or other criteria. Am I missing something?

Let me add that since you use Xnews you may find Xananews lacking,
especially in the area of scoring. I don't use scoring or filtering
personally, but filtering is available. Like I said in my initial
post, Xananews is a real newsreader that OE users shouldn't have much
trouble adjusting to. The one thing it doesn't do that OE did was set
the Watch flag but that is a moot point because the threads you
participate in are colored and you can set Bookmarks to desired
threads. My favorite feature is customizable keyboard shortcuts and a
simple keyboard shortcut will jump you to threads you have interest in.

 

[badgolferman]

Why is that? It's what I use on my Win7 machine. It's close enough to
OE6 that, other than the color (or lack thereof), it's virtually the
same thing. I went with WLM because the rules, options, etc., had no
learning curve whatsoever (at least for me). I've stayed with WLM
2009 after reading the horror stories about 2011, and haven't
regretted it at all. I've tried other mail clients, news readers, and
combo products, but came back to WLM since I liked it better than
those others. But then, that's just me; your opinion may vary

Real newsreaders have a host of features that make reading Usenet
easier. OE/WLM cover the basics. For many people that is adequate,
but once they use other newsreaders they find out what they've been
missing. A simple analogy would be something like comparing Notepad to
Word.

 

[XS11E]

WLM 2009 was a newsreader

Hardly.