File sharing between Windpws XP and Windows 7

[sharonf]

We have a mixed network with both Windows 7 and Windows XP computers. I
can share files from the XP computers to the Windows 7 computers using
the Public folders only. Since I have a mixed network I am not using
Homegroup. When I try to share other files from the Windows 7 computer
the only sharing options I am allowed are: Nobody, Homegroup(read),
Homegroup (Read/Write), Specific people. When I click on specific people
and try to add an XP computer it says it cannot find the named
computer....even though that computer clearly shows up under networks.
What am I doing wrong?

 

[sharonf]

We have a mixed network with both Windows 7 and Windows XP computers. I
can share files from the XP computers to the Windows 7 computers using
the Public folders only. Since I have a mixed network I am not using
Homegroup. When I try to share other files from the Windows 7 computer
the only sharing options I am allowed are: Nobody, Homegroup(read),
Homegroup (Read/Write), Specific people. When I click on specific people
and try to add an XP computer it says it cannot find the named
computer....even though that computer clearly shows up under networks.
What am I doing wrong?

I should clarify that I can see and access on all files on the XP
computers from the Windows 7 computers. I just can't see and access all
files on the windows 7 folders from the XP computers. From there I can
only see and access files in the Public folder.

 

[John Williamson]

We have a mixed network with both Windows 7 and Windows XP computers. I
can share files from the XP computers to the Windows 7 computers using
the Public folders only. Since I have a mixed network I am not using
Homegroup. When I try to share other files from the Windows 7 computer
the only sharing options I am allowed are: Nobody, Homegroup(read),
Homegroup (Read/Write), Specific people. When I click on specific people
and try to add an XP computer it says it cannot find the named
computer....even though that computer clearly shows up under networks.
What am I doing wrong?

There was a thread about this in this group in mid-February this year.

You probably need to follow the instructions linked to here:-

http://forums.techarena.in/windows-vista-network/1018296.htm

to install the Link Layer Topology Discovery facility on your XP
computer. This lets the XP computer respond to the Windows 7 network
mapping requests.

The instructions are a fair way down the page in the second or third
post in the thread.

This will let the XP computer appear on the network map drawn by Windows 7.

 

[sharonf]

There was a thread about this in this group in mid-February this year.

You probably need to follow the instructions linked to here:-

http://forums.techarena.in/windows-vista-network/1018296.htm

to install the Link Layer Topology Discovery facility on your XP
computer. This lets the XP computer respond to the Windows 7 network
mapping requests.

The instructions are a fair way down the page in the second or third
post in the thread.

This will let the XP computer appear on the network map drawn by Windows 7.

Thanks for the reply. However I've read that LLTD is installed in
Windows XP with service pack three and I do have service pack three. Is
this incorrect?

 

[Paul]

Thanks for the reply. However I've read that LLTD is installed in
Windows XP with service pack three and I do have service pack three. Is
this incorrect?

This is the post back in February on file sharing. Google doesn't
archive alt.windows7.general, so you have to scroll back in your
newsreader and hope for the best. This site does a Google-like job,
but doesn't do message threading and present whole threads.

http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cg...=<[email protected]>

The link to the SP3 hotfix is apparently this one.

http://hotfixv4.microsoft.com/Windows XP/sp4/Fix215806/2600/free/350011_ENU_i386_zip.exe

Adding LLTD to the networking stack, doesn't "fix" file sharing. It announces
machines, such that the network map (graphical thing) in the latest OSes,
render properly, and the older OS machines can be seen.

http://www.tim.id.au/blog/2009/02/01/mapping-your-network-with-windows-7/

"Note that this has nothing at all to do with sharing files on a
network between XP and Vista; this is just to make XP show up
properly in Vista/7′s network mapper. If you’re having filesharing issues,
I suggest taking a look at <<link>> and/or <<link>>

http://www.cnet.com.au/software/operatingsystems/0,239029541,339289508,00.htm

<<second link is defunct, no cache, no archive copy>>
"

To eliminate the "discovery" phase of sharing, you can try
connecting by IP address. That's what I do on a Linux box,
to speed up connecting to Windows machines. Using an IP
address, about the only thing that can go wrong then, is
permissions or authentication. It's a test case you can
try, just to see what works and what doesn't work.

The discovery is done by older protocols (lanman/netbios??? or somesuch),
and LLTD is apparently only useful for drawing a network map.

http://www.tim.id.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/networkmap.jpg

Paul

 

[John Williamson]

Thanks for the reply. However I've read that LLTD is installed in
Windows XP with service pack three and I do have service pack three. Is
this incorrect?

LLTD was an optional update under SP2, but is not included in SP3,
although it is marked by MS as not being available for installation
under SP3.

If you install it under SP2, it is not uninstalled by SP3, but as MS
have marked it as not being needed under SP3, you can't install it
directly from their website, you need to get a bit sneaky and install it
manually. MS doing their usual great job of making life harder than it
needs to be for the user.

 

[meagain]

http://www.trickyways.com/2009/08/how-to-enable-file-sharing-between-windows-7-and-windows-xp/

 

[BillW50]

LLTD was an optional update under SP2, but is not included in SP3,
although it is marked by MS as not being available for installation
under SP3.

If you install it under SP2, it is not uninstalled by SP3, but as MS
have marked it as not being needed under SP3, you can't install it
directly from their website, you need to get a bit sneaky and install
it manually. MS doing their usual great job of making life harder than
it needs to be for the user.

Microsoft makes it hard because they want you to give up on XP and to
move on to Windows 7/8. They call it job security.

 

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:43:59 +0100, "John Williamson"

LLTD was an optional update under SP2, but is not included in SP3,
although it is marked by MS as not being available for installation
under SP3.

If you install it under SP2, it is not uninstalled by SP3, but as MS
have marked it as not being needed under SP3, you can't install it
directly from their website, you need to get a bit sneaky and install it
manually. MS doing their usual great job of making life harder than it
needs to be for the user.

Since it isn't required for anything other than showing the computer on
the network map in Windows 7, who cares if it is hard(ish) to get? It
doesn't have any effect whatsoever on network functionality.

 

[John Ferrell]

Win 7 will not share with a machine it considers insecure. Make sure
the XP are at least password protected!

We have a mixed network with both Windows 7 and Windows XP computers. I
can share files from the XP computers to the Windows 7 computers using
the Public folders only. Since I have a mixed network I am not using
Homegroup. When I try to share other files from the Windows 7 computer
the only sharing options I am allowed are: Nobody, Homegroup(read),
Homegroup (Read/Write), Specific people. When I click on specific people
and try to add an XP computer it says it cannot find the named
computer....even though that computer clearly shows up under networks.
What am I doing wrong?

John Ferrell W8CCW

 

[Med]

Snip

Microsoft makes it hard because they want you to give up on XP and to
move on to Windows 7/8. They call it job security.

They call it job security, I call it extortion.

 

[Gene Wirchenko]

They call it job security, I call it extortion.

We can both be right.

This message is being entered on a Windows XP system.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

 

[sharonf]

LLTD was an optional update under SP2, but is not included in SP3,
although it is marked by MS as not being available for installation
under SP3.

If you install it under SP2, it is not uninstalled by SP3, but as MS
have marked it as not being needed under SP3, you can't install it
directly from their website, you need to get a bit sneaky and install it
manually. MS doing their usual great job of making life harder than it
needs to be for the user.

I have it installed but unfortunately it did not solve my problem.

 

[sharonf]

http://www.trickyways.com/2009/08/how-to-enable-file-sharing-between-windows-7-and-windows-xp/

Thanks I saw that when I was searching for a solution but it does not
address my problem. I can see the networked computers (Windows 7 & XP)
and the Windows 7 computer can access all files on the XP computers.
However, the XP computers can only access the files in the Public
folders on the Windows 7 computer.

 

[Char Jackson]

Thanks I saw that when I was searching for a solution but it does not
address my problem. I can see the networked computers (Windows 7 & XP)
and the Windows 7 computer can access all files on the XP computers.
However, the XP computers can only access the files in the Public
folders on the Windows 7 computer.

On the Win 7 PC, exactly who are the non-public folders shared with?

I think the way I do it is to create an account on the Win 7 PC that
matches each of the accounts on the other PC's in the LAN, meaning
exact same username and password. Then, still on the Win 7 PC, under
who to share with, I select the account(s) that I added.

From any other PC on the LAN, when I connect to the Win 7 I'm
automatically sending the username and password of my currently logged
in account, and since it matches the same account on the Win 7 PC and
since that account is granted share access, everything works.

I probably didn't explain that very well, and in addition I could be
totally wrong.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On the Win 7 PC, exactly who are the non-public folders shared with?

I think the way I do it is to create an account on the Win 7 PC that
matches each of the accounts on the other PC's in the LAN, meaning
exact same username and password. Then, still on the Win 7 PC, under
who to share with, I select the account(s) that I added.

From any other PC on the LAN, when I connect to the Win 7 I'm
automatically sending the username and password of my currently logged
in account, and since it matches the same account on the Win 7 PC and
since that account is granted share access, everything works.

I probably didn't explain that very well, and in addition I could be
totally wrong.

I've done something similar with similar good effect, but the details
are lost in the mists of antiquity, sorry. Still, I *do* recommend
having matching accounts on all the computers in the LAN.

 

[...winston]

LLTD does nothing to enable file sharing. It only serves to allow Win7 to
create a topological map that shows Windows XP on the network.



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....winston
msft mvp mail


"John Williamson" wrote in message
to install the Link Layer Topology Discovery facility on your XP
computer. This lets the XP computer respond to the Windows 7 network
mapping requests.

The instructions are a fair way down the page in the second or third
post in the thread.

This will let the XP computer appear on the network map drawn by Windows 7.