G
Gene E. Bloch
You might be as much of a nag as I am
G
Gene E. Bloch
<SNIP>
I'm a bit older than you, but I took typing in high school because I
thought I'd need it. IIRC, there were a few other boys in the class, not
just girls.
I do touch type, but I still sometimes look like a random letter
generator.
Thus the use of a spellchecker followed by a visual check - and by a few
errors that still get away
C
Char Jackson
I took typing because that's where the girls were. Well, there and
Home Ec, but Home Ec conflicted with Wood Shop.
FWIW, both of you have 20 years on me.
C
choro
But you still qualify as an 'oldie' though a younger 'oldie' than theI took typing because that's where the girls were. Well, there and
Home Ec, but Home Ec conflicted with Wood Shop.
FWIW, both of you have 20 years on me.
rest of us. ;-)
I still swear by touch typing which is typing without looking at the
keyboard as this enables me to concentrate on the screen thus being able
to see any spelling errors --usually none if you are a good touch typing
and good at spelling.
No, no, no! Being able to use all ten fingers and being able to type
without having to put up with the detraction of having to look at the
keyboard is a great boon and a skill definitely worth acquiring.
Though admittedly for oldies used to using just two fingers it might be
too much of an effort to give up years of being used to typing with two
fingers which they should have restricted themselves to using between
sheets! ;-)
K
Ken Blake
OK, my "all boys didn't" was an exaggeration. But not much of one. ;-)
K
Ken Blake
OK, you are welcome to have a view that's very different from mine.
But I still don't agree with you.
R
R. C. White
Hi, Ken.
As you know, I'm 75 - and one of the smartest decisions I ever lucked into
was to take typing in about the 10th grade, some 60 years ago. I've never
tried to get a job as a typist, but I've used that skill all my working life
and now in retirement. I strongly urged my son to take typing in high
school. He has used it "professionally" (as an IRS data transcriber to pay
some college bills). I can type maybe 60 wpm on a good day; he can do 80+
consistently. (I also urged him to take auto mechanics, though I didn't
expect him to work at that, either; too bad he wasn't yet old enough to
drive then and most of that semester's teaching just didn't soak in. Good
thing the girl he met at the IRS job and married is a pretty good mechanic -
and a good cook and computer analyst, too. <g>)
But speed is only the side benefit for the kind of typing we do most of the
time in computing. Emails like this are about the only time I get to type
whole sentences and paragraphs. Mostly I'm just entering a username or
password or a short Memo entry in Quicken... Still, being able to type
confidently while looking out the window at the birds and deer is worth
something. ;<)
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-9/30/10)
Windows Live Mail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3508.1109) in Win7 Ultimate x64
SP1 RC
"Ken Blake" wrote in message
I'm 73 years old, and went to high school back in the days when all
girls learned to touch type and all boys didn't.
I'm around 30 wpm even using just a few fingers (actually more like
five than two). Some 25 years or so ago, I started practicing touch
typing for a while. But I gave it up, for several reasons:
1. I'm pretty fast without it, and I really didn't expect it to add a
lot to my speed.
2. Practicing was a pain in the a** and I didn't enjoy it at all.
3. Practicing was taking a lot of time, and I didn't want to waste the
time doing it. I'd a lot rather use the time to practice my guitar and
banjo playing than practice my typing.
4. The real benefit of touch typing is for the professional typist who
needs to copy what her boss has written and type it (looking at the
handwritten text, not the keyboard). For me, my own boss, and having
nothing to copy, looking at the keyboard is not a problem.
I know the keyboard very well, and it doesn't take me any time to find
the keys I want. The only real difference between me and the average
professional typist is that I have to look at the keyboard and she
doesn't. I didn't want to waste my time to learn a skill (typing
without looking at the keyboard) that I didn't need.
As you know, I'm 75 - and one of the smartest decisions I ever lucked into
was to take typing in about the 10th grade, some 60 years ago. I've never
tried to get a job as a typist, but I've used that skill all my working life
and now in retirement. I strongly urged my son to take typing in high
school. He has used it "professionally" (as an IRS data transcriber to pay
some college bills). I can type maybe 60 wpm on a good day; he can do 80+
consistently. (I also urged him to take auto mechanics, though I didn't
expect him to work at that, either; too bad he wasn't yet old enough to
drive then and most of that semester's teaching just didn't soak in. Good
thing the girl he met at the IRS job and married is a pretty good mechanic -
and a good cook and computer analyst, too. <g>)
But speed is only the side benefit for the kind of typing we do most of the
time in computing. Emails like this are about the only time I get to type
whole sentences and paragraphs. Mostly I'm just entering a username or
password or a short Memo entry in Quicken... Still, being able to type
confidently while looking out the window at the birds and deer is worth
something. ;<)
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-9/30/10)
Windows Live Mail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3508.1109) in Win7 Ultimate x64
SP1 RC
"Ken Blake" wrote in message
I'm 73 years old, and went to high school back in the days when all
girls learned to touch type and all boys didn't.
I'm around 30 wpm even using just a few fingers (actually more like
five than two). Some 25 years or so ago, I started practicing touch
typing for a while. But I gave it up, for several reasons:
1. I'm pretty fast without it, and I really didn't expect it to add a
lot to my speed.
2. Practicing was a pain in the a** and I didn't enjoy it at all.
3. Practicing was taking a lot of time, and I didn't want to waste the
time doing it. I'd a lot rather use the time to practice my guitar and
banjo playing than practice my typing.
4. The real benefit of touch typing is for the professional typist who
needs to copy what her boss has written and type it (looking at the
handwritten text, not the keyboard). For me, my own boss, and having
nothing to copy, looking at the keyboard is not a problem.
I know the keyboard very well, and it doesn't take me any time to find
the keys I want. The only real difference between me and the average
professional typist is that I have to look at the keyboard and she
doesn't. I didn't want to waste my time to learn a skill (typing
without looking at the keyboard) that I didn't need.
M
Maurice Batey
To familiarise myself with Windows Live, I installed it on WinXP.
Immediate problem of specifying POP3 & SMTP servers.
For SMTP it assumes the use of the same login ID as for POP3.
It fails to connect to the specified POP3 server, but there seems no way of
editing/checking the previously-defined account details.
The only mention of 'accounts' is "Add new account".
I don't want to add another - just check and edit the existing one.
Anyone know how to get at it?!
K
Ken Blake
Hi, RC. Yes, I know your age. You're been two years older than me
since we first met. <vbg>
Most of what I type is fairly short. A message as long as yours above,
or the one I'm typing now, is pretty rare for me. If I send a long
reply in a newsgroup or web forum, it's usually cut and pasted from
one or more things I have saved.
I'm working on a book review at the moment, and that's clearly a
longer thing to type. But it's common when doing something like that
for me to type a sentence or two, then stop and think about it for a
while, and then make changes to one or more words. So extra speed
wouldn't help me as much as it would appear to.
So sure, I'd like to be able to type faster, but it wouldn't be as
useful to me as it is to someone typing as a copy from something
that's already handwritten.
And when I type, I'm thinking about what I'm typing, so looking out
the window at the birds and deer would take away my attention and stop
my typing dead in its tracks.
I don't mean to knock typing skills, and at least slightly, I envy
yours, Choro's, my wife's, and my son's (who also took typing in high
school). But, especially at this point in my life, going through the
time and effort to learn those skills is just not worth it to me.
And once again, for a non-typist, I'm pretty fast (but not as fast as
you).
G
Gene E. Bloch
In Windows Live Mail (I assume that's what you mean), I clicked on the
Accounts tab, then the Properties icon, and got a dialog where I could
change settings.
M
Maurice Batey
No way I could find that - looked everywhere!
I have ditched Live Mail in favour of Thunderbird.
With T'bird, I made trial POP & SMTP accounts, and they worked first time.
G
Gene E. Bloch
After I posted the above, I discovered that the tabs can be hidden...
If you right click on the menu bar (or whatever it is) at the top, the
pop-up menu that appears has a line "Minimize the Ribbon". That needs to
be unchecked to do what I said.
I keep Windows Live Mail handy just to look at it to find out how to do
some things - I use TBird for my mail and Dialog for my newsgroups
I suspect you'll be happier with TBird; I find WLM inexplicable at
best...
M
Maurice Batey
I found a smooth way to transfer OE email & settings on XP to TBird on W7:
- On XP:
- Install TBird, also Mozbak
- In Tbird, ask it to import all from OE
- Use Mozbak to backup TBird to e.g. flash drive
- On W7:
- Install TBird & Mozbak
- Carry flash drive from XP to W7
- Ask Mozbak to restore TBird from flash drive backup
The only thing we had to do was give the POP/SMTP password when needed.