Alternative to Win7 Explorer--Yet Again

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WaIIy

I use an underscore for files/folders that I want sorted on top. It
seems (to me) to be less obtrusive.
You're a contrary one, that's for sure.
 
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WaIIy

I didn't see anyone admitting they didn't know that Win Explorer
columns could be sorted (and reverse sorted) by clicking on the column
heading, but I'll concede that somewhere there is someone who probably
assumes that alpha sort is the only option, and heaven help him or her
if he/she accidentally clicks on a column header and 'screws up' the
sort. I guess they'd have no idea how to get it back to "normal". :)
That's not what the OP said, you changed the point.
 
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Char Jackson

What really pisses me off is when the "rules" change. I've had tricks
that that have worked for years with M$ apps in general that no longer
work with the newer stuff. I'm still foundering around the ¥¢¿¤Æ@#
"Libraries" concept.
People make a big deal about Libraries. I'm not the sharpest guy
around and it took me about 3 minutes to figure it out. It's a brand
new feature, after all. 30 seconds of playing around, 2 minutes of
skimming Help & Support, and another 30 seconds to verify that what I
read actually worked. Done! And now I sometimes use Libraries.

I initially used one of the hacks to completely disable and remove
Libraries, based on the fear and confusion I encountered in this
newsgroup. Now I understand that there was nothing to worry about.
 
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Char Jackson

On 24/10/2011 21:09, Char Jackson wrote:
(snip all)

Well I think that you and I are just going to have to agree to disagree
on this. :)

But what I do think has merit is your lateral-thinking suggestion to use
shortcuts as the files in the library folders. That way there is no
chance of losing the original files, and you still have easy access to
all of them.
I admit, I didn't toss that suggestion out with the idea that anyone
would run with it. I'm glad you found some value in it. :)
 
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XS11E

Char Jackson said:
Yes, but that's completely different...
Not at all, this thread started because someone apparently thought an
aftermarket application was needed to do that.
 
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XS11E

Char Jackson said:
I initially used one of the hacks to completely disable and remove
Libraries, based on the fear and confusion I encountered in this
newsgroup.
I did that almost immediately after installing Win7 because Windows
2000 didn't have libraries and my OS *WILL* look and feel exactly like
Windows 2000!

Thanks to removing libraries and other hacks as well as Classic Start
menu, it does look and feel exactly like Windows 2000 and that's why
I'm running it.

As always, YMMV but MY OS will be EXACTLY as I want it to be, OK?
 
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Char Jackson

I did that almost immediately after installing Win7 because Windows
2000 didn't have libraries and my OS *WILL* look and feel exactly like
Windows 2000!
I find that humorous. :)
Thanks to removing libraries and other hacks as well as Classic Start
menu, it does look and feel exactly like Windows 2000 and that's why
I'm running it.

As always, YMMV but MY OS will be EXACTLY as I want it to be, OK?
Fine, thanks for asking. (But I don't know why you did.)
 
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Char Jackson

Not at all, this thread started because someone apparently thought an
aftermarket application was needed to do that.
That's not true. The initial post in this thread had nothing to do
with sorting.

You snipped it, but my statement above, "but that's completely
different..." refers to the concept of sorting Windows Explorer
results by clicking on a column heading versus your observation that
two instances of Explorer can be opened side by side. I don't see what
one has to do with the other, and neither started this thread. Both
were introduced in follow-ups, but at different times.
 
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XS11E

Char Jackson said:
That's not true. The initial post in this thread had nothing to do
with sorting.
Correct. The initial post had to do with moving/copying files, nothing
about sorting.

"Win7 Explorer is driving me crazy in several respects, but one in
particular really causes trouble. In trying to move or copy files"

As with most threads, it eventually drifted far afield...
 
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Gene E. Bloch

People make a big deal about Libraries. I'm not the sharpest guy
around and it took me about 3 minutes to figure it out. It's a brand
new feature, after all. 30 seconds of playing around, 2 minutes of
skimming Help & Support, and another 30 seconds to verify that what I
read actually worked. Done! And now I sometimes use Libraries.

I initially used one of the hacks to completely disable and remove
Libraries, based on the fear and confusion I encountered in this
newsgroup. Now I understand that there was nothing to worry about.
Well, my problems with Libraries have *nothing* to do with understanding
the idea or the use of Libraries.

It is simply that when Libraries is on, it is possible that a moment's
inattention[1] can cause the files that a user thinks s/he has selected
are *not* what Explorer considers to be selected.

As I said upthread, I have *seen* this happen :-(

[1] By "a moment's inattention" I mean looking at what *I* have
selected, and not looking at the dialog box that might pop up asking me
to verify my action (if the action is deletion).
 
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Char Jackson

Well, my problems with Libraries have *nothing* to do with understanding
the idea or the use of Libraries.
When I talked about confusion, I absolutely didn't have you in mind. A
bit of fear might be applicable and understandable, though,
considering what you've reported previously and repeated below.
It is simply that when Libraries is on, it is possible that a moment's
inattention[1] can cause the files that a user thinks s/he has selected
are *not* what Explorer considers to be selected.

As I said upthread, I have *seen* this happen :-(

[1] By "a moment's inattention" I mean looking at what *I* have
selected, and not looking at the dialog box that might pop up asking me
to verify my action (if the action is deletion).
I have no doubt at all that what you're reporting actually happened.
However, I have serious doubts that it had anything to do with
Libraries. I just can't reconcile (in my mind, anyway) the connection
between all of that. In the end, though, it's not important what I
believe, but it would be awesome if I could duplicate the behavior
just to put my own mind to rest.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

When I talked about confusion, I absolutely didn't have you in mind. A
bit of fear might be applicable and understandable, though,
considering what you've reported previously and repeated below.
My apologies.

I need to learn that sometimes it's not all about me :)

But at least I got to add unnecessary emphasis to my story!
 
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Char Jackson

My apologies.

I need to learn that sometimes it's not all about me :)

But at least I got to add unnecessary emphasis to my story!
No need to apologize. Who doesn't like a little unnecessary emphasis?
I know I do! :)
 
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Gene E. Bloch

No need to apologize. Who doesn't like a little unnecessary emphasis?
I know I do! :)
For one thing, an apology is no burden if I can toss in a bit of humor
along the way :)

And I did leap to a conclusion, after all { :) bis}

Right now the local "classical" station is plying a Bach fugue (Little
Fugue in g minor, BWV 578) arranged for a guitar quartet. IMHO, *they*
should apologize { :) yet once more}
 
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Jim

This has been brought up several times before,but I have a specific
question:

Win7 Explorer is driving me crazy in several respects, but one in
particular really causes trouble. In trying to move or copy files,
when I am trying to mark those files it will suddenly decide to start
moving files around, even from and to drives that aren't even up on
the screen. One example: I was trying to copy files from M: (logical
drive on disk in second internal bay) to N: (external USB drive).
Suddenly it started moving document files on C: to other places on C:
and I could not cancel it until it had moved several Gbytes. I have to
call up FileLocator quite frequently to try to find kidnapped files.
Do any of the alternative Explorers require a confirmation before
moving files?
Allen
Sorry Allen I dont have time to read all the replies but i use "Q-Dir"
and something called "Explorer + +" if your moving or copying tons of
files why not use the windows reg hack that will allow the right click
option to either "copy to" or "move to", as i sorry did not read so if i
duped sorry group
 
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thanatoid

<snip>

Windows Explorer is NOT a file manager. It is a torture device
whose primary function is to prevent a new computer user from
understanding the basic principles of file and directory
organization, to keep him/her as ignorant as possible, and to
allow only the most basic of functions, the execution of which
is designed to be as troublesome as possible.

Visit:
www.ghisler.com

Anyone using WE when tools like this (this is NOT the only one,
but it IS the best one) is insane or just stupid.

This program runs forever in fully operational trial mode (you
just have to press one of 3 buttons). Or you can just buy it,
it's not expensive, and it will make you wonder how you lived
without it. The amount of standard built-in functions is
astounding, and the plugins etc which are also available, all
free, is incredible.

Like I said, there are many others, many of them free, but this
is IT.


--
There's nothing here to attract existing fans of either bands.
Instead, all [Rhino's compilation] "Total" does is to reinforce
the idea that Joy Division/New Order was a hugely exciting
source of music between 1978 and 1990 and New Order has been a
pitiful shadow of their once-visionary selves ever since.
John Meagher, The Irish Independent
 

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