Advantages W7-64 over XP-32

[Wolf K]

It's not hidden at all, and it hasn't been changed. Just click View,
and choose either Small Icons (my personal preference) or Large Icons.

OK, confusion removed. I checked my wife's laptop, which doesn't have
Classic Shell. On it, you can "View By", and the default is "Category",
a wizardy thingy that's not especially intuitive. I must have set it to
Large Icons in the past, because that's what it now shows. The Large
Icons/Small Icons/Details/etc selections on the View menu are greyed
out. Classic Shell restores these.

Whew!

So that's all right, then.

But my first install of W7 on this box was pre-SP1, so my impression
that "Category" was the only view offered may be a correct memory. Not
that it matters now.

Wolf K.

 

[Fokke Nauta]

Why bother? Just display the control panel in Icon mode and get the "old"
control panel back. No need for any third-party app....

Well, it looks a bit like the good old control panel but isn't. However, I
can work with it.

Fokke

 

[Gordon]

That's why I'm always logged in with admin rights.
Next thing I'll have to do is googling for how to get rid of the UAC.

Which is why UAC was designed so you DON'T have to run on a daily basis
as an admin and why Windows will ALWAYS be less secure than other OS's
until Users get out of this "Must Run as Admin" mindset.
It's perfectly EASY to run a well-configured Windows machine as a
Standard User....I do all the time.

 

[Nil]

Also, I hate it when some control panel program's settings don't
change/save because it requires administrator access with its UAC.
Example: Java's control panel.

That's Oracle's fault, not Microsoft's. To get around that, you need to
navigate to the executable JAVACPL.EXE, right-click on it, and enable
the Compatibility option, "Run this program as Administrator". From
then on UAC will prompt you to continue, and all changes you make will
stick.

 

[Ant]

That's Oracle's fault, not Microsoft's. To get around that, you need to
navigate to the executable JAVACPL.EXE, right-click on it, and enable
the Compatibility option, "Run this program as Administrator". From
then on UAC will prompt you to continue, and all changes you make will
stick.

It's not just Java! Yeah, I have to do that trick.
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[Gordon]

It's not just Java! Yeah, I have to do that trick.

So what's happened is, that although Windows 7 has been out for
third-party vendors to test their products on it for over FOUR years,
many have failed to do so.

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

Which is why UAC was designed so you DON'T have to run on a daily basis
as an admin and why Windows will ALWAYS be less secure than other OS's
until Users get out of this "Must Run as Admin" mindset.
It's perfectly EASY to run a well-configured Windows machine as a
Standard User....I do all the time.

It's MY computer, and I resent being told how to think!

 

[Gordon]

It's MY computer, and I resent being told how to think!

And I resent having to protect MY machine from the head-in-the-sand
behaviour of you and millions like you...

 

[Wolf K]

It's MY computer, and I resent being told how to think!

Every environment in which you have to make choices "tells" you how to
think. Elementary behaviourism, my dear Watson. ;-)

HTH
Wolf K.

 

[Dominique]

"Fokke Nauta" <[email protected]> écrivait @mid.individual.net:

On the other hand, I wont be able to use some applications as they won't run
on W 7 64-bit.

Fokke

What programs do you have in mind?

All 32 bits applications that I use (mainly music composition) run very
well under W7-64 bits.

 

[Nil]

It's not just Java! Yeah, I have to do that trick.

You should only have to do it once. And I've been pleased to find that
the setting had stayed enabled through the past few Java updates, even
though JAVACPL.EXE gets replaced by newer versions.

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

And I resent having to protect MY machine from the head-in-the-sand
behaviour of you and millions like you...

Then complain to Microsoft. It is they who make the main user default to
the semi-administrator mode, I think.

(I also resent your assumption that _I_ will do things that will imperil
you, though I understand your concern.)

 

[Char Jackson]

Then complain to Microsoft. It is they who make the main user default to
the semi-administrator mode, I think.

You've already stated that you resent being told how to think, so I
assume you're not serious when you suggest asking MS to make the OS
more secure by default. You can't have it both ways. ;-)

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

You've already stated that you resent being told how to think, so I
assume you're not serious when you suggest asking MS to make the OS
more secure by default. You can't have it both ways. ;-)

No, I don't; but if my having the ability to do what I want offends
someone, complaining to me won't have much effect, complaining to
whoever gave me that ... probably won't have any effect either (-:
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[Steve Hayes]

You've already stated that you resent being told how to think, so I
assume you're not serious when you suggest asking MS to make the OS
more secure by default. You can't have it both ways. ;-)

There seems to be a confusion about the main purposes of different operating
systems.

Unix is a multi-user multitasking system, so one user has control of one part
of their maschine only, and in many cases the software is not in that user's
part of the machine.

Windows, while it can have several users, is designed to be used by them one
at a time, and the main user is quite likely to want to fiddle with
configuration files etc in a sort of "it's my machine and I'll do what I like
with it" way, whereas Unix assumes a shared machine.

 

[Char Jackson]

There seems to be a confusion about the main purposes of different operating
systems.

Unix is a multi-user multitasking system, so one user has control of one part
of their maschine only, and in many cases the software is not in that user's
part of the machine.

Windows, while it can have several users, is designed to be used by them one
at a time, and the main user is quite likely to want to fiddle with
configuration files etc in a sort of "it's my machine and I'll do what I like
with it" way, whereas Unix assumes a shared machine.

Thanks, but that seems to have come out of nowhere. How does it apply
to this thread?

 

[Ant]

You should only have to do it once. And I've been pleased to find that
the setting had stayed enabled through the past few Java updates, even
though JAVACPL.EXE gets replaced by newer versions.

Really? Mine get resetted from updates (overinstalls) and into the same
diretory/folder.
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[Steve Hayes]

Thanks, but that seems to have come out of nowhere. How does it apply
to this thread?

The subthread on main users and administrators.

 

[Char Jackson]

The subthread on main users and administrators.

That's not even a complete sentence. What are you trying to say? You
mentioned confusion...perhaps it's you who is confused?

 

[Steve Hayes]

That's not even a complete sentence. What are you trying to say? You
mentioned confusion...perhaps it's you who is confused?

Never mind.