Windows 8 newsgroup

[Rene Lamontagne]

Where might I find windows 8 newsgroup? I had it in eternal september in
Win 7 but now in win 8 it refuses to download newsgroup list Any help
appreciated.

Regards, Rene

 

[Paul]

Where might I find windows 8 newsgroup? I had it in eternal september in
Win 7 but now in win 8 it refuses to download newsgroup list Any help
appreciated.

Regards, Rene

When using Eternal-September, you only get the full newsgroup
list if your newsreader sends the username/password. If you
don't manage to succeed at logging in, only a very short list
of newsgroups results, one of which is the E-S support group.
That way, if a user is having authentication problems, they
can post to the support group to get it resolved.

You're running Tbird 12, and there is a box entitled
"Always Request Authentication" that needs to be ticked
or enabled, in the E-S server setup page you defined.

Paul

 

[Sam Hill]

Where might I find windows 8 newsgroup? I had it in eternal september in
Win 7 but now in win 8 it refuses to download newsgroup list Any help
appreciated.

How did you get to this group, if you don't have a "newsgroup list"?

You are looking for, apparently:

alt.comp.os.windows-8

BTW, your Thunderbird is several versions behind. You want 16.0.1. You've
missed a lot of security updates.

 

[Rene Lamontagne]

How did you get to this group, if you don't have a "newsgroup list"?

You are looking for, apparently:

alt.comp.os.windows-8

BTW, your Thunderbird is several versions behind. You want 16.0.1. You've
missed a lot of security updates.

I have the newsgroup list for Shawnews, the list I wanted was for
eternal-september which Thanks to Paul I now have, I have now updated to
16..0/1.

Regards, Rene

 

[Rene Lamontagne]

When using Eternal-September, you only get the full newsgroup
list if your newsreader sends the username/password. If you
don't manage to succeed at logging in, only a very short list
of newsgroups results, one of which is the E-S support group.
That way, if a user is having authentication problems, they
can post to the support group to get it resolved.

You're running Tbird 12, and there is a box entitled
"Always Request Authentication" that needs to be ticked
or enabled, in the E-S server setup page you defined.

Paul

Thanks Paul, as usual your solution was Right on, BTW I have also
upgraded to 16.0.1, Windows 8 forced me to switch to Thunderbird as Win
8 will not let you set up an E-mail account if you are a POP3 acct, you
need an Imap account.

Thanks again. Regards, Rene

 

[Wolf K]

On 28/10/2012 8:43 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
[...]

Windows 8 forced me to switch to Thunderbird as Win 8 will not let you
set up an E-mail account if you are a POP3 acct, you need an Imap account.

Ok, what's up with that? Why would MS decide to prevent POP3?

 

[Rene Lamontagne]

On 28/10/2012 8:43 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
[...]

Windows 8 forced me to switch to Thunderbird as Win 8 will not let you
set up an E-mail account if you are a POP3 acct, you need an Imap
account.

Ok, what's up with that? Why would MS decide to prevent POP3?

I dunno but it sure set me off, I've had that shaw cable pop3 account
for about 16 years and not even Bill Gates can make me change it.

Regards, Rene

 

[Dave \Crash\ Dummy]

On 28/10/2012 8:43 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: [...]

Windows 8 forced me to switch to Thunderbird as Win 8 will not
let you set up an E-mail account if you are a POP3 acct, you need
an Imap account.

Ok, what's up with that? Why would MS decide to prevent POP3?

I dunno but it sure set me off, I've had that shaw cable pop3 account
for about 16 years and not even Bill Gates can make me change it.

There's gotta be a way. What is preventing TBird from opening a POP3
account? You should be able to write a firewall rule to free up the
proper ports.

 

[sticks]

On 28/10/2012 8:43 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: [...]
Windows 8 forced me to switch to Thunderbird as Win 8 will not
let you set up an E-mail account if you are a POP3 acct, you need
an Imap account.

Ok, what's up with that? Why would MS decide to prevent POP3?

I dunno but it sure set me off, I've had that shaw cable pop3 account
for about 16 years and not even Bill Gates can make me change it.

There's gotta be a way. What is preventing TBird from opening a POP3
account? You should be able to write a firewall rule to free up the
proper ports.

It's only windows mail. Who the hell uses that crap anyway?

 

[Robin Bignall]

On 10/28/2012 8:23 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 28/10/2012 8:43 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: [...]
Windows 8 forced me to switch to Thunderbird as Win 8 will not
let you set up an E-mail account if you are a POP3 acct, you need
an Imap account.

Ok, what's up with that? Why would MS decide to prevent POP3?



I dunno but it sure set me off, I've had that shaw cable pop3 account
for about 16 years and not even Bill Gates can make me change it.

There's gotta be a way. What is preventing TBird from opening a POP3
account? You should be able to write a firewall rule to free up the
proper ports.

It's only windows mail. Who the hell uses that crap anyway?

Nobody has mentioned before that W8 doesn't support pop3. If it's so
that's a showstopper for me.

 

[sticks]

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 10/28/2012 8:23 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 28/10/2012 8:43 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: [...]
Windows 8 forced me to switch to Thunderbird as Win 8 will not
let you set up an E-mail account if you are a POP3 acct, you need
an Imap account.

Ok, what's up with that? Why would MS decide to prevent POP3?



I dunno but it sure set me off, I've had that shaw cable pop3 account
for about 16 years and not even Bill Gates can make me change it.

There's gotta be a way. What is preventing TBird from opening a POP3
account? You should be able to write a firewall rule to free up the
proper ports.

It's only windows mail. Who the hell uses that crap anyway?

Nobody has mentioned before that W8 doesn't support pop3. If it's so
that's a showstopper for me.

As I said, it is the microsoft internal mail program. Anything else
works just fine. You use Forte. No change for you.

I won't be needing Windows 8 for now for many reasons. This just isn't
one of them. Either way, it won't matter as I use other programs for
mail both at home and work.

 

[Bob Henson]

Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 10/28/2012 8:23 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 28/10/2012 8:43 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: [...]
Windows 8 forced me to switch to Thunderbird as Win 8 will not
let you set up an E-mail account if you are a POP3 acct, you need
an Imap account.

Ok, what's up with that? Why would MS decide to prevent POP3?



I dunno but it sure set me off, I've had that shaw cable pop3 account
for about 16 years and not even Bill Gates can make me change it.

There's gotta be a way. What is preventing TBird from opening a POP3
account? You should be able to write a firewall rule to free up the
proper ports.

It's only windows mail. Who the hell uses that crap anyway?

Nobody has mentioned before that W8 doesn't support pop3. If it's so
that's a showstopper for me.

Thunderbird running under Windows 8 works just fine with POP3, as does
any other email client. Thunderbird is exactly the same program whatever
operating system you use and works, obviously, in exactly the same way
- it has nothing whatever to do with the operating system.

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK www.galen.org.uk


If all seems to be going well, you obviously have no idea what is really
happening.

 

[Ken Blake]

Nobody has mentioned before that W8 doesn't support pop3. If it's so
that's a showstopper for me.
--

No, it's not so. It's Windows 8's built-in e-mail program that doesn't
support it. I use Outlook 2010 under Windows 8 and have no problems
using POP3.

 

[charlie]

On 28/10/2012 8:43 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
[...]

Windows 8 forced me to switch to Thunderbird as Win 8 will not let you
set up an E-mail account if you are a POP3 acct, you need an Imap
account.

Ok, what's up with that? Why would MS decide to prevent POP3?

Because - - -
Management told the programmers to?
Microsoft would like to shut down it's POP3 servers?
Microsoft is pushing everything to the "Cloud"?
<G>

Some time ago, MS tried to get MSN users to switch from POP3 to other
alternatives. At one point, new users were forced to go to "Live Mail".
/ HTML mail. Today, even though the MS server names have changed, POP3
is still (obviously) usable if setup properly. Originally, I used POP3
because it was a bit safer than Exchange or other email schemes that
allowed automation based upon message contents. At one point, there was
a version of Outlook Express that, although never fully released, was
fairly bullet proof, easy to use, and allowed the user to, on a message
by message basis, inspect the email for embedded code, etc. without
allowing it to become active. The unreleased version continued to work
into the early win XP versions. XP retail versions were changed enough
that the unreleased version quit working properly. (Sigh!)

 

[Robin Bignall]

No, it's not so. It's Windows 8's built-in e-mail program that doesn't
support it. I use Outlook 2010 under Windows 8 and have no problems
using POP3.

Thanks to all of you. I obviously misread.

 

[Ken Blake]

Thanks to all of you. I obviously misread.

You're welcome. Glad to help.

 

[SC Tom]

On 28/10/2012 8:43 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
[...]

Windows 8 forced me to switch to Thunderbird as Win 8 will not let you
set up an E-mail account if you are a POP3 acct, you need an Imap
account.

Ok, what's up with that? Why would MS decide to prevent POP3?

I dunno but it sure set me off, I've had that shaw cable pop3 account for
about 16 years and not even Bill Gates can make me change it.

Regards, Rene

You can use POP3 on clients other than the in-bred Win8 mail. I'm still
using Windows Live Mail v2009 (14.0.8117.0416) on my Win8 Pro setup, and my
account is a POP3 one from Hargray.

 

[...winston]

"Wolf K" wrote in message

On 28/10/2012 8:43 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote

Ok, what's up with that? Why would MS decide to prevent POP3?

Unlike earlier versions of Windows 8 (Consumer and Release Preview) the RTM version of Windows 8 Mail app now supports additional
email account types.

The Windows 8 RTM included **Mail app** supports the following email accounts.
- Hotmail type accounts (Hotmail, Msn., Live.com)
- Outlook.com
- Office 365
- Exchange
- Gmail
- Yahoo
- AOL
- IMAP

POP3 is not (currently) supported in the Windows 8 Mail app.
- As noted previously, the only way to get mail from a POP3 account into an account in Windows 8 RTM's mail app is to aggregate
that account into a supported email account (e.g. aggregate a POP3 account into an existing Hotmail type or Outlook.com account).

 

[...winston]

You're memory afaics is faulty or explanation faulty.

Having been around since 1994 and access to every single email client build released by MSFT

Microsoft never forced anyone to go to Live Mail
- Live Mail was an optional download install only program and remains so today

The same servers are used for all protocols
- Pop3 and Http

The only services (not servers) discontinued were
- WebDAV access to Hotmail accounts in Outlook Express
- Pop3 access for free Hotmail accounts (later restored)
* the former accomplished by rejecting the handshaking of email clients sending WebDav requests
* the latter by checking for a paid, current active Hotmail Plus account

There really were no XP versions of Outlook Express
OE was released in 1997 as a component of IE4 and continued through IE6. Each version of IE 4, 5.x, 6.x updated OE with a version
and/or under-the-hood update. The browser was bundled with the o/s (the email client with the browser).

--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"charlie" wrote in message

On 28/10/2012 8:43 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
[...]

Windows 8 forced me to switch to Thunderbird as Win 8 will not let you
set up an E-mail account if you are a POP3 acct, you need an Imap
account.

Ok, what's up with that? Why would MS decide to prevent POP3?

Because - - -
Management told the programmers to?
Microsoft would like to shut down it's POP3 servers?
Microsoft is pushing everything to the "Cloud"?
<G>

Some time ago, MS tried to get MSN users to switch from POP3 to other
alternatives. At one point, new users were forced to go to "Live Mail".
/ HTML mail. Today, even though the MS server names have changed, POP3
is still (obviously) usable if setup properly. Originally, I used POP3
because it was a bit safer than Exchange or other email schemes that
allowed automation based upon message contents. At one point, there was
a version of Outlook Express that, although never fully released, was
fairly bullet proof, easy to use, and allowed the user to, on a message
by message basis, inspect the email for embedded code, etc. without
allowing it to become active. The unreleased version continued to work
into the early win XP versions. XP retail versions were changed enough
that the unreleased version quit working properly. (Sigh!)

 

[...winston]

"Robin Bignall" wrote in message

Nobody has mentioned before that W8 doesn't support pop3. If it's so
that's a showstopper for me.

Hmm...

June 1, I wrote:
<qp>
Windows 8, on the other hand does have a Mail app
- the app is part of the Communication package (Mail, Messaging, People,
Calendar)
- the Mail app supports Hotmail, Google, and Exchange accounts (it does not
support Pop3 or IMAP)
</qp>