Wireless problems with laptop


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Bob H

On 2013-09-04 2:06 PM, Bob H wrote:
On 04/09/2013 14:21, Roger Mills wrote:
[...]
As others have said, it looks as if it's sometimes connected to
someone
else's Wifi! Are you running any sniffer programs such as inSSIDer to
see what other networks are around?

Does the laptop need to move around, or could you connect it to the
router with an ethernet cable instead of using WiFi?

That was when the laptop was talking to www land ie ipconfig /all
No I didn't run any wifi sniffer progs, but I will do.

I did connect with a cable and all was well, but I want it to connect
with wireless really.

I have actually reinstalled the OS which is win7 Pro 32bit, so there
are
no other programs on it at the moment, and it is doing exactly the same
thing as it was with other programs on, that is losing the connection,
so that's a reminder to put inSSider on next.

Also in Device Mangler there is a yellow exclamation mark against Other
Devices\ PCI Device.

I have installed AIDA32 to see what it could tell me about the PCI
device, and all it does say in Devices\Device Resources is that on
IRQ11
there is a shared PCI Device and it has a yellow question mark against
it.
Any ideas as to what that could be.

The more I follow this thread, the more confused I am. If your laptop is
connecting to an outside wi-fi network, you should be able to see that
in WP7's connection applet. Does the applet show connection(s) to
outside networks?

OTOH, the info provided by AIDA32 indicates a hardware problem. Since
"all was well" when you used a cable, it looks like the wi-fi circuitry
has developed a fault. I don't think using sniffers or ipconfig or W7's
wi-fi applet can tell you about that one way or the other, because those
programs show you only what's what while the connection is up. Finding a
sequence of different IP addresses (apart from the router's) is exactly
what you would expect if the connection drops and then goes up again.

So now I'm betting that you need a hardware repair. I'd take the laptop
to the shop.

Good luck.
The laptop is now connected to a secure wireless connection to my
router. I know that because I have given the connection a unique name,
whereas before I wasn't sure what or where it was connected to. This was
due to guest ssid on my router was open and not secured, but is now.

In Win7's wifi applet there are currently 3 other networks besides mine,
but none of those show connections to this laptop.
Ok, the unknown PCI device is now known as the Realtek Card reader, and
have a driver installed for it.
I actually got the PCI/VEN number from msinfo32/ Problem devices

Thanks

The laptop is connected to my router, but not to www land.
In Network and Sharing Center the diagram shows a red x between my
router and t'internet.

The troubleshooter says:
The connection between router and internet is broken, I am on cable and
3 other machines here connect to www land with no problems

Problem with wireless adaptor or access point
The default gateway is not available. That should be my router which
available to all the other PCs.
 
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Paul

Bob said:
Ok, the unknown PCI device is now known as the Realtek Card reader, and
have a driver installed for it.
I actually got the PCI/VEN number from msinfo32/ Problem devices

Thanks
You learn something new every day.

I just had a look at msinfo32, and didn't know that was
hiding in there. And both Windows 7 and WinXP have
that info.

Paul
 
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Paul

Bob said:
On 04/09/2013 20:34, Wolf K wrote:
On 2013-09-04 2:06 PM, Bob H wrote:
On 04/09/2013 14:21, Roger Mills wrote:
[...]
As others have said, it looks as if it's sometimes connected to
someone
else's Wifi! Are you running any sniffer programs such as
inSSIDer to
see what other networks are around?

Does the laptop need to move around, or could you connect it to the
router with an ethernet cable instead of using WiFi?

That was when the laptop was talking to www land ie ipconfig /all
No I didn't run any wifi sniffer progs, but I will do.

I did connect with a cable and all was well, but I want it to connect
with wireless really.

I have actually reinstalled the OS which is win7 Pro 32bit, so there
are
no other programs on it at the moment, and it is doing exactly the
same
thing as it was with other programs on, that is losing the connection,
so that's a reminder to put inSSider on next.

Also in Device Mangler there is a yellow exclamation mark against
Other
Devices\ PCI Device.

I have installed AIDA32 to see what it could tell me about the PCI
device, and all it does say in Devices\Device Resources is that on
IRQ11
there is a shared PCI Device and it has a yellow question mark against
it.
Any ideas as to what that could be.

The more I follow this thread, the more confused I am. If your
laptop is
connecting to an outside wi-fi network, you should be able to see that
in WP7's connection applet. Does the applet show connection(s) to
outside networks?

OTOH, the info provided by AIDA32 indicates a hardware problem. Since
"all was well" when you used a cable, it looks like the wi-fi circuitry
has developed a fault. I don't think using sniffers or ipconfig or W7's
wi-fi applet can tell you about that one way or the other, because
those
programs show you only what's what while the connection is up.
Finding a
sequence of different IP addresses (apart from the router's) is exactly
what you would expect if the connection drops and then goes up again.

So now I'm betting that you need a hardware repair. I'd take the laptop
to the shop.

Good luck.


The laptop is now connected to a secure wireless connection to my
router. I know that because I have given the connection a unique name,
whereas before I wasn't sure what or where it was connected to. This was
due to guest ssid on my router was open and not secured, but is now.

In Win7's wifi applet there are currently 3 other networks besides mine,
but none of those show connections to this laptop.
Ok, the unknown PCI device is now known as the Realtek Card reader, and
have a driver installed for it.
I actually got the PCI/VEN number from msinfo32/ Problem devices

Thanks

The laptop is connected to my router, but not to www land.
In Network and Sharing Center the diagram shows a red x between my
router and t'internet.

The troubleshooter says:
The connection between router and internet is broken, I am on cable and
3 other machines here connect to www land with no problems

Problem with wireless adaptor or access point
The default gateway is not available. That should be my router which
available to all the other PCs.
Did you assign a static IP address or something ?

Or fool around with the DNS entries ?

http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Windows-7-Networking-5.jpg

Just some other theories, as well as the
"you're connected to some other router" theory.

Paul
 
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Paul in Houston TX

Bob said:
On 04/09/2013 20:34, Wolf K wrote:
On 2013-09-04 2:06 PM, Bob H wrote:
On 04/09/2013 14:21, Roger Mills wrote:
[...]
As others have said, it looks as if it's sometimes connected to
someone
else's Wifi! Are you running any sniffer programs such as
inSSIDer to
see what other networks are around?

Does the laptop need to move around, or could you connect it to the
router with an ethernet cable instead of using WiFi?

That was when the laptop was talking to www land ie ipconfig /all
No I didn't run any wifi sniffer progs, but I will do.

I did connect with a cable and all was well, but I want it to connect
with wireless really.

I have actually reinstalled the OS which is win7 Pro 32bit, so there
are
no other programs on it at the moment, and it is doing exactly the
same
thing as it was with other programs on, that is losing the connection,
so that's a reminder to put inSSider on next.

Also in Device Mangler there is a yellow exclamation mark against
Other
Devices\ PCI Device.

I have installed AIDA32 to see what it could tell me about the PCI
device, and all it does say in Devices\Device Resources is that on
IRQ11
there is a shared PCI Device and it has a yellow question mark against
it.
Any ideas as to what that could be.

The more I follow this thread, the more confused I am. If your
laptop is
connecting to an outside wi-fi network, you should be able to see that
in WP7's connection applet. Does the applet show connection(s) to
outside networks?

OTOH, the info provided by AIDA32 indicates a hardware problem. Since
"all was well" when you used a cable, it looks like the wi-fi circuitry
has developed a fault. I don't think using sniffers or ipconfig or W7's
wi-fi applet can tell you about that one way or the other, because
those
programs show you only what's what while the connection is up.
Finding a
sequence of different IP addresses (apart from the router's) is exactly
what you would expect if the connection drops and then goes up again.

So now I'm betting that you need a hardware repair. I'd take the laptop
to the shop.

Good luck.


The laptop is now connected to a secure wireless connection to my
router. I know that because I have given the connection a unique name,
whereas before I wasn't sure what or where it was connected to. This was
due to guest ssid on my router was open and not secured, but is now.

In Win7's wifi applet there are currently 3 other networks besides mine,
but none of those show connections to this laptop.
Ok, the unknown PCI device is now known as the Realtek Card reader, and
have a driver installed for it.
I actually got the PCI/VEN number from msinfo32/ Problem devices

Thanks

The laptop is connected to my router, but not to www land.
In Network and Sharing Center the diagram shows a red x between my
router and t'internet.

The troubleshooter says:
The connection between router and internet is broken, I am on cable and
3 other machines here connect to www land with no problems

Problem with wireless adaptor or access point
The default gateway is not available. That should be my router which
available to all the other PCs.
Have you RESET (not just reboot) your router?
If not, I would start there.
 

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