Windows7Pro

[QUEST]

When I bought my computer, the OS loaded on it was Widows7Home.

It worked pretty good, but I have recently upgraded to Windows7Pro.

It's like having a different, faster, more powerful computer.

Those with Winows7Home may want to consider an upgrade to Windows7Pro.

 

[Char Jackson]

When I bought my computer, the OS loaded on it was Widows7Home.

It worked pretty good, but I have recently upgraded to Windows7Pro.

It's like having a different, faster, more powerful computer.

Those with Winows7Home may want to consider an upgrade to Windows7Pro.

Depending on the pre-installed bloat, it's amazing what removing it
can sometimes do. Oh, you thought a performance boost was due to Pro
versus Home? Umm, no.

 

[Jason]

Depending on the pre-installed bloat, it's amazing what removing it
can sometimes do. Oh, you thought a performance boost was due to Pro
versus Home? Umm, no.

Are you sure? I've upgraded two Home Premium systems, and they seem
faster to me. In both cases, it was NOT a clean install - I don't keep
bloatware around, but both systems have a LOT of files, programs, etc.

Jason

 

[Jason]

Are you sure? I've upgraded two Home Premium systems, and they seem
faster to me. In both cases, it was NOT a clean install - I don't keep
bloatware around, but both systems have a LOT of files, programs, etc.

Jason

I forgot to mention.. The first thing I noticed is that both machines
boot faster than they did before. Vista took -forever- to boot, so I was
pleased at first with win7 Home Premium, but Pro settles down much more
quickly.

 

[Ken Blake]

Are you sure?

I'll add my voice to Char's. I am *absolutely* sure. Professional is
no faster than Home Premium. The only difference between the two is
that Professional has some extra features that Home Premium doesn't
have.

I've upgraded two Home Premium systems, and they seem
faster to me.

*If* they are any faster, the reason is a completely different one.

In both cases, it was NOT a clean install - I don't keep
bloatware around, but both systems have a LOT of files, programs, etc.

Having a lot of "files, programs, etc." also has nothing to do with
the speed of the computer. What you have running affects the speed;
what you have sitting on the hard drive does not.

 

[Ken Blake]

I forgot to mention.. The first thing I noticed is that both machines
boot faster than they did before. Vista took -forever- to boot, so I was
pleased at first with win7 Home Premium, but Pro settles down much more
quickly.

How long it takes to boot also has nothing to do with Home Premium vs.
Professional. It depends on several things, but your difference is
most likely what you have starting automatically now vs. what you had
before. Or what malware you were infected with that you no longer are.

 

[Jason]

How long it takes to boot also has nothing to do with Home Premium vs.
Professional. It depends on several things, but your difference is
most likely what you have starting automatically now vs. what you had
before. Or what malware you were infected with that you no longer are.

Nothing changed except for the upgrade adding new Windows files. All the
startup items are the same, the disk was not fragmented in either case. I
tend to agree with your assertion - there shouldn't be a difference.
There is.

But I take exception to your claim that "Having a lot of "files,
programs, etc." also has nothing to do with the speed of the computer."
The biggest PC bottleneck is the disk system. If it has to hop all over
the place (fragmentation matters) to load required files and programs it
will run more slowly. Also, I don't know if this is the case any more,
but on XP having a lot of files in the Recycle Bin would slow down file
operations. I had a client who had NEVER emptied the Recycle Bin - didn't
think it was necessary. You can imagine what the file table must have
looked like. Her machine sped up very noticeably after cleaning the Bin
out.

 

[Ken Blake]

Nothing changed except for the upgrade adding new Windows files. All the
startup items are the same, the disk was not fragmented in either case. I
tend to agree with your assertion - there shouldn't be a difference.
There is.

If you say "there is," I'll believe you. But my point is that you
should look elsewhere for what's causing it. What you think is the
reason is not.

But I take exception to your claim that "Having a lot of "files,
programs, etc." also has nothing to do with the speed of the computer."
The biggest PC bottleneck is the disk system. If it has to hop all over
the place (fragmentation matters) to load required files and programs it
will run more slowly.

Perhaps, but any difference would be a tiny one--barely noticeable.

 

[QUEST]

"Char Jackson" wrote in message

When I bought my computer, the OS loaded on it was Widows7Home.

It worked pretty good, but I have recently upgraded to Windows7Pro.

It's like having a different, faster, more powerful computer.

Those with Winows7Home may want to consider an upgrade to Windows7Pro.

Depending on the pre-installed bloat, it's amazing what removing it
can sometimes do. Oh, you thought a performance boost was due to Pro
versus Home? Umm, no.

--

Char Jackson
-----------------------------------------------
Ummm, yes.

I've worked with home computers starting with the Radio Shack TRS-80 and I
think I do know something about computers. The Windows7Pro IS faster and
more powerful than the Home version. The Pro version also has many more
useful programs that comes with it.

 

[Jason]

"Char Jackson" wrote in message



Depending on the pre-installed bloat, it's amazing what removing it
can sometimes do. Oh, you thought a performance boost was due to Pro
versus Home? Umm, no.

No bloat. That was all gone long before the upgrade. The system after the
upgrade was all the same 'cept for whatever Windows chose to replace.

 

[Jason]

"Char Jackson" wrote in message



Depending on the pre-installed bloat, it's amazing what removing it
can sometimes do. Oh, you thought a performance boost was due to Pro
versus Home? Umm, no.

Oh, sorry .. what you quoted wasn't my post.

 

[Wolf K]

No bloat. That was all gone long before the upgrade. The system after the
upgrade was all the same 'cept for whatever Windows chose to replace.

AFAIK, Pro doesn't start as many demons (eg update checkers) and
services as Home does. They slow down everything. On my wife's laptop
(Home Premium), I cleaned the start-up list, made a noticeable difference.

 

[Desk Rabbit]

"Char Jackson" wrote in message



Depending on the pre-installed bloat, it's amazing what removing it
can sometimes do. Oh, you thought a performance boost was due to Pro
versus Home? Umm, no.

<Replaced missing quote>

Ummm, yes.

I've worked with home computers starting with the Radio Shack TRS-80 and
I think I do know something about computers. The Windows7Pro IS faster
and more powerful than the Home version. The Pro version also has many
more useful programs that comes with it.

=======================

Yet somehow you can't quote properly ;-)

 

[QUEST]

"Desk Rabbit" wrote in message

"Char Jackson" wrote in message



Depending on the pre-installed bloat, it's amazing what removing it
can sometimes do. Oh, you thought a performance boost was due to Pro
versus Home? Umm, no.

<Replaced missing quote>

Ummm, yes.

I've worked with home computers starting with the Radio Shack TRS-80 and
I think I do know something about computers. The Windows7Pro IS faster
and more powerful than the Home version. The Pro version also has many
more useful programs that comes with it.

=======================

Yet somehow you can't quote properly ;-)
.....................................................
Explain yourself. It' enjoyable to see you continue to make an ass of
yourself.

 

[Antares 531]

AFAIK, Pro doesn't start as many demons (eg update checkers) and
services as Home does. They slow down everything. On my wife's laptop
(Home Premium), I cleaned the start-up list, made a noticeable difference.

I'd like to learn more about doing a bloat clean-up. I'm afraid to
meddle with the existing setup but I sure do think my household
computers are "bloated" with stuff they don't need and this may be the
cause of the frequent "not responding" error signals I get from all my
client software. Is there a listing available that would give me some
insight as to which applications/software I can leave on the start
menu and which ones I should get rid of. I'd like to start with my
Windows 7 desktop computer, then if this works well, go on and clean
up the others. Gordon

 

[Char Jackson]

I'd like to learn more about doing a bloat clean-up. I'm afraid to
meddle with the existing setup but I sure do think my household
computers are "bloated" with stuff they don't need and this may be the
cause of the frequent "not responding" error signals I get from all my
client software. Is there a listing available that would give me some
insight as to which applications/software I can leave on the start
menu and which ones I should get rid of. I'd like to start with my
Windows 7 desktop computer, then if this works well, go on and clean
up the others. Gordon

Some light reading here: <http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/removes>

If you're unsure and afraid of doing some damage, make a backup first.

 

[Paul]

Explain yourself. It' enjoyable to see you continue to make an ass of
yourself.

Windows Live Mail 15 does not quote articles properly, making
replies prepared with it, a shambles.

And attempting to fix WLM 15 shortcomings, with little dotted
lines, top posting, hiding your post under a rock etc., just doesn't
work. Nobody else is impressed by that kind of foolishness.
We can't figure out, what you've done with your answer.

Options are, to go back to WLM 14 (which does a better job), or
try another USENET client program which does quote properly.
There are many to choose from.

There is no real reason, to insist on doing both email and USENET
in the same client. You can easily use a separate client for
USENET, and select the *best* one for the purpose. WLM 15 is not
the best one, by any stretch of the imagination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Usenet_newsreaders

Paul

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <[email protected]>, Paul <[email protected]>
writes:
[]

There is no real reason, to insist on doing both email and USENET
in the same client. You can easily use a separate client for

There is no "real" reason to _insist_ on using different clients,
either.

USENET, and select the *best* one for the purpose. WLM 15 is not
the best one, by any stretch of the imagination.

[]
No argument there! (I assumed it did the same with email too, na?)

 

[Gene Wirchenko]

Some light reading here: <http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/removes>

If you're unsure and afraid of doing some damage, make a backup first.

Better stated as:
1) Become unsure and afraid of doing some damage.
2) Make that backup.
3) Juggle priceless eggs in variable gravity, ah, make the changes.
4) Test, test, test.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

 

[Johnbee]

< I'd like to learn more about doing a bloat clean-up. >

I suggest that you download a copy of Anvir, the free version. Run it, and
disable lots of things. I have currently 115 disabled programs which I can
easily enable whenever I want. My PC boots in 45 seconds instead of several
minutes as a result.

I have used Anvir on my last four generations of PCs, since I discovered it.
Even f you just look at it, it is well worth seeing what starts and what
starts them and how they do it.