Windows Upgrade install

[Gene E. Bloch]

Well, it does match at least one other person's experience. I
read this today:

http://www.infoworld.com/d/data-center/software-updates-the-good-the-bad-and-the-fatal-201896
InfoWorld Home / Data Center / The Deep End
September 10, 2012
Software updates: The good, the bad, and the fatal
Updating software and firmware is often necessary, sometimes
straightforward, and never completely comfortable
By Paul Venezia | InfoWorld

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Interestingly, I find that the article you referenced *agrees* with my
remark.

Also, I wonder if you noticed the smiley I had appended to my remark.
The remark owes a lot to Mr Murphy. So, apparently, does the article you
linked to.

 

[Gene Wirchenko]

Well, it does match at least one other person's experience. I
read this today:

[snip]

Interestingly, I find that the article you referenced *agrees* with my
remark.

Also, I wonder if you noticed the smiley I had appended to my remark.
The remark owes a lot to Mr Murphy. So, apparently, does the article you
linked to.

Hey, I was trying to bring some certainty into your life. You
should thank me for that. <BEG>

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:05:08 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"

On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:37:23 +0800, xfile wrote:

In summary, doing an upgrade install is purely based on luck and as far
as I know, computers are based on science not luck.

I'm not so sure that this matches my experience

Well, it does match at least one other person's experience. I
read this today:

[snip]

Interestingly, I find that the article you referenced *agrees* with my
remark.

Also, I wonder if you noticed the smiley I had appended to my remark.
The remark owes a lot to Mr Murphy. So, apparently, does the article you
linked to.

Hey, I was trying to bring some certainty into your life. You
should thank me for that. <BEG>

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

The head spins...

Luckily for me, I am more tolerant of dizziness than of certainty

Thank you ;-)

But the head still spins...

 

[xfile]

I'm not so sure that this matches my experience

I am sure whoever suggested doing an upgrade install don't have a
terrible experience unless...

The point is not about whose experience and technological skills and
knowledge; the point is to maintain a consistent quality output (even
though the initial *production* time is longer) to eliminate preventable
unnecessary future rework cost - which cannot be estimated because no
one could predict until it *happened*.

The concept is very simple - do thing right the first time, and this is
how we could improve productivity, work quality, and to reduce cost,
which then will become profitability which then will become pay raises
and bonus checks.

Doing an upgrade check is the minimum, and veterans like you should know
that compatibility list does not reliable because everyone has a
different interpretation about *compatible*. Some consider being able
to launch a program is compatible while others consider compatible means
retaining all functionalists.

And it's not uncommon for some sloppy programs couldn't even perform
well during its own upgrade/updates not to mention to do a system
upgrade. Finding a problematic driver and/or program alone after
installation could be a costly job.

So, the time spent on post-installation checking and troubleshooting
could be much higher than the installation time for an upgrade install.

So one should always include the *total time* spent not just initial
time without consideration of possible re-work time.

So it's not about whose experience is better or not, and it's about work
attitude - doing things right the first time.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

I am sure whoever suggested doing an upgrade install don't have a
terrible experience unless...

The point is not about whose experience and technological skills and
knowledge; the point is to maintain a consistent quality output (even
though the initial *production* time is longer) to eliminate preventable
unnecessary future rework cost - which cannot be estimated because no
one could predict until it *happened*.

The concept is very simple - do thing right the first time, and this is
how we could improve productivity, work quality, and to reduce cost,
which then will become profitability which then will become pay raises
and bonus checks.

Doing an upgrade check is the minimum, and veterans like you should know
that compatibility list does not reliable because everyone has a
different interpretation about *compatible*. Some consider being able
to launch a program is compatible while others consider compatible means
retaining all functionalists.

And it's not uncommon for some sloppy programs couldn't even perform
well during its own upgrade/updates not to mention to do a system
upgrade. Finding a problematic driver and/or program alone after
installation could be a costly job.

So, the time spent on post-installation checking and troubleshooting
could be much higher than the installation time for an upgrade install.

So one should always include the *total time* spent not just initial
time without consideration of possible re-work time.

So it's not about whose experience is better or not, and it's about work
attitude - doing things right the first time.

I guess I need to clarify for you and for Gene Wirchenko - and others
too, I guess

What I meant was this:

You:
"computers are based on science not luck"

Me:
"I'm not so sure that this matches my experience "

 

[Gene Wirchenko]

On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:46:35 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"

[snip]

I guess I need to clarify for you and for Gene Wirchenko - and others
too, I guess

We understand. Certainly, I do.

What I meant was this:

You:
"computers are based on science not luck"

Me:
"I'm not so sure that this matches my experience "

I got that originally.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

 

[xfile]

I guess I need to clarify for you and for Gene Wirchenko - and others
too, I guess

What I meant was this:

You:
"computers are based on science not luck"

Me:
"I'm not so sure that this matches my experience "

Sorry, my bad. I misunderstood

Speaking of luck, yes, I am totally betting on it when playing video
games.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Sorry, my bad. I misunderstood

Speaking of luck, yes, I am totally betting on it when playing video
games.

Actually, the reason I corrected my remark was that I realized it was
*my* bad for being unclear, so I won't let you claim *your* bad ;-)

So there!

One advantage of Usenet is that we have to resolve all these things
without resort to fisticuffs