Windows Mail

[Bert Coules]

Have you tried Thunderbird?

I insalled it but it got itself into terminal knots with its attempted
auto-setup of my email accounts, then - without asking if I wanted it to or
not - set itself as my default mail program. These two things were enough
to make me dislike it even before I'd tried it, so I uninstalled it.
Perhaps I should give it another go. Is there a way of avoiding the
auto-setup and doing things manually?

Bert

 

[Bert Coules]

Check here for 2 files you can download and apply, which should make
winmail
your default email client ...

Ah, thanks very much for that. At the moment, though I have a Vista
installation disk, it's not installed on any of my PCs. I wonder if there's
a way of extracting the Mail program without doing a full install? I must
check around.

Bert

 

[Roy Smith]

I insalled it but it got itself into terminal knots with its attempted
auto-setup of my email accounts, then - without asking if I wanted it to
or not - set itself as my default mail program. These two things were
enough to make me dislike it even before I'd tried it, so I uninstalled
it. Perhaps I should give it another go. Is there a way of avoiding the
auto-setup and doing things manually?

Yes there is. When the account wizard starts up, go ahead and enter
your name email address and password then click on next. After the
wizard comes up with what it thinks your account settings should be, you
should also see a button in the lower left corner of the window to
manually edit the settings.


Roy Smith
Windows 7

Timestamp: Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:57:51 AM

 

[Stewart]

Ah, thanks very much for that. At the moment, though I have a Vista
installation disk, it's not installed on any of my PCs. I wonder if
there's a way of extracting the Mail program without doing a full
install? I must check around.

Bert

In older Win versions, you used to be able to extract compressed files
from the install disk libraries from the command line. I believe it
was the expand command (it's been awhile). You can open up a command
prompt and type it in with a /? to get a list of the options and
syntax.

You used to be able to use windows explorer to look at the compressed
library files. Not sure if this is still the case (again, older
versions of windows).

 

[Bert Coules]

Yes there is. When the account wizard starts up...

Thanks very much for that, Roy.

Bert

 

[Ophelia]

Windows Mail sure seems like a kludge of a program. Outlook Express
seemed to be much better/faster/more configurable. I know there are
plenty of other 3rd party mail programs available, but has anyone been
able to install OE in W7?

I have given up I am using the default mail. I am getting used to it but
it wasn't easy.

 

[Bert Coules]

Stewart wrot:

In older Win versions, you used to be able to extract compressed files
from the install disk libraries from the command line.

Thanks for that. Now that you mention it, I seem to remember once having a
third party Cabinet Viewer utility which listed the contents of
compressed-file folders without having to extract them first.

Bert

 

[Dave-UK]

Stewart wrot:


Thanks for that. Now that you mention it, I seem to remember once having a third party Cabinet
Viewer utility which listed the contents of compressed-file folders without having to extract them
first.

Bert

Starting with Vista, Microsoft changed the way files are installed during Windows setup.
The Vista install DVD has no compressed program files or cabinet archives but has image
files of an installation. These have a .wim extension (Windows Image).
The two main install files are Boot.wim and Install.wim.
To extract files from a wim file you can use 7-Zip:
http://www.7-zip.org/
This free program will read a wim file and allow you to copy individual files.
The Windows Mail folder is in Install.wim, under Program Files.

 

[Stewart]

I have given up I am using the default mail. I am getting used to
it but it wasn't easy.

Same thing when they changed everything in Office 2007, after so many
people had grown so accustomed to the original interface and placement
of commands and options.

Efficiencies went out the door.....

 

[Bert Coules]

The Vista install DVD has no compressed program files or cabinet archives
but has image
files of an installation.

Again, thanks. I'll give it a go.

Bert

 

[Ophelia]

Same thing when they changed everything in Office 2007, after so many
people had grown so accustomed to the original interface and placement of
commands and options.

Efficiencies went out the door.....

I am using Office 2000. Too many changes are just not good yannow)

 

[Seth]

In older Win versions, you used to be able to extract compressed files
from the install disk libraries from the command line. I believe it was
the expand command (it's been awhile). You can open up a command prompt
and type it in with a /? to get a list of the options and syntax.

You used to be able to use windows explorer to look at the compressed
library files. Not sure if this is still the case (again, older versions
of windows).

With the newer OS installers from MS, it's an image file that can be mounted
to a folder with IMAGEX.EXE. Now you can browse the folder structure within
the image and copy files out.

 

[Stewart]

I am using Office 2000. Too many changes are just not good
yannow)

Yeah, the human mind is a lot like a computer....after a certain age
the buffer tends to overflow.

 

[Stewart]

With the newer OS installers from MS, it's an image file that can be
mounted to a folder with IMAGEX.EXE. Now you can browse the folder
structure within the image and copy files out.

Thanks for the tip. It may be useful for me at some point (if my
personal buffer hasn't overflowed, that is)....

 

[Ophelia]

Yeah, the human mind is a lot like a computer....after a certain age the
buffer tends to overflow.

lol indeed

 

[Ophelia]

Thanks for the tip. It may be useful for me at some point (if my personal
buffer hasn't overflowed, that is)....

Yep! Gotta keep them there personal buffers from overflowing...

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Use Windows Live mail. It is not windows mail.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I am using it for news only. Like OE, it can check for new messages and
download them without having to Sync manually. Nice to be able to just
glance over and see if there are new messages. Can't do that with WLMail.
I don't understand why they did away with that.

I do not sync manually. WLMail works just like OE only better as far as I
can tell.

 

[Bruce Hagen]

I do not sync manually. WLMail works just like OE only better as far as
I can tell.

It is not the same.

If you use OE or WinMail for news, it can be set to download new messages
whenever check for new messages is set for. (5 minutes. 10 minutes. etc.).
With WLMail, you can do the same, but no newsgroup will show a new message
count, or turn BOLD until you physically go to that group.

IOW, if you're sitting on the couch and watching the monitor from a
distance waiting for a group to signify a new message has arrived, you are
going to be disappointed.

 

[Stewart]

Use Windows Live mail. It is not windows mail.

No matter what it's called, IMO it is terrible.