Restoring to a different folder.

[Gene E. Bloch]

That's a ...novel approach, to put it mildly. You remind me of the guy last
year who wanted to copy a set of files from one folder to the same folder so
that the copied files would be grouped together at the bottom of the
Explorer window. (Didn't work, of course.) Some people are very creative
when it comes to computers, and that's not always a good thing.

Who was that guy? I also don't remember who it was. It would be ironic
if it turned out to be Peter Jason, but I really don't think it was him.

He did ask the same question about the Recycle Bin, or a very similar
one, last May 20.

 

[Nil]

Win7 SP1.

I want to delete certain files into the Recycle
Bin but then restore them into different folders,
can this be done at all?

You asked this same question in May of last year.

http://www.w7forums.com/restoring-alternate-site-win7-sp1-t14731.html

 

[Peter Jason]

You asked this same question in May of last year.

http://www.w7forums.com/restoring-alternate-site-win7-sp1-t14731.html

I must have forgotten. Computers are so
complicated.

 

[Char Jackson]

You asked this same question in May of last year.

http://www.w7forums.com/restoring-alternate-site-win7-sp1-t14731.html

That cracked me up. Sometimes an idea seems so good that you just have to
revisit it after giving it some time to percolate.

 

[Char Jackson]

There's only one occasion I can think of where I've ever used the recycle
bin for other than its intended purpose, and that was when I wanted to
delete all the files in some directory tree NOT matching some criterion
on Win98. I searched for the files matching the criterion, hit del, then
searched for * and drag-moved all the results to some temp folder. Then I
restored the recycle bin to put all of the first batch of files back
where they had been, went to the temp folder, selected all, and hit
delete. That way the matching files (the keepers) stayed in their
respective subdirectories.

There aren't many things you can do that are more dangerous to your data
than what you described above, especially on a Win 98 system, where the
Recycle Bin was a fixed (configurable) size. Once that size was filled, new
entries pushed out old items. That's probably not a good idea at all.

Of course, since around Vista (or maybe XP?) onward we've had decent
boolean search in every explorer window. Nowadays I could solve that
problem by just negating the query.

You could do that since Win 95 by going to the Edit menu in Windows Explorer
and selecting 'Invert Selection'.

If you ever use the recycle bin to temporarily move files while having
the computer auto-track which directories to return them to later, MAKE
SURE IT HAS ENOUGH SPACE. Can't stress that enough. With Windows 7 you
shouldn't need to though.

How about not using the Recycle Bin for temporary storage? That isn't what
it's for.

 

[Char Jackson]

Who was that guy? I also don't remember who it was. It would be ironic
if it turned out to be Peter Jason, but I really don't think it was him.

I *think* I know who it was, but it seems mean to call him out on it, even
more so if I'm wrong.

 

[Daniel47]

Mike Barnes wrote:

That would have helped, but not much, because there was no guarantee
we'd have seen his note before the bin was next emptied. Also it's an
awfully long way down to the bottom of a wheelie bin.

My problem with an empty bin would be that I might not notice it and
just start refilling it.

So never getting the delivery!!

Daniel

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

There aren't many things you can do that are more dangerous to your data
than what you described above, especially on a Win 98 system, where the
Recycle Bin was a fixed (configurable) size. Once that size was filled, new
entries pushed out old items. That's probably not a good idea at all.

OTOH, Peter Jason posted this:

"*sniff* The OP knows the setting to give the
Recycle Bin a suitable capacity."

somewhere in this thread, namely
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Of course, I still *strongly* recommend not to do it.

 

[Peter Jason]

Ditto!

Then is there any other way to send a selection of
images to some similar destination with just the
press of one key?

 

[Nil]

Then is there any other way to send a selection of
images to some similar destination with just the
press of one key?

"Similar" to what?

Whatever your answer, the answer is certainly "No."

 

[Char Jackson]

OTOH, Peter Jason posted this:

"*sniff* The OP knows the setting to give the
Recycle Bin a suitable capacity."

somewhere in this thread, namely
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Yep, I saw that, but it doesn't really change anything as far as how foolish
I think the practice is. Exceed the configured size of the Recycle Bin and
his stuff is *silently* deleted.

Of course, I still *strongly* recommend not to do it.

In the words of Ken Blake, "Ditto!"

 

[Char Jackson]

Then is there any other way to send a selection of
images to some similar destination with just the
press of one key?

The (foolish) way that you described doesn't rely on the press of one key,
so why should its replacement have that requirement? What can you do, your
way, that you can't just as easily do by selecting the ones you want to
keep, moving them to a safe place, and then deleting the rest?

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

I'm intrigued. In order to be pressing the DEL key, you can't just be
looking at these files on the internet - you must have already moved
them to somewhere. Am I right?
Well, it's an innovative use of the recycle bin: certainly not what the
designers intended, but then haven't we all found uses for features that
are different from what they were designed for? (As for the bin
"silently" deleting when full, I presume Peter knows about that, and
indeed empties it when he's finished such a sorting session - perhaps
not using it normally [I don't, I nearly always shift-delete].)

Then is there any other way to send a selection of
images to some similar destination with just the
press of one key?

Would I be right in guessing you (like I) have a preference for keyboard
actions over mouse actions? If so, I do recommend looking into
IrfanView: in that, the F7 key is good for moves: OK, it's F7 then space
(or, occasionally, F7 then a digit key), thus two rather than one
keystroke, but it's very versatile for sorting a group of images into
various places. That combined with the spacebar working for "next image"
(and the fact that the delete key works too) means I can sort a pile of
images into various folders with it very rapidly, like sorting mail.
Without touching the mouse (trackpad). If, as I deduced above, you've
already moved all these images into a given location, then this would be
IMO a good method to use: the perceived disadvantage of needing two
keystrokes is IMO outweighed by the facility to set up 14 possible bins
to throw the letters into. (If you have IrfanView (if not, get it!),
load an image and then press F7: how it works is I think intuitive,
other than that it might not be obvious the first time you use it that
it _remembers_ the destination folders you set up.) Oh, and - though I
rarely use it - F8 does the same but copying rather than moving (and you
can set up another, different if you wish, 14 destinations under that).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

.... my favourite is an advert with a woman who can't poo. Then she can. We've
all been there and now she has too. - Sarah Millican, Radio Times 23-29 March
2013

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <[email protected]>, "J. P. Gilliver

various places. That combined with the spacebar working for "next
image" (and the fact that the delete key works too) means I can sort a
pile of images into various folders with it very rapidly, like sorting
mail. Without touching the mouse (trackpad). If, as I deduced above,

[]
When I said "like sorting mail", I wasn't referring to the electronic
variety - I was thinking of some old black-and-white film of a post
office employee in a sorting office (actually it's on a well-known [in
UK] documentary about a mail train, but that's irrelevant here) with a
sheaf of letters, throwing them into assorted bins. (What's probably
done by machine these days.) That's how I'd feel going through a pile of
unsorted images in IrfanView.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

.... my favourite is an advert with a woman who can't poo. Then she can. We've
all been there and now she has too. - Sarah Millican, Radio Times 23-29 March
2013

 

[Andy Burns]

Well, it's an innovative use of the recycle bin: certainly not what the
designers intended

Had an Outlook/Exchange user once who'd created an elaborate folder
structure under "Deleted Items" in their mailbox, they were somewhat
upset when we forced a policy setting that emptied deleted items on exit
.... we were quite generous with the cluestick.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Yep, I saw that, but it doesn't really change anything as far as how foolish
I think the practice is. Exceed the configured size of the Recycle Bin and
his stuff is *silently* deleted.

If it wasn't clear, I absolutely agree with that. I just felt the urge
to point out that PJ says he knows about that property of the recycle
bin and how to work around it.

Note that there's no clear indication that he actually made the bin big
enough every time he tried his procedure

In the words of Ken Blake, "Ditto!"

Likewise, I'm suah.

That spelling is meant to represent pronouncing "sure" as two syllables,
as with a Boston accent. I don't remember where I picked that up - some
comedy on TV or in the movies.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Then is there any other way to send a selection of
images to some similar destination with just the
press of one key?

Look at it this way. In the old days it would have taken hundreds of
keystrokes to do it - and before then you couldn't even do it.

You remind me of the lady who, in a user commentary on a local public
radio station a few years ago, argued passionately against having an
area code overlay in her city, because it would require dialing ten or
eleven digits for every call, which she described as "dreadful".

Ever since then, "dreadful" has been our personal code for someone who
is demanding to an extreme or beyond.

 

[mick]

You asked this same question in May of last year.

http://www.w7forums.com/restoring-alternate-site-win7-sp1-t14731.html

I must have forgotten. Computers are so
complicated.[/QUOTE]

A bad workman always blames his tools

 

[Bob I]

Then is there any other way to send a selection of
images to some similar destination with just the
press of one key?

Windows Search a subset of folders, select desired images with ctrl
pressed, drag-n-drop outside the searched folders, delete remaining files.

 

[Nadegda]

Windows Search a subset of folders, select desired images with ctrl
pressed, drag-n-drop outside the searched folders, delete remaining
files.

As the OP and another poster pointed out, restoring them all to their
original folders afterward can be non-trivial except using the Recycle
Bin's "restore" feature, which remembers where each file came from.

Both also pointed out that it's dangerous if you don't know exactly what
you're doing, and one also pointed out that modern versions of Windows,
including the topic of this newsgroup, let you negate a search and not
just invert a selection.