OT: CarrierIQ Rootkit Found on Android, iOS cell phones.....


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Muad'Dib

This is just an FYI for you people out there that a live on your
cell phone.


http://ct.zdnet.com/clicks?t=1110500577-
9240921cb1ee29bab9188e3d7c317f76-bf&brand=ZDNET&s=5
Yes, I have already read about it. "Carrier IQ" which is OEM installed
has nothing to do with any sort of fly-by installation from a malicious
source. Yeah, it is your own phone carrier having it installed to
supposedly monitor, send back information to them, to improve the
systems. Although they claim it doesn't capture and transmit anything
personal, the person that exposed it says differently according to his
findings. I haven't checked it out, but I guess the guy, Trevor Eckhart,
has video on-line showing his findings that one can view.

G'day
 
D

DanS

Yes, I have already read about it. "Carrier IQ" which is
OEM installed has nothing to do with any sort of fly-by
installation from a malicious source. Yeah, it is your own
phone carrier having it installed to supposedly monitor,
send back information to them, to improve the systems.
Although they claim it doesn't capture and transmit
anything personal, the person that exposed it says
differently according to his findings. I haven't checked it
out, but I guess the guy, Trevor Eckhart, has video on-line
showing his findings that one can view.

G'day
Actually, follow-up articles aren't as grim.....the company
does insist no personal info or messages are saved, but as
your carrier, they would have access to all your voice records
and text messaging anyway, since it all goes through them
anyway. But what about info sent to a third-party. Is that
where this stuff goes ?

My son's got an Android phone, but I was a little miffed that
the only way to find out if it's on your Andoid phone or not
is to root the phone, which is a hack that voids the warranty.
On the iPhone, you just apparently turn off some setting.
 
M

Muad'Dib

Actually, follow-up articles aren't as grim.....the company
does insist no personal info or messages are saved, but as
your carrier, they would have access to all your voice records
and text messaging anyway, since it all goes through them
anyway. But what about info sent to a third-party. Is that
where this stuff goes ?

My son's got an Android phone, but I was a little miffed that
the only way to find out if it's on your Andoid phone or not
is to root the phone, which is a hack that voids the warranty.
On the iPhone, you just apparently turn off some setting.
I haven't researched it yet for all it is supposed to do or not. I too
have an Android phone, a Droid1, which I have not only rooted, but
couldn't resist MODing a week later. (Love the MOD!) I'll have to see if
it was removed from the Cyanogen-Mod. I'm pretty curious now.

Cheers
 
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M

Muad'Dib

Actually, follow-up articles aren't as grim.....the company
does insist no personal info or messages are saved, but as
your carrier, they would have access to all your voice records
and text messaging anyway, since it all goes through them
anyway. But what about info sent to a third-party. Is that
where this stuff goes ?

My son's got an Android phone, but I was a little miffed that
the only way to find out if it's on your Andoid phone or not
is to root the phone, which is a hack that voids the warranty.
On the iPhone, you just apparently turn off some setting.
Ok, I checked on the MOD I use and here is the quote:

"Hah, no chance CM would ever have that garbage. Also, it's proprietary
software and we couldn't ship it if we wanted to."

I also did some quick preliminary research which indicated not all
carriers, including Verizon which I use, use that particular root kit.
However, that is not to say they don't just use a different one. Sad
state when what should be a trusted provider secretly installs such
things without one's knowledge, and also not offering a way to opt out.
(Turn it off) Am close to end of contract, so looking at the new
Motorola Razor. Once I make my choice, I most likely will MOD again as
soon as one is available killing the warranty. Yeah an expensive risk,
but at least the ROM (OS), will be clean of root kits and bloat. My
Nephew MOD'd his new Droid Bionic the same day he purchased it and is a
happy camper. ;)

Side note for group topic, lol: Windows phones do not have that root
kit, but that doesn't mean there isn't a different one included from
carriers.

Cheers
 
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