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Dave-UK

Stan Brown said:
I have a laptop. Would you by chance have a desktop? DVD drive
handling is different in the two.

For example, ImgBurn can close a DVD tray on a desktop, but not on a
laptop.
Yes, I'm using a desktop. I haven't got a laptop around at the moment and I don't
remember the message, if any, I got when accessing an empty drive on a laptop.
 
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Juan Wei

BobbyM has written on 7/2/2013 10:19 PM:
You're right; here are the Maxthon gestures (but they can also be
custoomized):
http://wiki.maxthon.com/index.php/Beginner's_Guide_-_Mouse_gestures_-_Maxthon_1.x
Thanks. This is what I was missing:

"Hold down your right mouse button anywere [sic] inside the web page and
move on a path shown in the image below, then release the right mouse
button."

But, helpful as they may be, using them means I have a bunch of new
things to remember. My brain is leaking as it is. :)
 
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Juan Wei

Ken Blake has written on 7/3/2013 11:32 AM:
Maxthon 1.x is a very old version, and it had very few mouse gestures
compared to what is now available in Maxthon 4.

However all the gestures I personally use are shown on that page.
Current Maxthon has about 20.
 
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Juan Wei

Yousuf Khan has written on 7/3/2013 1:32 AM:
Isn't it a pain in the ass having to answer the question: "<XYZ> isn't
your default browser, would you like to make it your default?", all of
the time?
Only the first time. They all have a "Don't ask me again" option.
 
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Ken Blake

BobbyM has written on 7/2/2013 10:19 PM:
You're right; here are the Maxthon gestures (but they can also be
custoomized):
http://wiki.maxthon.com/index.php/Beginner's_Guide_-_Mouse_gestures_-_Maxthon_1.x
Thanks. This is what I was missing:

"Hold down your right mouse button anywere [sic] inside the web page and
move on a path shown in the image below, then release the right mouse
button."

But, helpful as they may be, using them means I have a bunch of new
things to remember. My brain is leaking as it is. :)

I'm repeating myself, but I'll say it again: the more browsers you use
the more things you have to remember, and the more your brain will
leak. You should pick the browser you like best and use only that one.
 
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Juan Wei

Ken Blake has written on 7/3/2013 2:44 PM:
I'm repeating myself, but I'll say it again: the more browsers you use
the more things you have to remember, and the more your brain will
leak. You should pick the browser you like best and use only that one.
Thanks, mom. :)
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Ken Blake has written on 7/3/2013 2:44 PM:

Thanks, mom. :)
OK, you made me laugh...

But I liked Ken's allusion to your comment about brain-leaks too.
 
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Ken Blake

Ken Blake has written on 7/3/2013 2:44 PM:

Thanks, mom. :)

LOL!

I certainly understand your point of view--that you want to do things
your way, not my way. And unlike your mother, I can't (and don't even
want to) try to force you to do things my way.

So this will be my last post on the subject, and I'll say only one
more thing: your way makes you considerably less productive than if
you were to choose and use only the one browser you like best.

You can't do it with your mother, but you can certainly do it with me:
just ignore everything I say.
 
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Juan Wei

Gene E. Bloch has written on 7/3/2013 3:09 PM:
OK, you made me laugh...

But I liked Ken's allusion to your comment about brain-leaks too.
But I treat them all the same, so I don't have a lot of different things
to remember!
 
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Juan Wei

Ken Blake has written on 7/3/2013 3:14 PM:
LOL!

I certainly understand your point of view--that you want to do things
your way, not my way. And unlike your mother, I can't (and don't even
want to) try to force you to do things my way.

So this will be my last post on the subject, and I'll say only one
more thing: your way makes you considerably less productive than if
you were to choose and use only the one browser you like best.
I'm retired. Productivity is not an issue. :)
You can't do it with your mother, but you can certainly do it with me:
just ignore everything I say.
I don't mind reading your suggestions, but I balk when someone tells me
what I should do.
 
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Ken Blake

Ken Blake has written on 7/3/2013 3:14 PM:

I'm retired. Productivity is not an issue. :)

I'm retired too. But productivity is certainly an issue for me.
Retired or not, there are only so many hours in the day, and lots of
things I want to do that I never get to.

I don't mind reading your suggestions, but I balk when someone tells me
what I should do.

When I tell you what I think you "should" do, I'm making a suggestion,
not giving you an order. What you decide to do is up to you.
 
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Yousuf Khan

Yousuf Khan has written on 7/3/2013 1:32 AM:

Only the first time. They all have a "Don't ask me again" option.
Well then, which one did you choose to be your default browser?

Yousuf Khan
 
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Char Jackson

Ken Blake has written on 7/3/2013 3:14 PM:

I'm retired. Productivity is not an issue. :)


I don't mind reading your suggestions, but I balk when someone tells me
what I should do.
I think you handled this situation exactly right. Ken asked questions and
made suggestions based on what apparently works well for him, but his
approach is definitely not universally beneficial. We all work a bit
differently, and for some of us using multiple browsers has absolutely no
impact on productivity. In fact, it enhances productivity. Likewise, I
laughed when I read the comment about using all of a browser's features
(mouse gestures were the example given). There is never any requirement to
use all of a program's features.
 
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Ken Blake

I think you handled this situation exactly right. Ken asked questions and
made suggestions based on what apparently works well for him, but his
approach is definitely not universally beneficial. We all work a bit
differently, and for some of us using multiple browsers has absolutely no
impact on productivity. In fact, it enhances productivity. Likewise, I
laughed when I read the comment about using all of a browser's features
(mouse gestures were the example given). There is never any requirement to
use all of a program's features.

*All* of a programs features? Certainly not. But as far as I'm
concerned, one should always know what features a program has and
choose the ones that make things better for you.
 
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Ken Blake

*All* of a programs features? Certainly not. But as far as I'm
concerned, one should always know what features a program has and
choose the ones that make things better for you.

.... and know what features the competing programs have so you can
choose the one that is best for you.
 
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Juan Wei

Char Jackson has written on 7/4/2013 10:54 AM:
I think you handled this situation exactly right. Ken asked questions and
made suggestions based on what apparently works well for him, but his
approach is definitely not universally beneficial. We all work a bit
differently, and for some of us using multiple browsers has absolutely no
impact on productivity. In fact, it enhances productivity. Likewise, I
laughed when I read the comment about using all of a browser's features
(mouse gestures were the example given). There is never any requirement to
use all of a program's features.
Thank you!
 
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Juan Wei

Ken Blake has written on 7/4/2013 10:57 AM:
*All* of a programs features? Certainly not. But as far as I'm
concerned, one should always know what features a program has and
choose the ones that make things better for you.
It would be helpful for us inefficient retirees if there were a list of
browsers and their features somewhere, with perhaps a comparison chart.
 
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Ken Blake

Ken Blake has written on 7/4/2013 10:57 AM:

It would be helpful for us inefficient retirees if there were a list of
browsers and their features somewhere, with perhaps a comparison chart.


Yes, I agree that it would be helpful. But if you could find such a
thing, I caution you not to rely on it too much. A name for a feature,
or even a description of a feature, doesn't tell you a whole lot
about it, how it works, how you will like it, and so on. To return to
the example I used earlier, saying that Maxthon has mouse gestures
tells you nothing about how it works, how good it is, or how much you
would like it.

The only good way to evaluate a feature is to try it.

And a comparison chart? You mean a chart that would say that a feature
in program X is better than a feature in program Y? I caution you here
too. Don't rely too much on other people's views, whether it's a
magazine writer's views, my views, or anyone else's views. You should
try them for yourself and make your own decision on what works best
for *you*.

And one further point: if you compare the feature set of five
competing programs (whether browsers or anything else) you can
probably find something in each of them that you like better than in
all the competition. Doing X in program A might be better than doing
it in all the others, but doing Y is best in program B, and so on. You
should make your choice based on your personal evaluation of which of
these is most important to you. And that's why I haven't tried to tell
you which browser you should use. It doesn't have to be the one that I
think is best; you should make your own choices.
 

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