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Stan Brown
"Exclude" is a chimera.
And your upside-down posting *does* frustrate many of us.
Fortunately, there are killfiles.
"Exclude" is a chimera.
And your upside-down posting *does* frustrate many of us.
Fortunately, there are killfiles.
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sticks
Char has hit the nail on the head. Number one reason for not top
posting is that it forces the readers to double read many things that
otherwise wouldn't be necessary.
Robert does not really understand the meaning of "bottom posting."
Evidently, he thinks it means your reply goes all the way at the bottom.
In reality, it means your words go "below" what you are responding to.
This combined with proper snipping makes a thread flow as in
conversation. Email, especially business email, is a different animal.
That smart and handheld devices currently have limitations is not a
viable reason to change accepted procedures here. They will catch up.
It is said that people who top post are one of three things: newbie,
lazy or stupid. They can be any combination, or even all three of the
above. Hopefully, they outgrow the phase and try to fit in.
I suggest there is another description: Troll. In that case, Stan has
the best option. Killfile and get it over with.
sticks
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Prisca
Sorry to butt in on this fascinating conversation, but I just have to
jump in here.
I agree that there are many who are either a newbie, lazy or stupid, but
not everyone who top posts falls into these categories. I think in any
group the convention that should be followed is that of the specific
group, and those wishing to post in it should abide by the majority and
learn to observe the convention before wading in. In this particular
group I would bottom post, or possibly post inline if required.
In other groups that I'm subscribed to, many of which are specifically
for the blind or for those with an interest in blind technology, the
convention is for top posting because it takes time for screen readers
or braille readers to read through all the previous post to get to the
latest response. Electronic speech is quite time consuming at the best
of times, given that it tends to read all the headers and other garbage
which a sighted reader would automatically filter out or skim through.
In all cases though, the main thing for both top and bottom posters to
follow is the convention of proper snipping or editing posts. If I have
to wade through 20 previous posts to get to a one liner at the bottom
I've usually given up on the whole thing by then and just mark the
poster down as either lazy or too stupid to bother with.
Just my twopenneth and I will now go back to lurk mode
Regards
Prisca
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Robert Sudbury
You're right. That extra text added by my AV is rather extraneous and
unnecessarily bulks the message.
I've removed it from my settings.
Thank you for pointing that out.
unnecessarily bulks the message.
I've removed it from my settings.
Thank you for pointing that out.
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Zaidy036
Why scroll when <ctrl>+<end> and <ctrl>+<home> are instantainious?
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Ken Blake
Whether those choices exist for you depends on what newsreader you
use. They are *not* all the same.
And whether you can scroll quickly using such shortcuts or not, they
are still extra steps that aren't necessary if the message isn't top
posted.
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Steve Hayes
No, I was just replying to your post as you saw it.
What I read when I( opened my reader program was the first thing you said in
reply to something I said, except that you didn't reply to what I said, you
simply quoted something you yourself had said, making it *appear* that you
were replying, when actually you were not.
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Steve Hayes
And that is precisely the advantage of e-mail and other forms of electronic
communication.
In a paper letter, if you were replying to a loetter or memo that made several
points, you would have to write introductory material to make it clear which
point you are replying to.
Electronic mail improves on this by making it possible to reply to point
seriatim.
Top oposting, however, forces one to reply as if one were subject to the
contraints of paper mail.
I would disagree. Even there top posting is silly, especially if one is
replying to a message that makes several points.
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Steve Hayes
You quoted all that just to say.... nothing.
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Steve Hayes
Opposite to what?
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Steve Hayes
Who's right?
Right about what?
What's an AV?
Removed what from myour settings?
Pointing what out?
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choro
Do people have sex just in the missionary position? No? Well then, there
is scope for all three types of responding depending on circumstances.
BTW, would the missionary position be top posting or bottom posting? ;-)
-- choro
is scope for all three types of responding depending on circumstances.
BTW, would the missionary position be top posting or bottom posting? ;-)
-- choro
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choro
Read what he is responding to, you stupid sod!
-- choro
-- choro
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sticks
I didn't say I like it, I said it is a different animal. What's worse,
is you can't call out superiors as easily because of their lazy or
stupid behavior.
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Char Jackson
Why would you want to jump all the way to the end of the post? I've
never yet seen anyone put the attribution line down there. If you're
looking for the attribution line and the specific context of the post
being replied to, you can't jump to the end. You have to move down
until you find those things, whether by scrolling or other means.
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Erik Vastmasd
I'm not a frequent poster, but I usually pride myself in being able to
create a reasonable well edited reply.
On this occasion after reading so many messages about top posting, day
after day, I was showing my contempt for discourteous top posters.
In future I will show my contempt by adding them to Agent's kill
filters. ;-)
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Steve Hayes
He said the way he posted he would save me three seconds because I wouldn't
need to scroll down.
But to read what he was responding to I would have to scroll down AND scroll
back up to reply, which would waste six seconds.
So in order to save the three seconds he said I would save, I have to respond
without knwing what he is responding to.
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choro
It's a bit like spending $50 bucks to save $5! Fact is there IS no right
way and wrong way. It all depends on the circumstances.
-- choro
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Wolf K
"Cutting off your nose to spite your face", it looks like.
Wolf K.