Is there any way to use Outlook Express with WIN7?

[BillW50]

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It may not seem like it right now, but Microsoft is doing you a favor
by taking OE off the table. It really wasn't very good at what it
does. Move on and make OE a distant memory.

It is the best newsreader I ever used. And I can find replies to my
posts instantly (CTRL-H). And the search feature is the fastest on the
planet. Thanks to the dbx files. And switching modes is also very fast.
Other newsreaders just end up wasting your time. Like Thunderbird v9
right now is having difficulties with eternal-september.org news server.
While OE6 is working perfectly fine and always has.

 

[BillW50]

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I did manage to find a freeware email client called Postbox Express,
which is no longer supported, which my husband is now using. It's
based on Mozilla, so has similarities to Thunderbird but works more
like OE...

Sounds interesting... although in what sense does it works more like OE?
As I hate the way Thunderbird works. They are getting better, but at the
rate they are going it is going to take them 20 more years before they
finally get it right. So does Postbox Express have the view replies to
your messages (CTRL-H) like OE? And does it toggle between threaded and
unthreaded (ALT-V-V-G) like OE? And can you view only watched threads?
TB9 still can't do this yet.

 

[Ken Blake]

In Char Jackson wrote:

It is the best newsreader I ever used. And I can find replies to my
posts instantly (CTRL-H). And the search feature is the fastest on the
planet. Thanks to the dbx files. And switching modes is also very fast.
Other newsreaders just end up wasting your time. Like Thunderbird v9
right now is having difficulties with eternal-september.org news server.
While OE6 is working perfectly fine and always has.

Opinions on Outlook Express as a newsreader vary from its being the
worst to its being the best. But in my view, how good it is depends on
the user, what he does with it, and what features are important to
him. I found it to be good in some respects, and poor in others. So
what's best for one person isn't best for everyone.

Personally, I greatly prefer FortÊ Agent, even though there were
*some* things about Outlook Express that I liked better.



And running OE-QuoteFix with Outlook Express certainly made Outlook
Express better than it otherwise would have been.

 

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

Opinions on Outlook Express as a newsreader vary from its being the
worst to its being the best. But in my view, how good it is depends on
the user, what he does with it, and what features are important to
him. I found it to be good in some respects, and poor in others. So
what's best for one person isn't best for everyone.

Personally, I greatly prefer Fort? Agent, even though there were
*some* things about Outlook Express that I liked better.

I don't remember anything in OE that I preferred to Forte Agent. I may
have missed something but I won't be returning to the days when I was
forced to use OE. It was something to do compatibility but that was a
management worry.

Steve

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[Ken Blake]

I don't remember anything in OE that I preferred to Forte Agent. I may
have missed something but I won't be returning to the days when I was
forced to use OE. It was something to do compatibility but that was a
management worry.

I wish I could remember what there was about Outlook Express that I
preferred to Agent, but sorry to say that it's been too long and I
can't remember. All I can remember was that there were a couple of
minor things.

 

[Prisca]

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Sounds interesting... although in what sense does it works more like OE?
As I hate the way Thunderbird works. They are getting better, but at the
rate they are going it is going to take them 20 more years before they
finally get it right. So does Postbox Express have the view replies to
your messages (CTRL-H) like OE? And does it toggle between threaded and
unthreaded (ALT-V-V-G) like OE? And can you view only watched threads?
TB9 still can't do this yet.

Sorry, I haven't used it enough to be able to answer those questions.
From the point of view of a blind person using a screen reader, it
works in much the same way OE did. As my husband only uses it for
emails, threaded and unthreaded doesn't really apply to him.

It's only a small download - why don't you have a look at the tutorial
links I supplied and give it a whirl to see if it suits your purposes?

Regards
Prisca

 

[BillW50]

Sorry, I haven't used it enough to be able to answer those questions.
From the point of view of a blind person using a screen reader, it
works in much the same way OE did. As my husband only uses it for
emails, threaded and unthreaded doesn't really apply to him.

It's only a small download - why don't you have a look at the tutorial
links I supplied and give it a whirl to see if it suits your purposes?

Regards
Prisca

Thanks Prisca. Yes I did download it and I did look at the tutorial. I
couldn't even find any mention about newsgroups at all. Although after
installing it does support newsgroups. And it is very Thunderbird like
to me. And it attaches a spam URL onto your signature as well. And I
don't personally notice anything really OE6 like. Although it does
appear to be a slightly better Thunderbird than Thunderbird in one
sense. ;-)

 

[Prisca]

Thanks Prisca. Yes I did download it and I did look at the tutorial. I
couldn't even find any mention about newsgroups at all. Although after
installing it does support newsgroups. And it is very Thunderbird like
to me. And it attaches a spam URL onto your signature as well. And I
don't personally notice anything really OE6 like. Although it does
appear to be a slightly better Thunderbird than Thunderbird in one
sense. ;-)

You can remove the spam tag line. I think it's in the options or
possibly account settings. Yes, I agree it does look a bit like
Thunderbird because it is based on the Mozilla platform. However, as I
said before, from keyboard navigation / shortcuts, which have to be used
because a mouse can't be used by a blind person, it works in a similar
way to OE. Several blind friends have now switched over to it when they
moved to Windows 7 as the learning curve wasn't so steep as the transfer
to using the full Thunderbird and many of the keystrokes have the same
functions.

I can only recommend it as being an easier transition, but everyone has
their own reasons for using a particular application, and what suits one
will not suit another as everyone uses things in different ways and has
different priorities. Still, it is worth looking at new applications
when someone mentions them as it just may be what you are looking for.

Regards
Prisca

 

[Jeff]

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It is the best newsreader I ever used. And I can find replies to my
posts instantly (CTRL-H). And the search feature is the fastest on the
planet. Thanks to the dbx files. And switching modes is also very fast.
Other newsreaders just end up wasting your time. Like Thunderbird v9
right now is having difficulties with eternal-september.org news server.
While OE6 is working perfectly fine and always has.

Agree.

 

[Jeff]

I don't remember anything in OE that I preferred to Forte Agent. I may
have missed something but I won't be returning to the days when I was
forced to use OE. It was something to do compatibility but that was a
management worry.

Steve

There are many problems and lacking features in OE that would bother a
power user. But the very huge majority of people with PCs today are not
power users. For them OE did the job just fine without all the bells and
whistles (and added complications and learning curves) of the "better"
tools.

 

[dweebken]

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Other newsreaders just end up wasting your time. Like Thunderbird v9
right now is having difficulties with eternal-september.org news server.
While OE6 is working perfectly fine and always has.

What is it about TB9.0.1 and ES do you reckon? I'm curious because I'm
reading and replying to your post on TB9 and using the
Eternal-september.org server right now... Seems to work ok for me.

Actually, the exact server I'm using is the
reader443.eternal-september.org server using SSL/TLS security in TB9.

Cheers,
PaulR

 

[dweebken]

snip<
Other newsreaders just end up wasting your time. Like Thunderbird v9
right now is having difficulties with eternal-september.org news server.
While OE6 is working perfectly fine and always has.

What is it about TB9.0.1 and ES do you reckon? I'm curious because I'm
reading and replying to your post on TB9 and using the
Eternal-september.org server right now... Seems to work ok for me.

Actually, the exact server I'm using is the
reader443.eternal-september.org server using SSL/TLS security in TB9.

*Edit: I'm also on Win 7 64 bit edition, FWIW

Cheers,
PaulR

 

[Char Jackson]

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It is the best newsreader I ever used. And I can find replies to my
posts instantly (CTRL-H).

Ah, yes, the lovely CTRL-H you always speak so longingly toward.
Seriously, just tell us which newsreader you prefer and someone will
tell you how to find your posts. They all can do it. Mapping the
function to CTRL-H might be an issue, if that's the part that's
important to you.

 

[BillW50]

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Ah, yes, the lovely CTRL-H you always speak so longingly toward.
Seriously, just tell us which newsreader you prefer and someone will
tell you how to find your posts. They all can do it. Mapping the
function to CTRL-H might be an issue, if that's the part that's
important to you.

No I could careless if the hotkey is CTRL-H or not. Just something quick
to do the very same thing. I can almost do the same thing with
Thunderbird. As I can set the rules to mark my posts as watched and tag
them as important. And Thunderbird will almost do what I want by showing
me only unread watched threads. But I like to review previous read
watched too.

Another thing that OE6 even does better than this. Is some threads can
contain like hundreds of posts. And many of them go off into many
different branches which I'll call subthreads for lack of a better word.
And OE6 only highlights the subthreads which the user has taken part of.
And the rest can be ignored if you would like. I find this just
wonderful and saves tons of time.

 

[BillW50]

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What is it about TB9.0.1 and ES do you reckon? I'm curious because I'm
reading and replying to your post on TB9 and using the
Eternal-september.org server right now... Seems to work ok for me.

Actually, the exact server I'm using is the
reader443.eternal-september.org server using SSL/TLS security in TB9.

*Edit: I'm also on Win 7 64 bit edition, FWIW

Cheers,
PaulR

Okay that might be my fault. As I just installed TB9 the other day and
started from scratch.

 

[BillW50]

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Okay that might be my fault. As I just installed TB9 the other day and
started from scratch.

Although Postbox Express is working fine using the same
eternal-september.org settings. And Postbox uses the same Mozilla engine
as TB.