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SC Tom

Char Jackson said:
I thought Google doesn't index this group. Has that changed?
I have no idea. I only did a search of Ed's subject line and it found ~8400 hits, but not this article, so you're
probably correct.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

I have no idea. I only did a search of Ed's subject line and it found ~8400 hits, but not this article, so you're
probably correct.
About two hours later than SC Tom's report, I just checked Google,
Yahoo, Bing, and Ask. I delimited the target phrase with quotes, and all
four search engines found nothing. Without quotes I got lots of
unrelated hits.

My FF is set up so it's easy to switch search engines with a drop-down
list in the search box, so it seemed reasonable to try the four.
 
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Char Jackson

About two hours later than SC Tom's report, I just checked Google,
Yahoo, Bing, and Ask. I delimited the target phrase with quotes, and all
four search engines found nothing. Without quotes I got lots of
unrelated hits.

My FF is set up so it's easy to switch search engines with a drop-down
list in the search box, so it seemed reasonable to try the four.
What, no Mamma or Dogpile? :)
 
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Ed Cryer

A test for Google's indexing speed.

Ed
Here's what I get with Google-UK right now at 3-00pm.
http://tinyurl.com/66446y4

8 hits including Aussies Phorums (Excellent. Them there Aussies should
read a bit more from the Mother Country!).

I don't know how long it took because I posted the original at 10-30pm
last night, checked after half an hour (nothing found), went to get my
beauty sleep, and have been out and about all today until now (which is
about 16 hours later).

I suppose a lot of it depends on timing; when you post, when the Google
indexer does its stuff. I had a situation with another NG a couple of
months ago, and the question arose about propagation onto other
news-servers. I was checking Google Groups about ten minutes after
posting and I found my posting already appearing under a general search.

Ed
 
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SC Tom

Ed Cryer said:
Here's what I get with Google-UK right now at 3-00pm.
http://tinyurl.com/66446y4

8 hits including Aussies Phorums (Excellent. Them there Aussies should read a bit more from the Mother Country!).

I don't know how long it took because I posted the original at 10-30pm last night, checked after half an hour (nothing
found), went to get my beauty sleep, and have been out and about all today until now (which is about 16 hours later).

I suppose a lot of it depends on timing; when you post, when the Google indexer does its stuff. I had a situation with
another NG a couple of months ago, and the question arose about propagation onto other news-servers. I was checking
Google Groups about ten minutes after posting and I found my posting already appearing under a general search.

Ed
If I put it in quotes, I also get the 8 hits you got, here in the US. Without quotes, the newsgroup hits are at the top
of the list, but there are 7,840 total hits :)
 
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Gene E. Bloch

What, no Mamma or Dogpile? :)
There you are, assigning me homework again:)

OK, I'll Google those to find out what they are...

I've heard of (but forgotten about) Dogpile. Mamma is new to me.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

There you are, assigning me homework again:)

OK, I'll Google those to find out what they are...

I've heard of (but forgotten about) Dogpile. Mamma is new to me.
The Google search bar is not interested in adding Mamma or Dogpile to
its drop-down list. If I can't find a way to do it, I might just put the
shortcuts on the toolbar :)
 
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Gene E. Bloch

The Google search bar is not interested in adding Mamma or Dogpile to
its drop-down list. If I can't find a way to do it, I might just put the
shortcuts on the toolbar :)
Dogpile is now on my Google search bar, but I haven't find a way to add
Mamma yet.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Dogpile is now on my Google search bar, but I haven't find a way to add
Mamma yet.
I installed the Add to search bar add-on and added Mamma that way. I
didn't want to do that, but I didn't find any other option.

Now I can play with them.
 
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Char Jackson

I installed the Add to search bar add-on and added Mamma that way. I
didn't want to do that, but I didn't find any other option.

Now I can play with them.
I was kidding! Both of those are in the twilight of their existence,
as far as I know and despite Mamma's claims of being about to be
reborn. Thanks for going to all that trouble, though. I'm sure they
appreciated the extra few hits. :)
 
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Gene E. Bloch

I was kidding! Both of those are in the twilight of their existence,
as far as I know and despite Mamma's claims of being about to be
reborn. Thanks for going to all that trouble, though. I'm sure they
appreciated the extra few hits. :)
OMG! I missed the joke!

Seriously, I thought you were pointing out that I was ignorant of a
couple of good ones.

Be careful when you're being subtle :)

Well, I'll still look at them a bit, now that I've gone to all that
trouble (and heck, I did learn something useful).
 
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KCB

Gene E. Bloch said:
OMG! I missed the joke!

Seriously, I thought you were pointing out that I was ignorant of a
couple of good ones.

Be careful when you're being subtle :)

Well, I'll still look at them a bit, now that I've gone to all that
trouble (and heck, I did learn something useful).
What about Lycos or Excite or Altavista? Remember them?
 
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Char Jackson

OMG! I missed the joke!

Seriously, I thought you were pointing out that I was ignorant of a
couple of good ones.
Mamma was quite good, IMHO, back when I used it (about 1996-1999). I
never used Dogpile and tossed it out as a random and mostly forgotten
contender. I didn't check, but it wouldn't surprise me if the two I
mentioned plus the 3 mentioned just now by KCB all pre-dated Google.
Be careful when you're being subtle :)

Well, I'll still look at them a bit, now that I've gone to all that
trouble (and heck, I did learn something useful).
All's well that ends well.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Mamma was quite good, IMHO, back when I used it (about 1996-1999). I
never used Dogpile and tossed it out as a random and mostly forgotten
contender. I didn't check, but it wouldn't surprise me if the two I
mentioned plus the 3 mentioned just now by KCB all pre-dated Google.


All's well that ends well.
Wasn't that the name of a play by Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford?
 
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SC Tom

Gene E. Bloch said:
Wasn't that the name of a play by Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford?
Or somebody writing for him ;-)

Dogpile was one of those things you used if you were looking for DOS apps, IIRC. That and Tucows (that wasn't/isn't a
search engine, though).
 
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J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]>, Char Jackson
contender. I didn't check, but it wouldn't surprise me if the two I
mentioned plus the 3 mentioned just now by KCB all pre-dated Google.
[]
AltaVista certainly did; I used to have it as my home page. I've just
tried www.altavista.com and it still comes up, but looking suspiciously
like Google - and it seems to be part of Yahoo now.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)[email protected]+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"We're Americans - with a capital `A'! And do you know what that means? Do you?
It means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the
world." - Bill Murray
 
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Steve Hayes

In message <[email protected]>, Char Jackson
contender. I didn't check, but it wouldn't surprise me if the two I
mentioned plus the 3 mentioned just now by KCB all pre-dated Google.
[]
AltaVista certainly did; I used to have it as my home page. I've just
tried www.altavista.com and it still comes up, but looking suspiciously
like Google - and it seems to be part of Yahoo now.
I have found, however, that Altavista sometimes finds genealogical stuff that
Google overlooks.
 

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