C:\Program Files (x86)

[Stewart]

Joe, thank you for the explanation; I can now see where I went wrong. I
have all my program folders from my previous computer (Windows 7 - 32 bit)
on an external hard drive so thought it would be simple just to move them
into the new computer.
I first did that with Pinnacle Studio and of course put it into the program
folder, not into the x86 folder. The program ran but I was getting 2
faults. I reinstalled it from the original disc; this time the computer
(64 bit) put it into the x68 program folder and it appears to be running but
still a wee conflict so I think I shall have to uninstall the original.



"Joe Morris" wrote in message

On 23/09/2012 14:23, Stan Brown wrote:

You are missing the point here. The second folder (x86) is to install 32
bit version; while the main 64 bit folder is program files. There are
some people, me included, who are still running some 32 bit applications
and so there are installed in its correct location (x86 folder).

Although I disagree with Stan's opinion on having both 32-bit and 64-bit
flavors of an application on the system, his question wasn't why there are
two Program Files folders (that was the question the OP asked); Stan was
asking why a user would ever need to install both.

The OP wisely took the advice in our responses and now understands that
combining the two Program Files folders would be a Very Bad Idea, but the
discussion of why a user might need to install both 32-bit and 64-bit
flavors of an application continues.

Joe

 

[Joe Morris]

Joe, thank you for the explanation; I can now see where I went wrong. I
have all my program folders from my previous computer (Windows 7 - 32 bit)
on an external hard drive so thought it would be simple just to move them
into the new computer.
I first did that with Pinnacle Studio and of course put it into the
program folder, not into the x86 folder. The program ran but I was
getting 2 faults. I reinstalled it from the original disc; this time the
computer (64 bit) put it into the x68 program folder and it appears to be
running but still a wee conflict so I think I shall have to uninstall the
original.

It *is* a bit confusing, no? Not least because in a 64-bit system the
folder for 32-bit system components is "SYSWOW64" where the name suggests
that it's the home of the 64-bit files, but which could be more accurately
parsed as "*W*indows [32-bit programs] running *O*n *W*indows *64*-bit,"
thus "WOW64".

Wow. Plus a few other sarcastic comments.

There are a few files laid down by the Windows installation process that can
be moved around but whether or not you agree with Microsoft's somewhat weird
design of the file structure it's generally not worth the risk to try to
"clean it up", not least because the System File Checker (SFC) knows where
files should be and could cause problems if you ever need to run it.

Incidentally, many 32-bit applications will run quite happily from
C:\Program Files in a 64-bit system; I think you'll find that if nothing the
application does needs to choose a file that is bitness-sensitive then you
win. I've written several tools that support the Windows 7 installation
procedure at my POE, including two that front-end SLMGR and OSPP; some are
32-bit apps, some are 64-bit apps, and all of them go into a folder under
C:\Program Files. As I mentioned upthread, however, the screen saver I
wrote to replace winexit.scr *MUST* go into the appropriate system folder
(C:\Windows\System32 or C:\Windows\SYSWOW64) based in its bitness.

Joe

 

[Timothy Daniels]

Thanks all, I had thought it would tidy the program folder up a bit! but now
I shall just leave things as they are.

If it works ok why bother? The Windows designers know what they're
doing.

You might not be aware of a big problem with your quoting style.
The way your newsreader is doing it, when someone else follows
up, it looks like you *said* what you actually only quoted.

The problem is that Windows Live Mail 2011 (version 15) and also
version 16 have a quoting style that is completely broken.
Unfortunately that poses a painful choice to you: either fix every
quote manually, or get a real newsreader such as Gravity, Xananews,
and Forte Agent (to mention some that come to mind at the moment).
OR, if you really want WLM, some say that WLM 14 will serve; see "SC
Tom" below.

update 2011-04-02: I've seen a newsgroup posting claiming you
can un-break WLM 15 by installing and using an Autohotkey script:
http://www.dusko-lolic.from.hr/wlmquote/

Thanks for your consideration!

Along with what the others have suggested, you can uninstall
WLM 2011 and install WLM 2009 instead, which handles quoting
a lot better:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?
FamilyID=56883de5-2024-4631-806e-757693072a1c

[or use http://tinyurl.com/25zfouw which redirects to the above]

Those links are stale. Try this one to download v. 2009 of
Windows Live Mail:
http://windows-live-mail.brothersoft.com/windows-live-mail2009

*TimDaniels*

 

[...winston]

"Timothy Daniels" wrote in message

Those links are stale. Try this one to download v. 2009 of
Windows Live Mail:
http://windows-live-mail.brothersoft.com/windows-live-mail2009

All versions of WLM (09, 11, 12) are available directly from MSFT servers (no third party hosting sites)

cf.. My blog
http://liveunplugged.wordpress.com/category/windows-live-downloads/

<qp>
Direct download to Microsoft server for the installer executable file

Full version 2012 installer
http://g.live.com/1rewlive5-all/en/wlsetup-all.exe

Web Version 2012 Installer – English Language Version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive5-web/en/wlsetup-web.exe

Full Version 2011 Installer – English Language version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive4-all/en/wlsetup-all.exe

Web Version 2011 Installer – English Language Version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive4-web/en/wlsetup-web.exe


Full Version 2009 Installer - English Language version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive3/en/wlsetup-all.exe
Web Version 2009 Installer – English Language Version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive3/en/wlsetup-web.exe

Note: Direct download links above are for the English language installer. For a different country replace the ‘en’ with the local
language code.
http://liveunplugged.files.wordpres...des-for-windows-live-essentials-downloads.pdf

 

[Timothy Daniels]

All versions of WLM (09, 11, 12) are available directly from MSFT servers (no third party hosting
sites)

cf.. My blog
http://liveunplugged.wordpress.com/category/windows-live-downloads/

<qp>
Direct download to Microsoft server for the installer executable file

Full version 2012 installer
http://g.live.com/1rewlive5-all/en/wlsetup-all.exe

Web Version 2012 Installer – English Language Version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive5-web/en/wlsetup-web.exe

Full Version 2011 Installer – English Language version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive4-all/en/wlsetup-all.exe

Web Version 2011 Installer – English Language Version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive4-web/en/wlsetup-web.exe


Full Version 2009 Installer - English Language version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive3/en/wlsetup-all.exe
Web Version 2009 Installer – English Language Version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive3/en/wlsetup-web.exe

Note: Direct download links above are for the English language installer. For a different country
replace the ‘en’ with the local language code.
http://liveunplugged.files.wordpres...des-for-windows-live-essentials-downloads.pdf

Hmmmm..... Never heard of g.live.com. Hmmmm......
Click. "It is not known whether this file is safe. Are you sure you want to download it?"

Uh.... thanks..... I think.

*TimDaniels*

 

[...winston]

It's perfectly safe...and easily verified
Go here
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-live/download-windows-essentials
Place your cursor on any file and look at the link to the file on **Microsoft's** server
- you'll see the g.live.com on the status bar (or available by rt clicking the link and viewing its properties)

The only difference for all three versions 2009, 2011, 2012 provided in the previous post is the location (folder name) on the
server. The domain (g.live.com) and the filename are the same for all of them.

--
....winston
msft mvp mail


"Timothy Daniels" wrote in message

All versions of WLM (09, 11, 12) are available directly from MSFT servers (no third party hosting sites)

cf.. My blog
http://liveunplugged.wordpress.com/category/windows-live-downloads/

<qp>
Direct download to Microsoft server for the installer executable file

Full version 2012 installer
http://g.live.com/1rewlive5-all/en/wlsetup-all.exe

Web Version 2012 Installer – English Language Version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive5-web/en/wlsetup-web.exe

Full Version 2011 Installer – English Language version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive4-all/en/wlsetup-all.exe

Web Version 2011 Installer – English Language Version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive4-web/en/wlsetup-web.exe


Full Version 2009 Installer - English Language version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive3/en/wlsetup-all.exe
Web Version 2009 Installer – English Language Version
http://g.live.com/1rewlive3/en/wlsetup-web.exe

Note: Direct download links above are for the English language installer. For a different country replace the ‘en’ with the local
language code.
http://liveunplugged.files.wordpres...des-for-windows-live-essentials-downloads.pdf

Hmmmm..... Never heard of g.live.com. Hmmmm......
Click. "It is not known whether this file is safe. Are you sure you want to download it?"

Uh.... thanks..... I think.

*TimDaniels*

 

[Timothy Daniels]

Thanks for your persistence in pointing that out, Winston. I appreciate
your continued attention in this thread. It makes the replies worth archiving.

*TimDaniels*