Adware.MyWebSearch/FunWebProducts

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Bob Henson

Nil said:
Millions of people speak Chinese. You don't, but your logic says that
it's a problem with the language, not with you.
A complete non-sequitur- logic is not your strong point. However, you may
learn as you get older.
Malwarbytes runs just fine for almost everybody else. Logic says
there's something screwy about your computer, rather than with
everybody else's.
Possibly - but as nothing similar has happened with any other program, and
bearing in mind the type of error (you probably didn't bother to read the
error message in your anxiety to dive in and be unpleasant) , probability
dictates not.
We're not here to hold your hand.
It's a good job, you'd get fired on day one in a support centre. However,
as I suggested elsewhere to Alias - when dealing with prats the best thing
to do is walk away and leave them to it - so I will take my own advice and
unsucscribe from here. There are lots of people elsewhere who are only to
pleased to be helpful - which is what I was trying to do with the OP when
you all dived in to tell me that you were all infallible and omniscient,
and that my opinions were of no interest.

Maybe we'll meet somewhere else - but not if I see you coming.

--

Heaven is where the police are British, the mechanics German, the cooks are
French, the lovers Italian, and all is organized by the Swiss.
Hell is where the police are German, the mechanics are French, the cooks
are British, the lovers are Swiss, and it's all organized by the Italians!
 
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Rodney Pont

I've just been looking them up on the web. Superantispyware has a lot of
bad reviews, so I won't touch that one. I decided to try Malwarebytes on
here (Windows 7 64bit) to see how it ran - the installer ran, updated
itself, then the program itself refused to run saying "The current database
is not supported by this version of the program. Please download the latest
version". As I just downloaded the latest version, this doesn't fill me
with confidence. I removed it quicker than I installed it, and got rid of
it's droppings with Ccleaner.
I installed it on Windows 7 64bit and it asked if it should check for
updates when it started which I allowed. It downloaded a new database
and runs perfectly.
 
C

Char Jackson

My computer is fine - but, as I described above, Malwarebytes won't run on
it. I don't know why - but since nothing else fails to run on it, it has to
be a problem with Malwarebytes - plain logic.
If every program runs fine on your computer and just one refuses to
run, you could be forgiven for initially thinking that the problem
lies with that program... BUT once you find out that the same program
runs fine for hundreds of thousands of other people, you have to come
to the realization that your computer has an issue. MBAM has a very
helpful forum, if you're interested. I'm sure they'd get you sorted
quickly.
As far as Superantispyware is concerned, there is sufficient evidence about
for me not to even try it, judging by problems others have found and
reported on line - have a good Google around if you don't believe that
either.
You're missing out on two excellent programs.
 
C

Clogwog

Bob Henson said:
I have Avast! and Defender running here. As Defender was included with the
operating system when I got the computer, and it doesn't seem to upset
anything else, I left it running. It has never found anything so I don't
know if it works or not. Avast! seems to be the best anti-virus all round,
and it's free - so you can't ask for more than that. I don't have Spybot
running real time either - I have enough overheads already - I just run it
occasionally.
Avast & Defender running is sufficient. Running Ccleaner every once in a
while has it's benefits too.
One of Alias regular trolls is to whine about Windows security and that one
should need to run extra's like Malwarebytes and "Super", whatever...
Standard Windows security is solid, remember!
Multiple Active Firewall Policies,
Built upon the proven security technologies in Windows Vista.
DirectAccess,
BranchCache,
BitLocker To Go,
AppLocker
If things might go wrong, you are better off with a program like Acronis
True Image.
If you might get infected, Acronis is able to restore your system and
installed app's in less than 10 minutes.
No need to run stupid, slow, programs like "Malwarebytes" and "Super",
whatever...
The image restore + MBR restore removes all malware, even the nasty ones:
rootkits.
 
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Nil

I installed it on Windows 7 64bit and it asked if it should check
for updates when it started which I allowed. It downloaded a new
database and runs perfectly.
That's perfectly normal behavior. The install executable is compiled
only occasionally. Incremental updates to the program are made
available for download frequently between major version releases.
 
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Nil

A complete non-sequitur- logic is not your strong point. However,
you may learn as you get older.
The conclusion follows just as it should. I could explain it to you.
Possibly - but as nothing similar has happened with any other
program, and bearing in mind the type of error (you probably
didn't bother to read the error message in your anxiety to dive in
and be unpleasant) , probability dictates not.
I have not seen you report any error message. The only thing I saw from
you was about the program telling you it needed to update itself. You
refused. The error was yours, not the program's.
It's a good job, you'd get fired on day one in a support centre.
This is not a "support centre." We are under no obligation to help you
or anyone else.

If you were to drop the attitude, stop blaming everything else but
yourself, accept some personal responsibility, you would probably get
some good answers and ideas from the collective experience of this
newsgroup. It's a two-way street.
I will take my own advice and unsucscribe from here.
That's your loss. You won't be missed.
 
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bobster

?"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
I have Win7 Home Premium 64 bit and WLM 2009

Just lately my SUPERAntiSpyware Free Edition has been finding a host of the
above spyware. I quarantine it and Restart, but it shows up again,
instantly. There is nothing in my Installed Programmes or IE toolbar of a
similar name, but there is 'Fun Web Products install' in Manage Add-ons and
I have Disabled that. Still it persists. I obviously need a fresh spyware
detector, but I sense that there will be an answer here. It could be
harmless. Have tried Google. Any ideas?


Mr. Davis,

Here's what I do and I NEVER have any adware or virus problems

1) Download and use Microsoft Security Essentials
2) Turn on the Windows firewall
3) Download Malwarebytes free version. Do a complete scan once per week
4) Download SUPERantispyware free version. Do a complete scan once per
week
5) Keep all of the above plus Windows and Internet Explorer if you use it.
updated regularly

Here's how to uninstall Fun Web Products:

http://help.funwebproducts.com/uninstall/uninstall.html
 
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Richard Colton

I've just been looking them up on the web. Superantispyware has a lot of
bad reviews, so I won't touch that one. I decided to try Malwarebytes on
here (Windows 7 64bit) to see how it ran - the installer ran, updated
itself, then the program itself refused to run saying "The current database
is not supported by this version of the program. Please download the latest
version". As I just downloaded the latest version, this doesn't fill me
with confidence. I removed it quicker than I installed it, and got rid of
it's droppings with Ccleaner.

I'll stick with Spybot - it works. Neither of the others do, apparently.
So, first of all you can't find the download, now you appear to have
downloaded an old version, probably not from MBAM's site or recommended
link, and you're blaming the software for your problems?

Lol. Anyway, how did you end up installing MyWebSearch in the first place?

The advice you've been given is sound, MBAM *will* get rid of it, if
you're bright enough to download and install it correctly. Plenty of us
are using it under Win7 64, I find it strange that it only appears to
be you having problems.
 
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Emrys Davies

bobster said:
?"Emrys Davies" wrote in message
I have Win7 Home Premium 64 bit and WLM 2009

Just lately my SUPERAntiSpyware Free Edition has been finding a host of
the
above spyware. I quarantine it and Restart, but it shows up again,
instantly. There is nothing in my Installed Programmes or IE toolbar of
a
similar name, but there is 'Fun Web Products install' in Manage Add-ons
and
I have Disabled that. Still it persists. I obviously need a fresh
spyware
detector, but I sense that there will be an answer here. It could be
harmless. Have tried Google. Any ideas?


Mr. Davis,

Here's what I do and I NEVER have any adware or virus problems

1) Download and use Microsoft Security Essentials
2) Turn on the Windows firewall
3) Download Malwarebytes free version. Do a complete scan once per week
4) Download SUPERantispyware free version. Do a complete scan once per
week
5) Keep all of the above plus Windows and Internet Explorer if you use
it. updated regularly

Here's how to uninstall Fun Web Products:

http://help.funwebproducts.com/uninstall/uninstall.html
I have all of these and I do what you advise, except that I have 'avast',
which I like, instead of MSE. Fun Web Products did not show in 'Installed
Programmes' but I got rid of it via 'regedit.exe'. Still little bits of 'My
Web Search'etc. in there, but not sure about them so will leave well alone.
Tread lightly in there unless sure. Thanks a lot.
 
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Emrys Davies

Emrys Davies said:
I have all of these and I do what you advise, except that I have 'avast',
which I like, instead of MSE. Fun Web Products did not show in 'Installed
Programmes' but I got rid of it via 'regedit.exe'. Still little bits of
'My Web Search'etc. in there, but not sure about them so will leave well
alone. Tread lightly in there unless sure. Thanks a lot.
SUPERAntiSpyware repeatedly finds two 'Adware.Tracking Cookie' which have a
large red dot against them. It 'kills' them but they instantly show up. I
now find that if I r.c. them it says 'Always allow item. (Trust Item)'.
Item 2 is: C:Users\Emrys
Davies\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\emrysdavies@atdmtcombing[2].txt
and item 1 is identical, but without the combing. Malwarebytes does not
find these. Just wondered what you think of this.
 
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bobster

?"Emrys Davies" wrote in message

Emrys Davies said:
I have all of these and I do what you advise, except that I have 'avast',
which I like, instead of MSE. Fun Web Products did not show in 'Installed
Programmes' but I got rid of it via 'regedit.exe'. Still little bits of
'My Web Search'etc. in there, but not sure about them so will leave well
alone. Tread lightly in there unless sure. Thanks a lot.
SUPERAntiSpyware repeatedly finds two 'Adware.Tracking Cookie' which have a
large red dot against them. It 'kills' them but they instantly show up. I
now find that if I r.c. them it says 'Always allow item. (Trust Item)'.
Item 2 is: C:Users\Emrys
Davies\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\emrysdavies@atdmtcombing[2].txt
and item 1 is identical, but without the combing. Malwarebytes does not
find these. Just wondered what you think of this.

=====================================================================================================================

Emrys,

I said that I NEVER have any adware using my stated protection. That's not
quite true. I confess that on rare occasions, SUPERantispyware finds a
tracking cookie or two which do not show up on MSE or malwarebytes. I may
go a month or two before I see another tracking cookie which I just ignore
since SAS removes them.
 
F

Flint

Spybot isn't what it used to be. Malwarebytes and Superantispyware are
much better applications.
As a stand-alone, manually invoked detection tool, Spybot is as good
as ever. Not much need for the teatimer.exe under Win7 however, as
UAC does what tea timer does fairly well, and tea timer is definitely
not for non-techie types.

Can't hurt to keep Spybot around ass part of an arsenal or suite of
tools, though.
 
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Emrys Davies

bobster said:
?"Emrys Davies" wrote in message

Emrys Davies said:
I have all of these and I do what you advise, except that I have 'avast',
which I like, instead of MSE. Fun Web Products did not show in
'Installed Programmes' but I got rid of it via 'regedit.exe'. Still
little bits of 'My Web Search'etc. in there, but not sure about them so
will leave well alone. Tread lightly in there unless sure. Thanks a lot.
SUPERAntiSpyware repeatedly finds two 'Adware.Tracking Cookie' which have
a
large red dot against them. It 'kills' them but they instantly show up.
I
now find that if I r.c. them it says 'Always allow item. (Trust Item)'.
Item 2 is: C:Users\Emrys
Davies\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\emrysdavies@atdmtcombing[2].txt
and item 1 is identical, but without the combing. Malwarebytes does not
find these. Just wondered what you think of this.

=====================================================================================================================

Emrys,

I said that I NEVER have any adware using my stated protection. That's
not quite true. I confess that on rare occasions, SUPERantispyware finds
a tracking cookie or two which do not show up on MSE or malwarebytes. I
may go a month or two before I see another tracking cookie which I just
ignore since SAS removes them.
But what I have said is that SAS found and removed two tracking cookies,
quarantined them and when I ran it again, instantly, they were still there.
Try it for yourself.
 
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Nil

But what I have said is that SAS found and removed two tracking
cookies, quarantined them and when I ran it again, instantly, they
were still there. Try it for yourself.
You probably need to close your browser before trying to remove them.
 
B

bobster

?"Emrys Davies" wrote in message

bobster said:
?"Emrys Davies" wrote in message

Emrys Davies said:
I have all of these and I do what you advise, except that I have 'avast',
which I like, instead of MSE. Fun Web Products did not show in
'Installed Programmes' but I got rid of it via 'regedit.exe'. Still
little bits of 'My Web Search'etc. in there, but not sure about them so
will leave well alone. Tread lightly in there unless sure. Thanks a lot.
SUPERAntiSpyware repeatedly finds two 'Adware.Tracking Cookie' which have
a
large red dot against them. It 'kills' them but they instantly show up. I
now find that if I r.c. them it says 'Always allow item. (Trust Item)'.
Item 2 is: C:Users\Emrys
Davies\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\emrysdavies@atdmtcombing[2].txt
and item 1 is identical, but without the combing. Malwarebytes does not
find these. Just wondered what you think of this.

=====================================================================================================================

Emrys,

I said that I NEVER have any adware using my stated protection. That's
not quite true. I confess that on rare occasions, SUPERantispyware finds
a tracking cookie or two which do not show up on MSE or malwarebytes. I
may go a month or two before I see another tracking cookie which I just
ignore since SAS removes them.
But what I have said is that SAS found and removed two tracking cookies,
quarantined them and when I ran it again, instantly, they were still there.
Try it for yourself.


============================================================================================

When SAS does find tracking cookies on my computer, it quarantines/removes
them and it is often a month or so before I see another one -- rarely is it
the same one(s). I have not experienced the situation you describe wherein
the quarantined/removed cookies reappeared instantly.
 
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Emrys Davies

Flint said:
As a stand-alone, manually invoked detection tool, Spybot is as good as
ever. Not much need for the teatimer.exe under Win7 however, as UAC does
what tea timer does fairly well, and tea timer is definitely not for
non-techie types.

Can't hurt to keep Spybot around ass part of an arsenal or suite of tools,
though.
When you click on Spybot does it open a progress bar which says 'Loading
Spybot'? Just making sure that mine is proper. Mine then opens and searches
in the approved fashion. Tried to eradicate 41 baddies, but had this error
appeared: 'Unexpected error in fixing problems (Cannot create file
"C:\Windows\wininit.ini" Access is denied)' then 'You are missing
administrator rights to perform this action. If you need to do this run
this application elevated as an administrator'. I am the Administrator and
the only person who has ever used this new PC. Any ideas.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

When you click on Spybot does it open a progress bar which says 'Loading
Spybot'? Just making sure that mine is proper. Mine then opens and searches
in the approved fashion. Tried to eradicate 41 baddies, but had this error
appeared: 'Unexpected error in fixing problems (Cannot create file
"C:\Windows\wininit.ini" Access is denied)' then 'You are missing
administrator rights to perform this action. If you need to do this run
this application elevated as an administrator'. I am the Administrator and
the only person who has ever used this new PC. Any ideas.
You are almost certainly not *the* Administrator. You are most likely a
regular user with administrator privileges - but that means not all
administrator privileges.

Is your user name Administrator? Probably not.
OTOH, you don't need to log in as Administrator. Just do one of these
things:

1. Right-click on the executable or its shortcut and choose Run as
Administrator to do it once. You would do this each time you run it.

2. Right-click on the executable or its shortcut and choose Properties.
On the Compatibility tab, click on Run this program as an administrator.
OK your way out. You only need to do this once.

Now see how it goes.

Note - you might have to do this with the installer to install
successfully, but I don't really think so.
 
S

SC Tom

Emrys Davies said:
bobster said:
?"Emrys Davies" wrote in message

Emrys Davies said:
?"Emrys Davies" wrote in message

I have Win7 Home Premium 64 bit and WLM 2009

Just lately my SUPERAntiSpyware Free Edition has been finding a host of
the
above spyware. I quarantine it and Restart, but it shows up again,
instantly. There is nothing in my Installed Programmes or IE toolbar
of a
similar name, but there is 'Fun Web Products install' in Manage Add-ons
and
I have Disabled that. Still it persists. I obviously need a fresh
spyware
detector, but I sense that there will be an answer here. It could be
harmless. Have tried Google. Any ideas?


Mr. Davis,

Here's what I do and I NEVER have any adware or virus problems

1) Download and use Microsoft Security Essentials
2) Turn on the Windows firewall
3) Download Malwarebytes free version. Do a complete scan once per
week
4) Download SUPERantispyware free version. Do a complete scan once
per week
5) Keep all of the above plus Windows and Internet Explorer if you use
it. updated regularly

Here's how to uninstall Fun Web Products:

http://help.funwebproducts.com/uninstall/uninstall.html

I have all of these and I do what you advise, except that I have
'avast', which I like, instead of MSE. Fun Web Products did not show in
'Installed Programmes' but I got rid of it via 'regedit.exe'. Still
little bits of 'My Web Search'etc. in there, but not sure about them so
will leave well alone. Tread lightly in there unless sure. Thanks a
lot.
SUPERAntiSpyware repeatedly finds two 'Adware.Tracking Cookie' which
have a
large red dot against them. It 'kills' them but they instantly show up.
I
now find that if I r.c. them it says 'Always allow item. (Trust Item)'.
Item 2 is: C:Users\Emrys
Davies\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\emrysdavies@atdmtcombing[2].txt
and item 1 is identical, but without the combing. Malwarebytes does not
find these. Just wondered what you think of this.

=====================================================================================================================

Emrys,

I said that I NEVER have any adware using my stated protection. That's
not quite true. I confess that on rare occasions, SUPERantispyware finds
a tracking cookie or two which do not show up on MSE or malwarebytes. I
may go a month or two before I see another tracking cookie which I just
ignore since SAS removes them.
But what I have said is that SAS found and removed two tracking cookies,
quarantined them and when I ran it again, instantly, they were still
there. Try it for yourself.
I get the "atdmt" twice and one from "vermontcountrystore" (I shop there
occasionally) in SAS every time I run it, even though those cookies are not
in the folder it says they are. Same as you, I can quarantine them, delete
the quarantines (or not), and rerun SAS and they show up again. Whether or
not IE is open makes no difference. A search through the registry shows
atdmt in the same key as bing, which I have used maybe 3 or 4 times since it
came out.
I don't know why SAS catches it, or where exactly it comes from, but I
haven't had any problems lately, no one has cleared out my bank accounts or
anything else that I'm aware of, so I don't think it's of any consequence.
It just concerns me that when SAS finds them, it says they are in a
particular location that they aren't.
 
E

Emrys Davies

SC Tom said:
Emrys Davies said:
bobster said:
?"Emrys Davies" wrote in message



?"Emrys Davies" wrote in message

I have Win7 Home Premium 64 bit and WLM 2009

Just lately my SUPERAntiSpyware Free Edition has been finding a host
of the
above spyware. I quarantine it and Restart, but it shows up again,
instantly. There is nothing in my Installed Programmes or IE toolbar
of a
similar name, but there is 'Fun Web Products install' in Manage
Add-ons and
I have Disabled that. Still it persists. I obviously need a fresh
spyware
detector, but I sense that there will be an answer here. It could be
harmless. Have tried Google. Any ideas?


Mr. Davis,

Here's what I do and I NEVER have any adware or virus problems

1) Download and use Microsoft Security Essentials
2) Turn on the Windows firewall
3) Download Malwarebytes free version. Do a complete scan once per
week
4) Download SUPERantispyware free version. Do a complete scan once
per week
5) Keep all of the above plus Windows and Internet Explorer if you
use it. updated regularly

Here's how to uninstall Fun Web Products:

http://help.funwebproducts.com/uninstall/uninstall.html

I have all of these and I do what you advise, except that I have
'avast', which I like, instead of MSE. Fun Web Products did not show
in 'Installed Programmes' but I got rid of it via 'regedit.exe'. Still
little bits of 'My Web Search'etc. in there, but not sure about them so
will leave well alone. Tread lightly in there unless sure. Thanks a
lot.

SUPERAntiSpyware repeatedly finds two 'Adware.Tracking Cookie' which
have a
large red dot against them. It 'kills' them but they instantly show up.
I
now find that if I r.c. them it says 'Always allow item. (Trust Item)'.
Item 2 is: C:Users\Emrys
Davies\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies\emrysdavies@atdmtcombing[2].txt
and item 1 is identical, but without the combing. Malwarebytes does not
find these. Just wondered what you think of this.

=====================================================================================================================

Emrys,

I said that I NEVER have any adware using my stated protection. That's
not quite true. I confess that on rare occasions, SUPERantispyware
finds a tracking cookie or two which do not show up on MSE or
malwarebytes. I may go a month or two before I see another tracking
cookie which I just ignore since SAS removes them.
But what I have said is that SAS found and removed two tracking cookies,
quarantined them and when I ran it again, instantly, they were still
there. Try it for yourself.
I get the "atdmt" twice and one from "vermontcountrystore" (I shop there
occasionally) in SAS every time I run it, even though those cookies are
not in the folder it says they are. Same as you, I can quarantine them,
delete the quarantines (or not), and rerun SAS and they show up again.
Whether or not IE is open makes no difference. A search through the
registry shows atdmt in the same key as bing, which I have used maybe 3 or
4 times since it came out.
I don't know why SAS catches it, or where exactly it comes from, but I
haven't had any problems lately, no one has cleared out my bank accounts
or anything else that I'm aware of, so I don't think it's of any
consequence. It just concerns me that when SAS finds them, it says they
are in a particular location that they aren't.
Very enlightening. Thanks. Are you saying that those Tracking Cookies which
I referred to are fairly harmless? Incidentally, I have cleared out
Adware.MyWebSearch\FunWebProducts with the help of Malwarebytes (26 strikes)
and Spybot. I used the latter last of all and it found a further 41 of the
baddies - probably mostly remnants. Shows that all of these Malware
software have a cumulative purpose. I will keep all three after these
experiences.
 
E

Emrys Davies

Gene E. Bloch said:
You are almost certainly not *the* Administrator. You are most likely a
regular user with administrator privileges - but that means not all
administrator privileges.

Is your user name Administrator? Probably not.
OTOH, you don't need to log in as Administrator. Just do one of these
things:

1. Right-click on the executable or its shortcut and choose Run as
Administrator to do it once. You would do this each time you run it.

2. Right-click on the executable or its shortcut and choose Properties.
On the Compatibility tab, click on Run this program as an administrator.
OK your way out. You only need to do this once.

Now see how it goes.

Note - you might have to do this with the installer to install
successfully, but I don't really think so.
Everything you suggested is 'bang-on' and did the trick. Many thanks.
 

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