Why I no Longer Use Windows 7.

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RonB

I am glad you like Linux but most people don't upgrade the OS other than
getting a new Computer.
Obviously, or people wouldn't be using Windows. But as the economy
continues to tank that may change. People may not have the ability to buy
a new Windows computer every other year. They might have to make do with
their "old" computer.
 
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Glenn Hall

Obviously, or people wouldn't be using Windows. But as the economy
continues to tank that may change. People may not have the ability to buy
a new Windows computer every other year. They might have to make do with
their "old" computer.
The economy is having an impact on upgrades not only for home
users but for big companies as well. Also the speed and
practicality limit seems to have been reached. What I mean by that
is we have reached a point where the next and next after that
generation of desktop computers are not really offering any
tangible differences to the end user. How much processing power
does one need to run office, send email and so forth.
Laptops are a little different because advances in size, weight
and battery life are pretty big between generations. This too will
begin to slow down at some point as well.
 
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Bob I

If that was the truth, then way does Linux have less then 5% of the
desktops?
Only reason to "nuke" Windows and install Linutz is that the Windows
installation was pirated, and the user wasn't bright enough to turn in
the pirate business that sold the computer.
 
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Bob I

Obviously, or people wouldn't be using Windows. But as the economy
continues to tank that may change. People may not have the ability to buy
a new Windows computer every other year. They might have to make do with
their "old" computer.
Funny how in the past year with the "economy tanking" Linutz has gone
from 1.00% in November 2009 to 0.85% September 2010. that equates to a
15% drop in installs/usage in 10 months.
(you can track it at "netmarket share")
 
S

Steel

The economy is having an impact on upgrades not only for home
users but for big companies as well. Also the speed and
practicality limit seems to have been reached. What I mean by that
is we have reached a point where the next and next after that
generation of desktop computers are not really offering any
tangible differences to the end user. How much processing power
does one need to run office, send email and so forth.
Laptops are a little different because advances in size, weight
and battery life are pretty big between generations. This too will
begin to slow down at some point as well.
You do know that buying a computer from a business perspective is an
expenditure that can be written off.

I see companies going to Vista and Win 7 as I contract in them. Vista
and Win 7 were big jumps over XP under the hood and they are better
protected O/S(s) than XP.

People can't buy a new computer right now, a whole lot of them, and they
are not going to Linux. If they buy a new computer, they are still not
going to Linux. It's that simple. If they were going to Linux, they (the
masses) would have been using it long ago.

Your bet hinges upon the world economy damn near collapsing, before
Linux is accepted by the masses. It's not going to happen.
 
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Bob I

You do know that buying a computer from a business perspective is an
expenditure that can be written off.

I see companies going to Vista and Win 7 as I contract in them. Vista
and Win 7 were big jumps over XP under the hood and they are better
protected O/S(s) than XP.

People can't buy a new computer right now, a whole lot of them, and they
are not going to Linux. If they buy a new computer, they are still not
going to Linux. It's that simple. If they were going to Linux, they (the
masses) would have been using it long ago.

Your bet hinges upon the world economy damn near collapsing, before
Linux is accepted by the masses. It's not going to happen.
Speaking of economy, over at Dell, the cost to "offer Linutz" is higher
than reloading Windows 7 OEM. Same netbook was 20 bucks cheaper if you
bought it with Windows 7. If you were adamant about having Linutz, it's
cheaper to buy the Win7 one and reload it yourself.
 
C

Clogwog

Doum said:
I use Windows (7) because the programs I use run under Windows.

BTW no problem, no crash, no BSOD, some bugs in one program but nothing to
do with Windows.

In short: A happy windows user, like 90% of desktop computer users
worldwide!
 
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Glenn Hall

Only reason to "nuke" Windows and install Linutz is that the Windows
installation was pirated, and the user wasn't bright enough to turn in
the pirate business that sold the computer.
Linutz?
Never heard of it.
 
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Glenn Hall

You do know that buying a computer from a business perspective is an
expenditure that can be written off.
Of course, but when a company is sturggling to produce product
upgrading their computer systems which may have been upgraded 3
years ago becomes less of a priority.
I see companies going to Vista and Win 7 as I contract in them. Vista
and Win 7 were big jumps over XP under the hood and they are better
protected O/S(s) than XP.
I saw very little movement to Vista but Windows 7 planned upgrades
seem to be doing better.
Still it's much slower than in the past as people and companies
keep their hardware and software longer.
People can't buy a new computer right now, a whole lot of them, and they
are not going to Linux. If they buy a new computer, they are still not
going to Linux. It's that simple. If they were going to Linux, they (the
masses) would have been using it long ago.
That's because Windows is force fed to them and they don't know
any differently.
Linux isn't for everyone but it can do most of what Windows can do
and it can do it with better security and less cost.
Your bet hinges upon the world economy damn near collapsing, before
Linux is accepted by the masses. It's not going to happen.
The world economy almost collapsed last year.
It still may happen.
Whether it will result in people switching to Linux I don't know.
I doubt it though as being able to find food and shelter is going
to be the big problem.
 
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Glenn Hall

In short: A happy windows user, like 90% of desktop computer users
worldwide!
Happy because they are ignorant and don't know any better.
They think constantly rebooting, virus problems and so forth are
normal.
It's like a guy who has been wearing $99.00 suits all his life
and is happy.
Put him in a $1000.00 suit and he will be happier.
 
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RonB

Speaking of economy, over at Dell, the cost to "offer Linutz" is higher
than reloading Windows 7 OEM. Same netbook was 20 bucks cheaper if you
bought it with Windows 7. If you were adamant about having Linutz, it's
cheaper to buy the Win7 one and reload it yourself.
Never used "Linutz" -- you're pet name for Windows 7 Basic, or something?
 
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RonB

The world economy almost collapsed last year. It still may happen.
Whether it will result in people switching to Linux I don't know. I
doubt it though as being able to find food and shelter is going to be
the big problem.
People would just pirate Windows, like they do now. If Microsoft could
really stop people pirating their software, that would be more damaging to
their "market share" than about anything else.
 
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RonB

Funny how in the past year with the "economy tanking" Linutz has gone
from 1.00% in November 2009 to 0.85% September 2010. that equates to a
15% drop in installs/usage in 10 months.
(you can track it at "netmarket share")
If there has been a drop in Linux usage (I doubt it) it's because Asus and
several other netbook manufacturers bowed to Microsoft pressure and turned
their SSD netbooks into small (and more expensive) notebooks. But
basically I think it comes down to "figures don't lie, but liars figure."
 
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RonB

Only reason to "nuke" Windows and install Linutz is that the Windows
installation was pirated, and the user wasn't bright enough to turn in
the pirate business that sold the computer.
Well, that and security... and reliability... and speed... and a superior
update system... and... well, the general superiority of Linux.

Oh, wait a minute, you're talking about "Linutz." You're pet name for
Vista?
 
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Steel

Of course, but when a company is sturggling to produce product
upgrading their computer systems which may have been upgraded 3
years ago becomes less of a priority.
I have not seen one yet. And the companies are moving to newer versions.
I saw very little movement to Vista but Windows 7 planned upgrades
seem to be doing better.
Still it's much slower than in the past as people and companies
keep their hardware and software longer.
I think this is due to the hype of them not knowing the differences
between Vista and Win 7 to the prior open by default versions of the O/S(s0
That's because Windows is force fed to them and they don't know
any differently.
Business is business. If Linux could do the same, which seems it's
trying to do but failing, it would be done using Linux.

Linux isn't for everyone but it can do most of what Windows can do
and it can do it with better security and less cost.
And it's not happening that people are going to Linux in mass.
The world economy almost collapsed last year.
Last year? No I don't think so. The melt-down happened well over a year ago.


It still may happen.
Whether it will result in people switching to Linux I don't know.
I doubt it though as being able to find food and shelter is going
to be the big problem.
I look at things being half full on the positive side.
 
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Steel

Happy because they are ignorant and don't know any better.
They think constantly rebooting, virus problems and so forth are
normal.
It's like a guy who has been wearing $99.00 suits all his life
and is happy.
Put him in a $1000.00 suit and he will be happier.
Linux doesn't cost a $1,000. I think there are a lot of people who are
not ignorant, and they have no need for Linux. If they don't have a need
or want for Linux, it's called freedom of choice. The choose not to use
Linux.
 
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Steel

If there has been a drop in Linux usage (I doubt it) it's because Asus and
several other netbook manufacturers bowed to Microsoft pressure and turned
their SSD netbooks into small (and more expensive) notebooks. But
basically I think it comes down to "figures don't lie, but liars figure."
Make no mistake about it, Ron Bambi is one of the biggest lairs in COLA.
 
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Steel

People would just pirate Windows, like they do now. If Microsoft could
really stop people pirating their software, that would be more damaging to
their "market share" than about anything else.
Yeah, spoken like a true thief. He can run down to WalMart and steal
too. If one can't get it for free, then by all means steal it. I bet he
has picked himself out a nice outfit or two in his thieving lifetime.
 

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