USB Keybord not working until system fully booted

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Allen Drake

And I am unable to enter BIOS. I guess all the new ones are USB and I
might be stuck with this ugly white beast that seems it might come
unplugged any time now. I have searched for a solution but I am not
coming up with anything. Does anyone have any idea what can be done?

TIA.

Al.
 
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Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Allen said:
And I am unable to enter BIOS. I guess all the new ones are USB and I
might be stuck with this ugly white beast that seems it might come
unplugged any time now. I have searched for a solution but I am not
coming up with anything. Does anyone have any idea what can be done?
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Most keyboards come with a PS/2 adapter, if your motherboard still
offers PS/2 mouse and keyboard ports. Try using the PS/2 port instead of
a USB port.

(I use PS/2 ports to free up another USB port.)
 
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SC Tom

Allen Drake said:
And I am unable to enter BIOS. I guess all the new ones are USB and I
might be stuck with this ugly white beast that seems it might come
unplugged any time now. I have searched for a solution but I am not
coming up with anything. Does anyone have any idea what can be done?

TIA.

Al.
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If you can get into BIOS with your "ugly white beast," look for the a USB
Configuration setting. It's usually under Advanced or On-Board Devices or
similar. If there's a setting for USB Legacy Devices, make sure that's
Enabled. Save and Exit. Now your USB keyboard should be recognized early on
boot-up, allowing you to enter BIOS, pick the Boot Menu (if necessary at
times), etc.
 
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Allen Drake

Most keyboards come with a PS/2 adapter, if your motherboard still
offers PS/2 mouse and keyboard ports. Try using the PS/2 port instead of
a USB port.

(I use PS/2 ports to free up another USB port.)
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That's what I thought but not so with any of the many I have
purchased lately. I have several for the mouse in my collection
widgets and Doodads but none for the KB. I will have to look online I
guess.

Al.
 
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Allen Drake

If you can get into BIOS with your "ugly white beast," look for the a USB
Configuration setting. It's usually under Advanced or On-Board Devices or
similar. If there's a setting for USB Legacy Devices, make sure that's
Enabled. Save and Exit. Now your USB keyboard should be recognized early on
boot-up, allowing you to enter BIOS, pick the Boot Menu (if necessary at
times), etc.
Click to expand...

That was the first think I checked. From what I remember I think I
can pin it down to when I started to use dual boot options as this bug
only shows up on the two systems that have that feature. However I do
remember it working right after that when I my first thoughts were to
replace a perhaps poor quality wireless KB. I just bought a wired KB
but it seems they all are USB which brings me full circle. I have
updated drivers so I am pretty sure it is not that. I am using EasyBCD
software which I believe was recommended by someone on this group.
Together with iReboot are two great little free apps. Nothing on their
forum http://neosmart.net/forums/ so I thought I would try my luck
with this rather intelligent crowd.

Al.
 
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Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Allen said:
That's what I thought but not so with any of the many I have
purchased lately. I have several for the mouse in my collection
widgets and Doodads but none for the KB. I will have to look online I
guess.
Click to expand...
They are the same. The mouse adapter should work with the keyboard.
 
M

me again

Allen said:
That was the first think I checked. From what I remember I think I
can pin it down to when I started to use dual boot options as this bug
only shows up on the two systems that have that feature. However I do
remember it working right after that when I my first thoughts were to
replace a perhaps poor quality wireless KB. I just bought a wired KB
but it seems they all are USB
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There are adapters from USB to PS2.
 
S

SC Tom

Allen Drake said:
That was the first think I checked. From what I remember I think I
can pin it down to when I started to use dual boot options as this bug
only shows up on the two systems that have that feature. However I do
remember it working right after that when I my first thoughts were to
replace a perhaps poor quality wireless KB. I just bought a wired KB
but it seems they all are USB which brings me full circle. I have
updated drivers so I am pretty sure it is not that. I am using EasyBCD
software which I believe was recommended by someone on this group.
Together with iReboot are two great little free apps. Nothing on their
forum http://neosmart.net/forums/ so I thought I would try my luck
with this rather intelligent crowd.

Al.
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Whether it's dual boot or not really shouldn't matter. BIOS is accessed long
before either option kicks in. If it's the dual boot option menu that you
can't navigate around, then that's a different issue than entering BIOS.
 
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Paul

Dave said:
They are the same. The mouse adapter should work with the keyboard.
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As far as I know, whether that would work is a function of the keyboard
design. The colored adapter is passive, and the dual mode device does something
to determine the interface type, and then run the appropriate protocol.

There are pictures of adapters here. They're passive and just wires and
connectors to adapt to a different connector. These only work, if the chip
inside the device is dual mode. And you'd know that, if the device *came*
with the adapter. That would be the proof of dual mode. I have two mice
that came with the turquoise-green colored passive adapter, so I know
they're dual mode.

http://electronics.stackexchange.co...way-to-test-if-my-ps-2-usb-adapter-is-passive

There are active adapters for the other direction, USB on the computer
side and PS/2 on the device side. This is the chip used in
the active dual PS/2 to computer USB adapter. When you get a PCI
card with PS/2 connectors on it, the PCI card may have one of these
on it as well.

http://www.chesen.com.tw/download/pc/CSC0101A/R_CSC0101A_160.rar (PDF inside)

(PCI to PS/2, using PCI to USB chip plus Chesen USB to dual PS/2 chip.
It is highly unlikely you can enter the BIOS, using a keyboard connected
to one of these...)

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/15-150-153-S02?$S640$

I've never seen an active device to adapt a USB keyboard to a PS/2 computer.
It could probably be done, but the market for such a function would not
be very big.

*******

As for entering the BIOS, when you have no PS/2 keyboard to do it with,
that could be tough. It all depends on what "BIOS defaults" are present.
If the BIOS defaults included enabling USB legacy support perhaps, then
"clearing CMOS" might put you back in control. If the defaults don't
lean that way, then you may need to borrow a PS/2 keyboard long enough
to experiment with it.

Paul
 
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Paul

Dominique said:
I am using Xnews (a few years old version); I don't know what the setting is to stop wrapping links; mmmh... did I just found it ???
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To stop wrapping on my newsreader, I set the "wrap length" to 1000 characters.
Then, I manually wrap things as I compose them. The option is not in the
regular preferences, and requires using a configuration editor.

Some USENET servers enforce line length, preventing you from posting
if the line length is too long. Exactly why they should be doing this
is unclear. The message header has a maximum length up around a 1000
characters or so, necessary to handle things like reference MIDs for
threading support.

Paul
 
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Yousuf Khan

And I am unable to enter BIOS. I guess all the new ones are USB and I
might be stuck with this ugly white beast that seems it might come
unplugged any time now. I have searched for a solution but I am not
coming up with anything. Does anyone have any idea what can be done?
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Have you tried switching the keyboard to another USB port?

Yousuf Khan
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Have you tried switching the keyboard to another USB port?

Yousuf Khan
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Or fetching an older USB keyboard from the recycle bin before the
collectors take it away.
 
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Sir_George

Dave said:
They are the same. The mouse adapter should work with the keyboard.
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No they aren't the same and you need to have the correct one for either
the mouse, which is pale green or purple for the keyboard.
 
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Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Dave said:
They are the same. The mouse adapter should work with the keyboard.
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I was mistaken. The adapters are different. Sorry. :-(
 
A

Andy

Sometimes they are interchangeable but most times one wont work for the
device other than the one it was designed for:)
 
S

Shoe

Sometimes they are interchangeable but most times one wont work for the
device other than the one it was designed for:)
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I kept an ancient keyboard that is not USB and plugs directly into the
keyboard port on the MB. I use it when I need to get into BIOS when
it is not set up to support USB during boot. I don't know where you
could get your hands on such an old keyboard, but there are certain to
be many of them lying around.
 
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Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Shoe said:
I kept an ancient keyboard that is not USB and plugs directly into
the keyboard port on the MB. I use it when I need to get into BIOS
when it is not set up to support USB during boot. I don't know where
you could get your hands on such an old keyboard, but there are
certain to be many of them lying around.
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My current keyboard (Microsoft Internet Keyboard) has a PS/2 connector.
I've had it for several years, but I hardly consider it "ancient."

I throw keyboards away when the keys get sticky. This one just keeps
going. I'm thinking of running it through the dishwasher to remove the
topsoil.
 
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