recycle bin

[Miles]

Apparently I deleted the recycle bin shortcut on the desktop. How can
it be restored? And how can it be viewed in WinExplorer? (I can't
find it!)

Same applies to Windows temporary files. In XP could simply go to
windows/temp in winexplorer and selectively delete entries. In Win7,
it can't be located.
Miles

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Apparently I deleted the recycle bin shortcut on the desktop. How can
it be restored? And how can it be viewed in WinExplorer? (I can't
find it!)

Have you tried opening Windows Explorer to C:\, right clicking on the
Recycle Bin in the right-hand pin, and choosing Create Shortcut from the
menu?

Works a charm.

Same applies to Windows temporary files. In XP could simply go to
windows/temp in winexplorer and selectively delete entries. In Win7,
it can't be located.
Miles

Maybe you meant windows\temp, since forward slash is not a directory
delimiter in Windows.

Right click on My Computer or Computer and choose Properties. Click on
Advanced Properties, then the advanced tab, and look at the Environment
Variables to find out where temp and tmp are. They might differ in the
two windows on the environment variables panel, so look in both places.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Have you tried opening Windows Explorer to C:\, right clicking on the
Recycle Bin in the right-hand pin, and choosing Create Shortcut from the
menu?

"pin" is a typo for "panel"

Works a charm.

Or it would, except I left out two important details...

In an Explorer window, click on Organize, choose the View tab, and find
the radio buttons for "Hidden Files and Folders". Choose the button to
Show them. Then a few lines below that, uncheck the option to "Hide
protected operating system files".

Sorry, I sometimes forget that not every one has changed the defaults on
those two.

BTW, it would have been more accurate to say "In Win7, *I* (i.e.,
Miles) can't locate it". As I showed you below , it *can* be located...

Maybe you meant windows\temp, since forward slash is not a directory
delimiter in Windows.

Right click on My Computer or Computer and choose Properties. Click on
Advanced Properties, then the advanced tab, and look at the Environment
Variables to find out where temp and tmp are. They might differ in the
two windows on the environment variables panel, so look in both places.

There are other ways to see the environment variables, but too many for
me to wish to list now.

 

[Ray]

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message

Have you tried opening Windows Explorer to C:\, right clicking on the
Recycle Bin in the right-hand pin, and choosing Create Shortcut from the
menu?

"pin" is a typo for "panel"

Works a charm.

Or it would, except I left out two important details...

In an Explorer window, click on Organize, choose the View tab, and find
the radio buttons for "Hidden Files and Folders". Choose the button to
Show them. Then a few lines below that, uncheck the option to "Hide
protected operating system files".

Sorry, I sometimes forget that not every one has changed the defaults on
those two.

BTW, it would have been more accurate to say "In Win7, *I* (i.e.,
Miles) can't locate it". As I showed you below , it *can* be located...

Maybe you meant windows\temp, since forward slash is not a directory
delimiter in Windows.

Right click on My Computer or Computer and choose Properties. Click on
Advanced Properties, then the advanced tab, and look at the Environment
Variables to find out where temp and tmp are. They might differ in the
two windows on the environment variables panel, so look in both places.

There are other ways to see the environment variables, but too many for
me to wish to list now.

 

[Miles]

* Gene E. Bloch wrote, On 10-Sep-11 13:51:

Have you tried opening Windows Explorer to C:\, right clicking on the
Recycle Bin in the right-hand pin, and choosing Create Shortcut from the
menu?

Works a charm.


Maybe you meant windows\temp, since forward slash is not a directory
delimiter in Windows.

Right click on My Computer or Computer and choose Properties. Click on
Advanced Properties, then the advanced tab, and look at the Environment
Variables to find out where temp and tmp are. They might differ in the
two windows on the environment variables panel, so look in both places.

In WinExplorer, in the right hand pane of C drive there is no
mention of recycle bin. Nor in C:/windows. And search does nothing.
However a few weeks ago looking for it I added to the start menu -
"Recycle Bin-R-Clk to Open". Doing that and clicking Open, does open
it and the contents are seen in the right pane. But still have no
idea where it is or how to restore a shortcut to the desktop that
could be moved to the start menu. (if it's in C drive, want to clean
it up before making an image.)

And thanks for the path to Temp -- I see that it's not in C drive, so
presumably don't need to empty it prior to making an image of C -- or
perhaps never cleaning it up as long as there is disk space.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message



"pin" is a typo for "panel"


Or it would, except I left out two important details...

In an Explorer window, click on Organize, choose the View tab, and find
the radio buttons for "Hidden Files and Folders". Choose the button to
Show them. Then a few lines below that, uncheck the option to "Hide
protected operating system files".

Sorry, I sometimes forget that not every one has changed the defaults on
those two.


BTW, it would have been more accurate to say "In Win7, *I* (i.e.,
Miles) can't locate it". As I showed you below , it *can* be located...


There are other ways to see the environment variables, but too many for
me to wish to list now.

Consider typing your reply above the sig delimiter ("--space newline")
so that it doesn't get hidden.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

* Gene E. Bloch wrote, On 10-Sep-11 13:51:
In WinExplorer, in the right hand pane of C drive there is no
mention of recycle bin. Nor in C:/windows. And search does nothing.

Read my second post...

However a few weeks ago looking for it I added to the start menu -
"Recycle Bin-R-Clk to Open". Doing that and clicking Open, does open
it and the contents are seen in the right pane. But still have no
idea where it is or how to restore a shortcut to the desktop that
could be moved to the start menu. (if it's in C drive, want to clean
it up before making an image.)

And thanks for the path to Temp -- I see that it's not in C drive, so
presumably don't need to empty it prior to making an image of C -- or
perhaps never cleaning it up as long as there is disk space.

Temp *is* in the C drive in most instances, and I doubt that your system
is an exception.

 

[Miles]

* Gene E. Bloch wrote, On 10-Sep-11 14:30:

Read my second post...


Temp *is* in the C drive in most instances, and I doubt that your system
is an exception.

Reference was to the recycle bin, not the temp folder.

And I found the recycle bin at the bottom of WinExpl, but right click
doesn't contain anything as to creating a shortcut. Opened it in a
new window and right click and placed shortcut in start menu & now
have it at the top of the start menu in the "preserved" section. That
makes it easier to find & without desktop clutter.

Also find reference to recycle bin in Send To Toys, but it does nothing!

 

[Bob I]

Recycle-Bin view
1. R-Click desktop, Personalize, Change Desktop Icons.
2. Look at the bottom of the "Navigation" or "Folder" panel (left pane)

 

[Joe Morris]

Apparently I deleted the recycle bin shortcut on the desktop. How can it
be restored? And how can it be viewed in WinExplorer? (I can't find it!)

The Recycle bin, among other possible residents of the desktop, is a
creation of Explorer and not a direct link to the folder.

Right-click an unoccupied space on the Desktop; left-click the "Personalize"
item from the context menu. (It's the last line)

In the Personalization window, in the left-hand (navigation) column
left-click "Change desktop icons" to open the Desktop Icon Settings dialog.

In Desktop Icon Settings there are checkboxes for Computer, User's Files,
Network, Recycle Bin, and Control Panel. Adjust the settings as desired,
click OK, and close the Personalization dialog.

Same applies to Windows temporary files. In XP could simply go to
windows/temp in winexplorer and selectively delete entries. In Win7, it
can't be located.

Are you sure that the folder C:\WINDOWS\TEMP exists? Why?

If you are certain that the folder exists, what are its base attributes
(SYSTEM, HIDDEN, READONY)? Open an elevated command prompt window, navigate
to C:\WINDOWS, and use the ATTRIB command to look at the attribute settings
for TEMP. What are they?

And consider the question of what application is placing files in a global
"TEMP" folder and not in the one that's associated with each user profile.
WinXP introduced the private temporary folder in 2001 but there are still
user-level applications that insist on using the (insecure) global folder.


Joe

 

[Miles]

* Joe Morris wrote, On 10-Sep-11 20:40:

The Recycle bin, among other possible residents of the desktop, is a
creation of Explorer and not a direct link to the folder.

Right-click an unoccupied space on the Desktop; left-click the "Personalize"
item from the context menu. (It's the last line)

In the Personalization window, in the left-hand (navigation) column
left-click "Change desktop icons" to open the Desktop Icon Settings dialog.

In Desktop Icon Settings there are checkboxes for Computer, User's Files,
Network, Recycle Bin, and Control Panel. Adjust the settings as desired,
click OK, and close the Personalization dialog.



Are you sure that the folder C:\WINDOWS\TEMP exists? Why?

If you are certain that the folder exists, what are its base attributes
(SYSTEM, HIDDEN, READONY)? Open an elevated command prompt window, navigate
to C:\WINDOWS, and use the ATTRIB command to look at the attribute settings
for TEMP. What are they?

And consider the question of what application is placing files in a global
"TEMP" folder and not in the one that's associated with each user profile.
WinXP introduced the private temporary folder in 2001 but there are still
user-level applications that insist on using the (insecure) global folder.


Joe

As set out originally, I'm attempting to clean out extraneous data
prior to imaging. I find in Win7 most of it exists in
C/users/(username)/app data/local/temp/ and it's 292mb of 811 files.
And in all probability that same folder is seen in Desktop/(user
name)/app data/local/temp (outside of C/ drive).

Considering I just rebooted, presumably all of those files can be
deleted, at least the ones that live in C drive, just as would have
been done in XP to reduce image size. -- and perhaps that will also
eliminate the appearance under Desktop?

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, Joe.

Just FYI (I know you know all this, but the OP and other readers may not):
My Win7 Ultimate does have the C:\Windows\Temp folder, which was created
automatically, not by me. It has NO Attributes set. It does have over
3,000 files and 2,000 directories (folders) holding over 346 MB. Since I
have plenty of free disk space, I haven't worried about cleaning it up. My
Temporary Internet Files are in E:\TempINet, just to get them off Drive C:,
and to make it easier for me to manage.

C:\Windows\Temp does show up in Windows Explorer, but it says I "don't
currently have permission to access this folder" - and I won't pursue the
matter at this time.

Of course, a part of my routine whenever I install Windows is to change
those defaults so that I always see hidden extensions, system files, etc.
I'm surprised that none of the previous posters suggested the Personalize
route to restore the Recycle Bin.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"Joe Morris" wrote in message

Apparently I deleted the recycle bin shortcut on the desktop. How can it
be restored? And how can it be viewed in WinExplorer? (I can't find it!)

The Recycle bin, among other possible residents of the desktop, is a
creation of Explorer and not a direct link to the folder.

Right-click an unoccupied space on the Desktop; left-click the "Personalize"
item from the context menu. (It's the last line)

In the Personalization window, in the left-hand (navigation) column
left-click "Change desktop icons" to open the Desktop Icon Settings dialog.

In Desktop Icon Settings there are checkboxes for Computer, User's Files,
Network, Recycle Bin, and Control Panel. Adjust the settings as desired,
click OK, and close the Personalization dialog.

Same applies to Windows temporary files. In XP could simply go to
windows/temp in winexplorer and selectively delete entries. In Win7, it
can't be located.

Are you sure that the folder C:\WINDOWS\TEMP exists? Why?

If you are certain that the folder exists, what are its base attributes
(SYSTEM, HIDDEN, READONY)? Open an elevated command prompt window, navigate
to C:\WINDOWS, and use the ATTRIB command to look at the attribute settings
for TEMP. What are they?

And consider the question of what application is placing files in a global
"TEMP" folder and not in the one that's associated with each user profile.
WinXP introduced the private temporary folder in 2001 but there are still
user-level applications that insist on using the (insecure) global folder.


Joe

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Reference was to the recycle bin, not the temp folder.

I'll quote from your post just above:
"And thanks for the path to Temp -- I see that it's not in C drive"

BTW, by default, so is the recycle bin. And somehow I doubt that you've
changed that...

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Recycle-Bin view
1. R-Click desktop, Personalize, Change Desktop Icons.
2. Look at the bottom of the "Navigation" or "Folder" panel (left pane)

You make it so easy!

Thanks for the info.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

As set out originally, I'm attempting to clean out extraneous data
prior to imaging. I find in Win7 most of it exists in
C/users/(username)/app data/local/temp/ and it's 292mb of 811 files.
And in all probability that same folder is seen in Desktop/(user
name)/app data/local/temp (outside of C/ drive).

Why do you think that's outside of the C: drive?

BTW, it's C: or even C:\ and not C/

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

I'm surprised that none of the previous posters suggested the Personalize
route to restore the Recycle Bin.

It did appear in the thread eventually

I didn't suggest it because I didn't know about it (or if I ever did, I
had forgotten it). Good reason, no?

 

[Bob I]

You make it so easy!

Thanks for the info.

Welcome. Wonder if R.C.W. kill filed me.

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, Bob.

No, I didn't kill file you - or anyone else. I'm not sure what you are
referring to unless it was about the Personalize option to restore the
Recycle Bin. But this thread got a little tangled and I must have just
missed your suggestion. Sorry about that.

When Win7 (or was it Vista?) was new, there were a LOT of posters with the
problem of the disappearing Recycle Bin. Usually it was because they
right-clicked the bin icon and then - quite understandably - clicked
"Delete". Nowadays it says "Empty Recycle Bin" and we don't hear that
complaint so often. But in this thread, I was watching for the Personalize
option and just didn't see it until Joe's post.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"Bob I" wrote in message

You make it so easy!

Thanks for the info.

Welcome. Wonder if R.C.W. kill filed me.

 

[Bob I]

Hi R.C. White,

Yes I popped that reply off when I read the original. I try not to be
too wordy. Anyway I notice you also dropped your MVP status this year.
For me it was the pain of dealing with the new "Answers forum", you?

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, Bob.

Yep! I love newsgroups, ever since I discovered them about 15 years ago
(after years of BBSes and such). But I just can't get comfy with forums, so
my "production" - so far as Microsoft could see - was practically nil.
Still, the decision to not give me another Award last year was Microsoft's,
not mine. But, as I told them, I'm still doing just what I was doing before
I ever heard of an MVP, and I'll just keep doing it, with or without the MVP
status. (And, yes, I am a wordy one. ;^} )

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"Bob I" wrote in message
Hi R.C. White,

Yes I popped that reply off when I read the original. I try not to be
too wordy. Anyway I notice you also dropped your MVP status this year.
For me it was the pain of dealing with the new "Answers forum", you?