Not just Internet Explorer then...?

[Boscoe]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/7499145/German-government-in-Firefox-warning.html

 

[Joel]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/7499145/German-government-in-Firefox-warning.html

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.6.2-candidates/build3/win32/

Just click on the appropriate language/region (such as en-US) to
download the new version.

Firefox has occasionally had security bugs like this, but nowhere near
on the scale of IE.

 

[Joel]

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3


Hahaha...who are you trying to fool?

You're posting with Thunderbird, rather than WLMail, so who are you
trying to fool? Microsoft makes good products and not-so-good
products. IE is one of the latter - although I do use it specifically
for Facebook, where it has a performance advantage.

 

[LD55ZRA]

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.6.2-candidates/build3/win32/

Just click on the appropriate language/region (such as en-US) to
download the new version.

Firefox has occasionally had security bugs like this, but nowhere near
on the scale of IE.

You could do better with IEEE:

<http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/>

I use Firefox for somethings and IE for others!

 

[Joel]

<---deleted the fruit flies stupid bullshit as a public service-->

Thank you for admitting that you couldn't debate me effectively.

Read'em and weep loser!

http://nsslabs.com/browser-security

Oops!...LOL!

Try getting a year or two of college under your belt, if you think
that has anything to do with this discussion. Social engineering/
phishing != software-bug exploits.

"Oops". Heh.

 

[Joel]

Overwriting OS X seems a rather drastic (and expensive) solution to such
a small glitch. Perhaps the Mac community could have helped. Too late,
now.

I could always put it back on (apparently I could even doctor the OS X
install disk to let it install with an MBR-based dual-boot scheme, and
eliminate the Apple-centric problem I encountered, but I dunno if it's
really worth the effort), but I really didn't care for it that much.
It was a great novelty, but I just prefer Win7.

Curious: If you've been a life-long Windows person, why did you buy a
Mac notebook? A Windows notebook would have been a lot less expensive.

I was very interested in trying out OS X, for one thing (and am glad
to have had the experience). I also knew that even in this scenario
(which I didn't expect, but now has happened), I would probably like
Windows better on an Apple laptop than a typical "PC" laptop. The
keyboard layout, trackpad, etc., are nifty. The only problem I've
encountered has to do with the sound drivers, but it's probably
something I can work around - and isn't a *terribly* significant bug
even as is (the sound does work).

 

[Stefan Patric]

[snip]

Overwriting OS X seems a rather drastic (and expensive) solution to
such a small glitch. Perhaps the Mac community could have helped. Too
late, now.

Not really too late. Apple provides an OS disk which will recreate the
factory state. No activation required

Is the Mac disk a full install one or more like the Windows' CD that uses
a hidden partition on the hard drive to recovery the OS?

Stef

 

[Joel]

Is the Mac disk a full install one or more like the Windows' CD that uses
a hidden partition on the hard drive to recovery the OS?

There are two DVD-ROMs - OS X itself, and an applications disk.
Basically equivalent to a retail copy of Windows, in how it installs
(although it is at least labeled as being specifically for a MacBook
that came with 10.6).

 

[Stefan Patric]

[snip]
Overwriting OS X seems a rather drastic (and expensive) solution to such
a small glitch. Perhaps the Mac community could have helped. Too late,
now.

I could always put it back on (apparently I could even doctor the OS X
install disk to let it install with an MBR-based dual-boot scheme, and
eliminate the Apple-centric problem I encountered, but I dunno if it's
really worth the effort), but I really didn't care for it that much. It
was a great novelty, but I just prefer Win7.

Referring to OS X as a novelty implies a toy, something to play with for
amusement. Most Window-philes just hate OS X on general principles.
You're the first person I've ever talked to who referred to it as "... a
great novelty." What was it about OS X compared to W7 that made it seem
so to you?

I was very interested in trying out OS X, for one thing (and am glad to
have had the experience). I also knew that even in this scenario (which
I didn't expect, but now has happened), I would probably like Windows
better on an Apple laptop than a typical "PC" laptop. The keyboard
layout, trackpad, etc., are nifty. The only problem I've encountered
has to do with the sound drivers, but it's probably something I can work
around - and isn't a *terribly* significant bug even as is (the sound
does work).

Funny. The two things I hate about Mac notebooks is the keyboard (It
just doesn't "feel" right) and the trackpad. Of course, I just hate
trackpads no matter what machine they are on. I must have a heavy touch
or am surrounded by some mysterious force field, probably related to Dark
Matter, that makes them not work worth a damn.

Stef

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

[snip]

Overwriting OS X seems a rather drastic (and expensive) solution to
such a small glitch. Perhaps the Mac community could have helped. Too
late, now.

Not really too late. Apple provides an OS disk which will recreate the
factory state. No activation required

Is the Mac disk a full install one or more like the Windows' CD that uses
a hidden partition on the hard drive to recovery the OS?

Stef

The *real* Windows CD (actually a DVD) is a full installation disk. The
recovery partition is what is provided with computers *by manufacturers*
who are not licensed to provide a Windows installation disc.

The Apple CD is provided by Apple, of course, since all Macs come from
Apple. It is, as I said, an OS disc. I don't recall if it can be used to
repair an installation without losing the owner's work. The backups I
mentioned (and you clipped) will restore the system to exactly where it was
when the backup was made. No surprise there, yes?

 

[Joel]

Referring to OS X as a novelty implies a toy, something to play with for
amusement. Most Window-philes just hate OS X on general principles.
You're the first person I've ever talked to who referred to it as "... a
great novelty." What was it about OS X compared to W7 that made it seem
so to you?

It's a very elegant design, and a fascinating combination of Unix, and
proprietary features. It ran 64-bit in 2 GB RAM easily, whereas I
deliberately chose 32-bit Win7 for the same laptop to fit in 2 GB
effectively. I'm interested in operating systems in general, and even
though I haven't used ones other than Windows heavily (well, not since
my old Apple IIe, as a teenager), hands-on experience is the best way
to get more of an understanding of them.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

[snip]
Overwriting OS X seems a rather drastic (and expensive) solution to such
a small glitch. Perhaps the Mac community could have helped. Too late,
now.

I could always put it back on (apparently I could even doctor the OS X
install disk to let it install with an MBR-based dual-boot scheme, and
eliminate the Apple-centric problem I encountered, but I dunno if it's
really worth the effort), but I really didn't care for it that much. It
was a great novelty, but I just prefer Win7.

Referring to OS X as a novelty implies a toy, something to play with for
amusement. Most Window-philes just hate OS X on general principles.
You're the first person I've ever talked to who referred to it as "... a
great novelty." What was it about OS X compared to W7 that made it seem
so to you?

In English, "novelty" can also just mean "something new". Or not - I won't
speak for Joel

I mention that because your name makes me think that your first language
might be French - and if so, your English is far better than my French,
truth be told.

Funny. The two things I hate about Mac notebooks is the keyboard (It
just doesn't "feel" right) and the trackpad. Of course, I just hate
trackpads no matter what machine they are on. I must have a heavy touch
or am surrounded by some mysterious force field, probably related to Dark
Matter, that makes them not work worth a damn.

In that case, I request that you take this opportunity to solve the mystery
of Dark Matter, since you seem to have a more intimate connection with it
than most astronomers

 

[Stefan Patric]

It's a very elegant design, and a fascinating combination of Unix, and
proprietary features. It ran 64-bit in 2 GB RAM easily, whereas I
deliberately chose 32-bit Win7 for the same laptop to fit in 2 GB
effectively. I'm interested in operating systems in general, and even
though I haven't used ones other than Windows heavily (well, not since
my old Apple IIe, as a teenager), hands-on experience is the best way to
get more of an understanding of them.

Thanks.

Stef

 

[Stefan Patric]

[snip]

It was a great novelty, but I just prefer Win7.

Referring to OS X as a novelty implies a toy, something to play with
for amusement. Most Window-philes just hate OS X on general
principles. You're the first person I've ever talked to who referred to
it as "... a great novelty." What was it about OS X compared to W7
that made it seem so to you?

In English, "novelty" can also just mean "something new". Or not - I
won't speak for Joel

Strictly speaking, you are correct, but when I hear "novelty", I think
knickknack. If Joel had referred to OS X as "novel", I would have
interpreted his statement differently. Such is the way of English.
That's what you get with a language that is a compilation of a half dozen
or so others.

I mention that because your name makes me think that your first language
might be French - and if so, your English is far better than my French,
truth be told.

Nope. Born and raised in the USA. Never studied French. Was fairly
fluent in Spanish and German at one time, but have lost most of it from
lack of use.

Stef

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

[snip]
It was a great novelty, but I just prefer Win7.

Referring to OS X as a novelty implies a toy, something to play with
for amusement. Most Window-philes just hate OS X on general
principles. You're the first person I've ever talked to who referred to
it as "... a great novelty." What was it about OS X compared to W7
that made it seem so to you?

In English, "novelty" can also just mean "something new". Or not - I
won't speak for Joel

Strictly speaking, you are correct, but when I hear "novelty", I think
knickknack. If Joel had referred to OS X as "novel", I would have
interpreted his statement differently. Such is the way of English.
That's what you get with a language that is a compilation of a half dozen
or so others.

To tell the truth, I suspect that most languages will let their speakers do
the same - but I'm not able to understand it outside of English.

I agree, thought, that English's tangled linguistic composition helps a
lot. It definitely helps me when I pun.

Nope. Born and raised in the USA. Never studied French. Was fairly
fluent in Spanish and German at one time, but have lost most of it from
lack of use.

Stef

Your English is *still* better than my French

But it comforts me that there's half a chance that my *French* (although
like your Spanish & German, it's suffering from lack of use) is better than
your French.

Ciao for now.