IE10 for Win7 comments appreciated


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...winston

"pjp" wrote in message
I see I'm being offered IE10 thru update. Any comments from folks?
There's not a lot of difference in IE10 vs. IE9 save the visual style of the Windows elements (scroll bars/tabs more rounded than
square). IE10 on my Win7 unit loads web pages slightly faster, any pages not compatible with IE10 (few for me) operate in
Compatibility mode). A few of those pages that do operate in compatibility mode display with a slightly different text size than
they did in IE9 but not a concern for me since text size is still an available option on the settings icon or menu View tab.

Beyond the above, I'm not seeing anything that stands-out as a problem. It works with all my regular web sites (Home page, Search,
Financial, News, etc.) with one exception...videos on Major League Baseball (dot.com) play fine but seem to take slightly longer
when initially caching the content.

Apart from the visual style of the window’s elements (tabs, scroll bars, …), there’s not a lot of difference. Supposedly IE10 is
faster and leaner than IE9, but I haven’t really noticed. There should be no adverse effect to the upgrade, unless you strongly
dislike the disappearance of the tabs’ rounded corners and of the rounded aspect of the scroll bar handles.
 
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BobbyM

I see I'm being offered IE10 thru update. Any comments from folks?
I think it's a little faster than IE9 but structurally didn't see any
real difference. I've only run across one website where I had to click
the compatibility icon to get the page to load correctly. Been using for
a couple of weeks at work & at home.
 
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Jeff Layman

I see I'm being offered IE10 thru update. Any comments from folks?
Seems OK. I think that the only thing you need be concerned about was
the original requirement to download and install the Windows Update
KB2670838 before installing IE10 on Win7. That update royally screwed
up quite a few computers and has effectively been withdrawn. I believe
that you can now install IE10 on Win7 without needing that WU at all.
 
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123Jim

I see I'm being offered IE10 thru update. Any comments from folks?
We installed it yesterday.
The first webpage visited, a page often visited previously and with no
problems, was broken! (Drop down menus would not work)

We did not think at the time to click the compatibility view button and
years ago we chose not to allow IE to select compatibility view
automatically.

So we rolled back the system to get rid of IE10.

but given the above I guess we'll have another try when it becomes a
critical update, if it is not already.
 
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Buffalo

pjp said:
I see I'm being offered IE10 thru update. Any comments from folks?
My brother installed IE 10 on his Win7HP 64bit system and couldn't connect
to a couple of secure financial sites. He then switched to FF and had no
problem. I had him switch to 64bit mode (Advanced tab, something about
Enhanced)) but he hasn't tried those sites since.
Any ideas why those sites wouldn't load with IE 10 when they worked just
fine with 64bit IE 9.
Buffalo
 
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Val

pjp said:
My brother installed IE 10 on his Win7HP 64bit system and couldn't
connect
to a couple of secure financial sites. He then switched to FF and had
no
problem. I had him switch to 64bit mode (Advanced tab, something about
Enhanced)) but he hasn't tried those sites since.
Any ideas why those sites wouldn't load with IE 10 when they worked
just
fine with 64bit IE 9.
Buffalo
Only site I've accessed that required 'Compatibility mode' is tiscali.co.uk
 
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Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Buffalo said:
My brother installed IE 10 on his Win7HP 64bit system and couldn't
connect to a couple of secure financial sites. He then switched to FF
and had no problem. I had him switch to 64bit mode (Advanced tab,
something about Enhanced)) but he hasn't tried those sites since. Any
ideas why those sites wouldn't load with IE 10 when they worked just
fine with 64bit IE 9.
I have IE 10 installed in my Windows 7 Ultimate x64 machine, and I am
able to log on to two banks and one stock trading account with no problem.
 
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s|b

My brother installed IE 10 on his Win7HP 64bit system and couldn't connect
to a couple of secure financial sites. He then switched to FF and had no
problem. I had him switch to 64bit mode (Advanced tab, something about
Enhanced))
Internet Options > Advanced > Security > [v] Enable Enhanced Protected
Mode
 
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Buffalo

s|b said:
My brother installed IE 10 on his Win7HP 64bit system and couldn't
connect
to a couple of secure financial sites. He then switched to FF and had no
problem. I had him switch to 64bit mode (Advanced tab, something about
Enhanced))
Internet Options > Advanced > Security > [v] Enable Enhanced Protected
Mode
Well, I talked to him and it now works in compatibility mode on those sites
he couldn't get. Not sure if switching to Enabke Enhanced Protected Mode
made a difference or not.
Anyways, he's got it working and thanks for the comments.
Buffalo
 
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Buffalo

Buffalo said:
s|b said:
My brother installed IE 10 on his Win7HP 64bit system and couldn't
connect
to a couple of secure financial sites. He then switched to FF and had no
problem. I had him switch to 64bit mode (Advanced tab, something about
Enhanced))
Internet Options > Advanced > Security > [v] Enable Enhanced Protected
Mode
Well, I talked to him and it now works in compatibility mode on those
sites he couldn't get. Not sure if switching to Enabke Enhanced Protected
Mode made a difference or not.
Anyways, he's got it working and thanks for the comments.
Buffalo
I'm sure it was the "Enabke" one that did it. :)
Buffalo
 
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Robin Bignall

My brother installed IE 10 on his Win7HP 64bit system and couldn't connect
to a couple of secure financial sites. He then switched to FF and had no
problem. I had him switch to 64bit mode (Advanced tab, something about
Enhanced))
Internet Options > Advanced > Security > [v] Enable Enhanced Protected
Mode
I do not see that item in IE10.
 
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Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Robin said:
My brother installed IE 10 on his Win7HP 64bit system and
couldn't connect to a couple of secure financial sites. He then
switched to FF and had no problem. I had him switch to 64bit mode
(Advanced tab, something about Enhanced))
Internet Options > Advanced > Security > [v] Enable Enhanced
Protected Mode
I do not see that item in IE10.
It's there. "Internet options>Advanced" opens a list of check boxes.
"Security" is
the last category within that list, and "Enable Enhanced Protected Mode"
is the
12th check box in that category.
 
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BobbyM

Robin said:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:43:52 -0500, Buffalo wrote:

My brother installed IE 10 on his Win7HP 64bit system and
couldn't connect to a couple of secure financial sites. He then
switched to FF and had no problem. I had him switch to 64bit mode
(Advanced tab, something about Enhanced))
Internet Options > Advanced > Security > [v] Enable Enhanced
Protected Mode
I do not see that item in IE10.
It's there. "Internet options>Advanced" opens a list of check boxes.
"Security" is
the last category within that list, and "Enable Enhanced Protected Mode"
is the
12th check box in that category.
It's called "Integrated Windows Authentication" on IE10 on my machine.
 
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...winston

"Robin Bignall" wrote in message
Internet Options > Advanced > Security > [v] Enable Enhanced Protected
Mode
I do not see that item in IE10.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2012/03/14/enhanced-protected-mode.aspx

It's present for IE on 64 bit Windows but not on 32 bit Windows
You can read more about it here

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ieinternals/archive/2012/03/23/understanding-ie10-enhanced-protected-mode-network-security-addons-cookies-metro-desktop.aspx
 
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...winston

"BobbyM" wrote in message (about IE Enhanced Protected Mode)...
It's called "Integrated Windows Authentication" on IE10 on my machine.
No it's not. Enhanced Protected Mode and Integrated Windows Authentication are two unique and different features.

Integrated Windows Authentication:
cf. https://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/WindowsServer2003/Library/IIS/523ae943-5e6a-4200-9103-9808baa00157.mspx
<qp>
With Integrated Windows authentication (formerly called NTLM, and also known as Windows NT Challenge/Response authentication), the
user name and password (credentials) are hashed before being sent across the network. When you enable Integrated Windows
authentication, the client browser proves its knowledge of the password through a cryptographic exchange with your Web server,
involving hashing.
</qp>
Enhanced Protected Mode
cf. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2012/03/14/enhanced-protected-mode.aspx
<qp>
...feature that helps prevent attackers from installing software or modifying system settings if they manage to run exploit code. It
is an extra layer of protection that locks down parts of your system that your browser ordinarily doesn’t need to use
</qp>
 
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BobbyM

"BobbyM" wrote in message (about IE Enhanced Protected Mode)...


No it's not. Enhanced Protected Mode and Integrated Windows
Authentication are two unique and different features.

Integrated Windows Authentication:
cf.
https://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/WindowsServer2003/Library/IIS/523ae943-5e6a-4200-9103-9808baa00157.mspx

<qp>
With Integrated Windows authentication (formerly called NTLM, and also
known as Windows NT Challenge/Response authentication), the user name
and password (credentials) are hashed before being sent across the
network. When you enable Integrated Windows authentication, the client
browser proves its knowledge of the password through a cryptographic
exchange with your Web server, involving hashing.
</qp>
Enhanced Protected Mode
cf.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2012/03/14/enhanced-protected-mode.aspx
<qp>
..feature that helps prevent attackers from installing software or
modifying system settings if they manage to run exploit code. It is an
extra layer of protection that locks down parts of your system that your
browser ordinarily doesn’t need to use
</qp>
Thanks for the clarification but it's still the 12th item on the list in
my 32bit version of IE10.
 
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Robin Bignall

Thanks for the clarification but it's still the 12th item on the list in
my 32bit version of IE10.
Not on mine. It does not appear at all.
 
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...winston

"Robin Bignall" wrote in message news:[email protected]
According to Winston it's a 64-bit IE10 feature.
Correct <g>

EPM is available (as a configurable option) on

Windows 7 64 bit IE10
Windows 8 64 bit IE10 (IE10 Desktop mode)

EPM is the default mode on Windows 8 64 bit when using IE10 Modern UI browser


There is a difference on Windows 7 64 bit IE10 vs. Windows 8 64 bit IE10(Desktop) when using the EPM mode
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ieinternals/archive/2012/03/23/understanding-ie10-enhanced-protected-mode-network-security-addons-cookies-metro-desktop.aspx
<qp>
In the upcoming Internet Explorer 10 on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008R2, the only thing that enabling Enhanced Protected Mode
does is turn on 64bit Content Processes. But, when running on Windows 8, the EPM option provides even more security by also causing
the sandboxed Content Process to run in a new process isolation feature called “AppContainer.â€
</qp>
 

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