adaoes Win 8 have the same file setup as Win 7?

[Mick]

Hi all,
Am using a Desktop Computer system.
AMD Phenom (tm) II X 4 965 Processor 3.40 GHz ASRock 96OGM- GS3 FX
Motherboard 6GB DDR3 1333Mhz DRAM ATI HD 5670 51MB GDDR5 DVI VGA HDMI
Out Graphics Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 bit Operating System.

I use Brother Keeper 6.6.4 Family Tree program on it.

I want to get a new Laptop and looked for a new basic one with that
had Win
7 64 Bit operating system on it, so I would be sure the Brother Keeper
Family Tree program would work the same on it.

Only to find all new Laptops have Win 8 on them.
Is the file structure or path the same in 8 as 7?
Sorry if I have not explained this clearly enough, I'm struggling to
explain it.
Thanks,
Mick, IOW

 

[Ed Cryer]

Hi all,
Am using a Desktop Computer system.
AMD Phenom (tm) II X 4 965 Processor 3.40 GHz ASRock 96OGM- GS3 FX
Motherboard 6GB DDR3 1333Mhz DRAM ATI HD 5670 51MB GDDR5 DVI VGA HDMI
Out Graphics Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 bit Operating System.

I use Brother Keeper 6.6.4 Family Tree program on it.

I want to get a new Laptop and looked for a new basic one with that
had Win
7 64 Bit operating system on it, so I would be sure the Brother Keeper
Family Tree program would work the same on it.

Only to find all new Laptops have Win 8 on them.
Is the file structure or path the same in 8 as 7?
Sorry if I have not explained this clearly enough, I'm struggling to
explain it.
Thanks,
Mick, IOW

I fully understand; even if you don't -

I think you'll find Win8 on all new laptops and desktops. It's a fair
enough OS, very like Win7 once you get past the first screen with all
the icons for tablets and touch screens.

You have the latest version of that family tree program, and, according
to this page here (http://www.bkwin.org/), it works fine on Win8.

Ed

 

[Paul]

Hi all,
Am using a Desktop Computer system.
AMD Phenom (tm) II X 4 965 Processor 3.40 GHz ASRock 96OGM- GS3 FX
Motherboard 6GB DDR3 1333Mhz DRAM ATI HD 5670 51MB GDDR5 DVI VGA HDMI
Out Graphics Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 bit Operating System.

I use Brother Keeper 6.6.4 Family Tree program on it.

I want to get a new Laptop and looked for a new basic one with that
had Win
7 64 Bit operating system on it, so I would be sure the Brother Keeper
Family Tree program would work the same on it.

Only to find all new Laptops have Win 8 on them.
Is the file structure or path the same in 8 as 7?
Sorry if I have not explained this clearly enough, I'm struggling to
explain it.
Thanks,
Mick, IOW

I don't pretend to fully understand what's here, or why this should
work, but it appears you have options. If the machine comes with
Windows 8 and it doesn't suit your purpose, the license key might
still be useful for something, a downgrade.

http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/licensing/sblicensing/pages/downgrade_rights.aspx#fbid=u-4mdg9_rkC

Paul

 

[Mick]

I fully understand; even if you don't -

I think you'll find Win8 on all new laptops and desktops. It's a fair
enough OS, very like Win7 once you get past the first screen with all
the icons for tablets and touch screens.

You have the latest version of that family tree program, and, according
to this page here (http://www.bkwin.org/), it works fine on Win8.

Ed

Hi Ed,
Thank you I now understand and did look at the web site too.
Mick, IOW

 

[Ed Cryer]

I don't pretend to fully understand what's here, or why this should
work, but it appears you have options. If the machine comes with
Windows 8 and it doesn't suit your purpose, the license key might
still be useful for something, a downgrade.

http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/licensing/sblicensing/pages/downgrade_rights.aspx#fbid=u-4mdg9_rkC


Paul

It would be interesting to have figures for how many choose that option.
If it were me I certainly wouldn't do it.
I find it hard to express my whys, but they're in the area of "too much
effort for *losing* something rather than *gaining*".

Maybe there are a few in this group whose dislike of Win8 might drive
them to it. But I wouldn't recommend it for anybody who's not got lots
of time on their hands, plus a good computer literacy racing.

Ed

 

[Paul]

It would be interesting to have figures for how many choose that option.
If it were me I certainly wouldn't do it.
I find it hard to express my whys, but they're in the area of "too much
effort for *losing* something rather than *gaining*".

Maybe there are a few in this group whose dislike of Win8 might drive
them to it. But I wouldn't recommend it for anybody who's not got lots
of time on their hands, plus a good computer literacy racing.

Ed

That option would be for someone who is dropped into a Metro
screen once too often.

For someone who doesn't want to give any personal information
to the Microsoft App Store. (For example, to get their
*free* copy of Solitaire, which would normally be installed
already for you on an older OS.)

Who is happy with the legacy way that the previous
Microsoft operating systems worked.

It's not that hard to understand.

I don't mind configuring some software, so it doesn't get
in my face. When Firefox introduced the Awesome bar, I
didn't think it was that awesome, and I've used "Old Location Bar"
for eons since. If "Old Location Bar" had not been available,
at the time I might have seriously considered ditching
Firefox.

Metro can be "tamed", but it's always ready to spring into
action. Only the knowledge the subsystem was completely
disabled, would satisfy me in terms of being able to
configure it. While ClassicShell is a nice dodge, there
is still the possibility of Metro showing up, when it is
least wanted. If I lose a microsecond of productivity when
I'm busy (i.e. doing actual work), that would gnaw away
at my innards, as a "personal failing".

So that would be my incentive to downgrade.

Paul

 

[Ed Cryer]

That option would be for someone who is dropped into a Metro
screen once too often.

For someone who doesn't want to give any personal information
to the Microsoft App Store. (For example, to get their
*free* copy of Solitaire, which would normally be installed
already for you on an older OS.)

Who is happy with the legacy way that the previous
Microsoft operating systems worked.

It's not that hard to understand.

I don't mind configuring some software, so it doesn't get
in my face. When Firefox introduced the Awesome bar, I
didn't think it was that awesome, and I've used "Old Location Bar"
for eons since. If "Old Location Bar" had not been available,
at the time I might have seriously considered ditching
Firefox.

Metro can be "tamed", but it's always ready to spring into
action. Only the knowledge the subsystem was completely
disabled, would satisfy me in terms of being able to
configure it. While ClassicShell is a nice dodge, there
is still the possibility of Metro showing up, when it is
least wanted. If I lose a microsecond of productivity when
I'm busy (i.e. doing actual work), that would gnaw away
at my innards, as a "personal failing".

So that would be my incentive to downgrade.

Paul

PC Pro like it; and they've updated all their office desktops, and no
one's gone back yet.

Verdict

Is upgrading to Windows 8 a no-brainer for those running Windows 7 on
PCs and laptops? No, far from it. The vast majority of the work has been
devoted to the new Metro interface, and that’s the part that’s least
compelling on regular PCs. Navigation is awkward and few Metro apps
scale well on large screens.

That said, there are several excellent new features in Windows 8 for
desktop users: File History, integrated antivirus, the revamped Task
Manager, SkyDrive integration, native support for VMs and much improved
boot times. But does all that add up to anything more than we’d expect
from a Service Pack? Hardly. Does it justify paying $40 for an upgrade?
Again, it’s a borderline case. For businesses, we see no compelling
reason to upgrade at all and suspect Windows 8 will join Vista on the
Mary Celeste of forgotten operating systems.

In conclusion, Windows 8 has relatively little to offer those who do
their computing on a desktop or laptop PC. This isn’t a terrible thing –
Windows 7 wasn’t exactly broken to begin with – but it means that
upgrading to Windows 8 is far from essential. We’ve all upgraded in the
PC Pro office, and no one’s gone back yet, but it simply isn’t the
must-have advance we were hoping for when development began.
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/software/376540/windows-8-for-desktops-and-laptops/2

Ed

 

[Wolf K]

It would be interesting to have figures for how many choose [to downgrade from W-8]
If it were me I certainly wouldn't do it.
I find it hard to express my whys, but they're in the area of "too
much effort for *losing* something rather than *gaining*".

Maybe there are a few in this group whose dislike of Win8 might drive
them to it. But I wouldn't recommend it for anybody who's not got lots
of time on their hands, plus a good computer literacy racing.

Ed

Paul answered:
That option would be for someone who is dropped into a Metro
screen once too often. [...]

I understand that Classic Shell works with W-8. If so, you should never
see Metro unless you choose it.

IMO, MS should offer three options via Personalize:
a) Keep Metro as the default UI (ie, no change), but make it easier to
get the desktop (e.g., a Desktop button next to the min/max/close
buttons in every app title bar).
b) Boot into a desktop of user's choice (W-7 or Classic), with a
non-removable Metro icon on the taskbar for easy switching to it;
c) Disable Metro, and boot into desktop of user's choice.

That should keep at least 51% of us happy.

 

[Ken Blake]

I understand that Classic Shell works with W-8. If so, you should never
see Metro unless you choose it.

The free Classic Shell works fine. But in my view, Start8, which costs
only $5 US, is even better.