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Don
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      06-10-2011
I am contemplating upgrading my machine from Windows XP Pro to Windows 7
Pro 64 bit. I have a legacy video capture devices (Plextor 402U) with
no Windows Vista/7 support. Question is, could I install the drivers
and software under XP mode, and would it work?

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Ken Blake
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      06-10-2011
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:40:11 -0400, Don <> wrote:

> I am contemplating upgrading my machine from Windows XP Pro to Windows 7
> Pro 64 bit. I have a legacy video capture devices (Plextor 402U) with
> no Windows Vista/7 support. Question is, could I install the drivers
> and software under XP mode, and would it work?



It should work, but bear in mind that an upgrade us not possible. The
only way to get from XP to Windows 7 is by a clean installation (or a
two-step upgrade--first to Vista, then to Windows 7--which I do *not*
recommend).

Also is your hardware adequate for Windows 7? Most XP-era machines are
not. Tell us what the configuration is.

And finally, do you realize that you can install 64-bit Windows 7,
only if have a 64-bit motherboard and CPU? Again, most XP-era machines
do not.
 
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      06-10-2011
Don wrote:
> I am contemplating upgrading my machine from Windows XP Pro to Windows 7
> Pro 64 bit. I have a legacy video capture devices (Plextor 402U) with
> no Windows Vista/7 support. Question is, could I install the drivers
> and software under XP mode, and would it work?
>
> Thanks


http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...84(WS.10).aspx

"Scenario 2: Use a USB device in a virtual machine

Windows Virtual PC supports the use of USB 2.0 devices, either by
sharing the device or by redirecting the device to the virtual machine.
The method you use depends on which type of USB device you want to use.
When integration features are installed and enabled in the guest
operating system, storage devices and smart card readers are automatically
shared with virtual machines on a physical computer. No additional steps
are required to use these types of USB devices. (Integration features
are enabled by default when you install them, but you can disable them
from the Action menu.)

For other types of devices, you can use them by attaching them to the
virtual machine. For example, you can attach the following types of USB devices:

* Digital cameras
* USB CD writer/reader
* MP3 players
* Phone/PDA/mobile device
* WebCam/video camera
* Wireless network adapters

To attach a USB device to a virtual machine

1. Attach the device to the physical computer and turn on the device.
2. From the virtual machine window, click USB and then click Attach-device name.
3. Windows looks for and tries to install the device driver in the guest operating
system. You can install the driver from the Internet or from a CD.
4. After the driver is installed, you can use the USB device from within the
virtual machine the same way as you would on a physical computer. However,
USB devices that are connected using these steps are not shared, so they
must be released from one operating system to be available for use on
the other operating system.
5. To make the USB device available on the host operating system, release it
from the virtual machine. From the virtual machine window, click USB and
then click Release device name."

So it sounds like, unlike VirtualPC 2007, the current generation supports
USB attach like VirtualBox does. It would give you one more way to *try* to
get it to work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7

"A new version of Microsoft Virtual PC, newly renamed as Windows Virtual PC
was made available for Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate editions."

Paul
 
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      06-12-2011

"Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:40:11 -0400, Don <> wrote:
>
>> I am contemplating upgrading my machine from Windows XP Pro to Windows 7
>> Pro 64 bit. I have a legacy video capture devices (Plextor 402U) with
>> no Windows Vista/7 support. Question is, could I install the drivers
>> and software under XP mode, and would it work?

>
>
> It should work, but bear in mind that an upgrade us not possible. The
> only way to get from XP to Windows 7 is by a clean installation (or a
> two-step upgrade--first to Vista, then to Windows 7--which I do *not*
> recommend).
>
> Also is your hardware adequate for Windows 7? Most XP-era machines are
> not. Tell us what the configuration is.
>
> And finally, do you realize that you can install 64-bit Windows 7,
> only if have a 64-bit motherboard and CPU? Again, most XP-era machines
> do not.


64-bit machines have been around for 7 or 8 years. What do you consider
XP-era machines?

 
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      06-12-2011
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:58:47 -0400, "KCB" <>
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> "Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:40:11 -0400, Don <> wrote:
> >
> >> I am contemplating upgrading my machine from Windows XP Pro to Windows 7
> >> Pro 64 bit. I have a legacy video capture devices (Plextor 402U) with
> >> no Windows Vista/7 support. Question is, could I install the drivers
> >> and software under XP mode, and would it work?

> >
> >
> > It should work, but bear in mind that an upgrade us not possible. The
> > only way to get from XP to Windows 7 is by a clean installation (or a
> > two-step upgrade--first to Vista, then to Windows 7--which I do *not*
> > recommend).
> >
> > Also is your hardware adequate for Windows 7? Most XP-era machines are
> > not. Tell us what the configuration is.
> >
> > And finally, do you realize that you can install 64-bit Windows 7,
> > only if have a 64-bit motherboard and CPU? Again, most XP-era machines
> > do not.

>
> 64-bit machines have been around for 7 or 8 years. What do you consider
> XP-era machines?




Sigh. XP-era machines are those that were sold during the period when
the current version of Windows was XP. Regardless of how long 64-bit
machines have been available, in the XP era, they were rare. I didn't
have one then, and most of us didn't either.
 
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R. C. White
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      06-13-2011
Hi, Ken.

> Regardless of how long 64-bit machines have been available, in the XP
> era, they were rare. I didn't have one then, and most of us didn't either.


Right. WinXP went on sale in October 2001. But Windows XP 64-bit Edition
did not arrive until about 2005. I got my first 64-bit motherboard/CPU in
July 2004 and WinXP x64 was still considered beta, almost. It still was not
really stable - for me - until about the time that Vista "went gold" in
November 2006. Norton Internet Security 2005 never did get updated to
64-bit; my subscription expired while I was waiting for 64-bit - and NIS
2006 didn't promise 64-bit support, either, so I never bought that version.
Drivers for 64-bit WinXP/Vista were still scarce items until some time after
Vista went on sale to the public in early 2007. I've used 64-bit Vista/Win7
exclusively (almost) since December 2006.

RC
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Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3508.1109) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"Ken Blake" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:58:47 -0400, "KCB" <>
wrote:

> "Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:40:11 -0400, Don <> wrote:
> >
> >> I am contemplating upgrading my machine from Windows XP Pro to Windows
> >> 7
> >> Pro 64 bit. I have a legacy video capture devices (Plextor 402U) with
> >> no Windows Vista/7 support. Question is, could I install the drivers
> >> and software under XP mode, and would it work?

> >
> >
> > It should work, but bear in mind that an upgrade us not possible. The
> > only way to get from XP to Windows 7 is by a clean installation (or a
> > two-step upgrade--first to Vista, then to Windows 7--which I do *not*
> > recommend).
> >
> > Also is your hardware adequate for Windows 7? Most XP-era machines are
> > not. Tell us what the configuration is.
> >
> > And finally, do you realize that you can install 64-bit Windows 7,
> > only if have a 64-bit motherboard and CPU? Again, most XP-era machines
> > do not.

>
> 64-bit machines have been around for 7 or 8 years. What do you consider
> XP-era machines?



Sigh. XP-era machines are those that were sold during the period when
the current version of Windows was XP. Regardless of how long 64-bit
machines have been available, in the XP era, they were rare. I didn't
have one then, and most of us didn't either.

 
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      06-13-2011
On 06/10/2011 09:40 AM, Don wrote:
> I am contemplating upgrading my machine from Windows XP Pro to Windows 7
> Pro 64 bit. I have a legacy video capture devices (Plextor 402U) with no
> Windows Vista/7 support. Question is, could I install the drivers and
> software under XP mode, and would it work?
>
> Thanks


Don't know about "video capture" in XP mode. I suspect it will
give you a hassle.

To find out if/how your machines runs under 64 bit, download
and burn this ISO and boot off it. It is a 64 bit Linux Live
CD. It will bitch if you can not run 64 bit.

http://download.fedoraproject.org/pu...-Live-XFCE.iso

You may wish to just purchase a new computer to run W7. Remember
that you have to get one that is at least twice as fast as
your XP machine to get the same performance out of it that
you got from XP. W7 is arguable 80% slower than XP. And be
prepared for a lot of crashing you did not get in XP: W7 is
about 10 times as unstable as XP. And, and, be prepared to
have to purchase all new software. Most old non-M$ authored
software for XP has troubles in W7.

Hth somewhat,
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      06-13-2011
On 6/12/2011 11:58 PM, Todd wrote:
> Most old non-M$ authored
> software for XP has troubles in W7.


While some older and poorly written newer software can have problems,
most software applications intended for XP can be used in Win 7. That's
not to say that there can be various problems to surmount to get it to
run properly. Generally, if the software truly followed the conventions
for XP, It will run. At one point, we even were successful in running
QBasic programs that did some things that "are not supported" in XP, let
alone Win 7.
The single largest problem we found had to do with
directory/subdirectory names, length of the names, and complex directory
trees. We also tried such things as a Lotus version that would run on
XP, but was intended for an earlier windows version.

What will likely not run (and may not even "install") - - any software
that expects to do direct i/o.

 
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      06-14-2011
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:58:33 -0700, Todd <> wrote:

>You may wish to just purchase a new computer to run W7. Remember
>that you have to get one that is at least twice as fast as
>your XP machine to get the same performance out of it that
>you got from XP. W7 is arguable 80% slower than XP. And be
>prepared for a lot of crashing you did not get in XP: W7 is
>about 10 times as unstable as XP. And, and, be prepared to
>have to purchase all new software. Most old non-M$ authored
>software for XP has troubles in W7.


You REALLY have a bad impression of Windows 7.

My own experiences, which aren't any more valuable than yours, are
very, VERY, different.

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      06-14-2011
On 6/13/2011, Char Jackson posted:
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:58:33 -0700, Todd <> wrote:


>> You may wish to just purchase a new computer to run W7. Remember
>> that you have to get one that is at least twice as fast as
>> your XP machine to get the same performance out of it that
>> you got from XP. W7 is arguable 80% slower than XP. And be
>> prepared for a lot of crashing you did not get in XP: W7 is
>> about 10 times as unstable as XP. And, and, be prepared to
>> have to purchase all new software. Most old non-M$ authored
>> software for XP has troubles in W7.


> You REALLY have a bad impression of Windows 7.


> My own experiences, which aren't any more valuable than yours, are
> very, VERY, different.


Same here.

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