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Alonso
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      08-10-2011
1. Yesterday I've installed a large set of windows7 updates (14 items). It
seems to me, windows loads a bit slower after all these updates. I that
possible?

2. How to configure windows 7 load only *necessary* services and
applications, to save resources? Is there some handy application alowing
configure only necessary windows services and processes? Since I dont know
what exactly processes and services is necessary for windows and what - not,
I need some utility that can configure that. I only need services necessary
for Skype and Antivirus program in normal mode I use windows.

thanks for help.

 
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      08-10-2011
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:47:44 +0300, "Alonso"
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> 1. Yesterday I've installed a large set of windows7 updates (14 items). It
> seems to me, windows loads a bit slower after all these updates. I that
> possible?




Possible? Yes. But it's unlikely that it's significant.

My personal view is that the attention many people pay to how long it
takes to boot is unwarranted. Assuming that the computer's speed is
otherwise satisfactory, it is not generally worth worrying about. Most
people start their computers once a day or even less frequently. In
the overall scheme of things, even a few minutes to start up isn't
very important. Personally I power on my computer when I get up in the
morning, then go get my coffee. When I come back, it's done booting. I
don't know how long it took to boot and I don't care.



> 2. How to configure windows 7 load only *necessary* services and
> applications, to save resources? Is there some handy application alowing
> configure only necessary windows services and processes? Since I dont know
> what exactly processes and services is necessary for windows and what - not,
> I need some utility that can configure that. I only need services necessary
> for Skype and Antivirus program in normal mode I use windows.



I strongly recommend that you do *not* do this. Yes, it's possible,
but what you can save is very small, and the likelihood of your
screwing something up is great.
 
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Alonso
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      08-10-2011

"Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:47:44 +0300, "Alonso"
> <> wrote:
>
>> 1. Yesterday I've installed a large set of windows7 updates (14 items).
>> It
>> seems to me, windows loads a bit slower after all these updates. I that
>> possible?

>
>
>
> Possible? Yes. But it's unlikely that it's significant.
>
> My personal view is that the attention many people pay to how long it
> takes to boot is unwarranted. Assuming that the computer's speed is
> otherwise satisfactory, it is not generally worth worrying about. Most
> people start their computers once a day or even less frequently. In
> the overall scheme of things, even a few minutes to start up isn't
> very important. Personally I power on my computer when I get up in the
> morning, then go get my coffee. When I come back, it's done booting. I
> don't know how long it took to boot and I don't care.
>
>
>
>> 2. How to configure windows 7 load only *necessary* services and
>> applications, to save resources? Is there some handy application alowing
>> configure only necessary windows services and processes? Since I dont
>> know
>> what exactly processes and services is necessary for windows and what -
>> not,
>> I need some utility that can configure that. I only need services
>> necessary
>> for Skype and Antivirus program in normal mode I use windows.

>
>
> I strongly recommend that you do *not* do this. Yes, it's possible,
> but what you can save is very small, and the likelihood of your
> screwing something up is great.

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can no agree with fact that boot loading time isn't important. My Dell
vostro 1520 laptop booted fast before upgrades, and I never even focused on
that, usually I turn my laptop a few times per day..
There was a vaste quantity of updates for .NET Framework software, can this
software cause slow down? Dont know what is necessity of this software at
all.

 
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Bruce Hagen
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      08-10-2011

"Alonso" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:47:44 +0300, "Alonso"
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Yesterday I've installed a large set of windows7 updates (14
>>> items). It
>>> seems to me, windows loads a bit slower after all these updates. I
>>> that
>>> possible?

>>
>>
>>
>> Possible? Yes. But it's unlikely that it's significant.
>>
>> My personal view is that the attention many people pay to how long it
>> takes to boot is unwarranted. Assuming that the computer's speed is
>> otherwise satisfactory, it is not generally worth worrying about. Most
>> people start their computers once a day or even less frequently. In
>> the overall scheme of things, even a few minutes to start up isn't
>> very important. Personally I power on my computer when I get up in the
>> morning, then go get my coffee. When I come back, it's done booting. I
>> don't know how long it took to boot and I don't care.
>>
>>
>>
>>> 2. How to configure windows 7 load only *necessary* services and
>>> applications, to save resources? Is there some handy application
>>> alowing
>>> configure only necessary windows services and processes? Since I dont
>>> know
>>> what exactly processes and services is necessary for windows and
>>> what - not,
>>> I need some utility that can configure that. I only need services
>>> necessary
>>> for Skype and Antivirus program in normal mode I use windows.

>>
>>
>> I strongly recommend that you do *not* do this. Yes, it's possible,
>> but what you can save is very small, and the likelihood of your
>> screwing something up is great.

> ------------
>
> can no agree with fact that boot loading time isn't important. My Dell
> vostro 1520 laptop booted fast before upgrades, and I never even focused
> on that, usually I turn my laptop a few times per day..
> There was a vaste quantity of updates for .NET Framework software, can
> this software cause slow down? Dont know what is necessity of this
> software at all.


See if a Defrag helps.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA

 
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Char Jackson
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      08-10-2011
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:47:44 +0300, "Alonso"
<> wrote:

>2. How to configure windows 7 load only *necessary* services and
>applications, to save resources? Is there some handy application alowing
>configure only necessary windows services and processes? Since I dont know
>what exactly processes and services is necessary for windows and what - not,
>I need some utility that can configure that. I only need services necessary
>for Skype and Antivirus program in normal mode I use windows.


Yes, there are handy utilities and other methods for configuring what
gets started automatically, but you admit that you don't know what's
important, so how do you plan to make any changes, even if you had
such a utility in front of you?

As the others have said, just leave well enough alone. If you're
starting your laptop multiple times per day, perhaps it would work
better for you to put it to sleep instead of shutting it down.

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      08-10-2011
On 10/08/2011 3:47 PM, Alonso wrote:
> 1. Yesterday I've installed a large set of windows7 updates (14 items).
> It seems to me, windows loads a bit slower after all these updates. I
> that possible?
>
> 2. How to configure windows 7 load only *necessary* services and
> applications, to save resources? Is there some handy application alowing
> configure only necessary windows services and processes? Since I dont
> know what exactly processes and services is necessary for windows and
> what - not, I need some utility that can configure that. I only need
> services necessary for Skype and Antivirus program in normal mode I use
> windows.
>
> thanks for help.



If your PC is booting up in under 90 seconds I would leave well alone.
Services should only tinkered with by more experienced users.
If you go to Search on the Start menu and type 'services.msc' (without
the quotes),
a list of Services will appear. The columns show the name of each
Service along with a
brief description of what each one does and whether or not it starts
automatically with Windows,
and whether or not it is currently running.

You can Google them to see which services to stop but, disabling a
Service stops it running altogether and if for some reason it is needed
you will see an error message or something important may stop working.









 
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      08-10-2011

"Boscoe" <> wrote in message
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> On 10/08/2011 3:47 PM, Alonso wrote:
> > 1. Yesterday I've installed a large set of windows7 updates (14 items).
> > It seems to me, windows loads a bit slower after all these updates. I
> > that possible?
> >
> > 2. How to configure windows 7 load only *necessary* services and
> > applications, to save resources? Is there some handy application alowing
> > configure only necessary windows services and processes? Since I dont
> > know what exactly processes and services is necessary for windows and
> > what - not, I need some utility that can configure that. I only need
> > services necessary for Skype and Antivirus program in normal mode I use
> > windows.
> >
> > thanks for help.

>
>
> If your PC is booting up in under 90 seconds I would leave well alone.
> Services should only tinkered with by more experienced users.
> If you go to Search on the Start menu and type 'services.msc' (without
> the quotes),
> a list of Services will appear. The columns show the name of each
> Service along with a
> brief description of what each one does and whether or not it starts
> automatically with Windows,
> and whether or not it is currently running.
>
> You can Google them to see which services to stop but, disabling a
> Service stops it running altogether and if for some reason it is needed
> you will see an error message or something important may stop working.

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laptop definitely boot slower after these updates, compare how it boots
before these senseless update pack, the full updates pack size was seems
just ~24MB, but it take long time enough to install and configure them.

14 updates list:
http://i.imgur.com/RUxxx.jpg

there was a much larger updates I installed in the past, but no one caused
boot slow down.
I have 252GB free of 283GB space, new laptop.

what is necessity of .net framework at all? What is necessity of windows
defender?
What exactly can slow down boot process on new laptop?





 
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Ken Blake
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      08-10-2011
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 22:26:35 +0300, "Alonso"
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> laptop definitely boot slower after these updates, compare how it boots
> before these senseless update pack, the full updates pack size was seems
> just ~24MB, but it take long time enough to install and configure them.
>
> 14 updates list:
> http://i.imgur.com/RUxxx.jpg
>
> there was a much larger updates I installed in the past, but no one caused
> boot slow down.
> I have 252GB free of 283GB space, new laptop.
>
> what is necessity of .net framework at all?



It's needed only if you want to run programs that were written with
..net, and therefore need the framework. If you don't run any such
programs, it's not necessary at all.

But as I said earlier, except the tiny amount of disk space used, the
is *no* disadvantage of having it installed. You can get of it today,
but you'll probably need it some time in the future, so if I were you
I would just leave it alone.



> What is necessity of windows defender?



It's anti-spyware software. It protects you against some of the
malware out there.


> What exactly can slow down boot process on new laptop?




Laptop or desktop, the two main things are malware infection, and what
programs you have starting automatically. Malware infection is the
most common reason these days.
 
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R. C. White
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      08-10-2011
Hi, Alonso.

Let me second the advice that the others have given you. If you don't know
what's important, then you won't be able to predict the effects of whatever
services you might turn off. When I look at the list of Services, I can't
guess which ones I'll need. As Char said, if you need to start your PC
multiple times a day, perhaps you should be using Sleep or Hibernate, rather
than Shut Down.

What kind of malware protection do you have installed? I've been using
Microsoft Security Essentials since it became available a year or two ago.
It is the only malware/virus protection that I use. Windows Defender is
installed automatically in Windows 7, but MSE disable Defender because MSE
includes Defender's functions. And it's free for the download. ;<)

If you haven't heard of MSE, check this out:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/secur...s/default.aspx

RC
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San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


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"Boscoe" <> wrote in message
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> On 10/08/2011 3:47 PM, Alonso wrote:
> > 1. Yesterday I've installed a large set of windows7 updates (14 items).
> > It seems to me, windows loads a bit slower after all these updates. I
> > that possible?
> >
> > 2. How to configure windows 7 load only *necessary* services and
> > applications, to save resources? Is there some handy application alowing
> > configure only necessary windows services and processes? Since I dont
> > know what exactly processes and services is necessary for windows and
> > what - not, I need some utility that can configure that. I only need
> > services necessary for Skype and Antivirus program in normal mode I use
> > windows.
> >
> > thanks for help.

>
>
> If your PC is booting up in under 90 seconds I would leave well alone.
> Services should only tinkered with by more experienced users.
> If you go to Search on the Start menu and type 'services.msc' (without
> the quotes),
> a list of Services will appear. The columns show the name of each
> Service along with a
> brief description of what each one does and whether or not it starts
> automatically with Windows,
> and whether or not it is currently running.
>
> You can Google them to see which services to stop but, disabling a
> Service stops it running altogether and if for some reason it is needed
> you will see an error message or something important may stop working.

----------------

laptop definitely boot slower after these updates, compare how it boots
before these senseless update pack, the full updates pack size was seems
just ~24MB, but it take long time enough to install and configure them.

14 updates list:
http://i.imgur.com/RUxxx.jpg

there was a much larger updates I installed in the past, but no one caused
boot slow down.
I have 252GB free of 283GB space, new laptop.

what is necessity of .net framework at all? What is necessity of windows
defender?
What exactly can slow down boot process on new laptop?

 
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      08-10-2011
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:21:36 -0500, R. C. White wrote:

> Hi, Alonso.
>
> Let me second the advice that the others have given you. If you don't know
> what's important, then you won't be able to predict the effects of whatever
> services you might turn off. When I look at the list of Services, I can't
> guess which ones I'll need. As Char said, if you need to start your PC
> multiple times a day, perhaps you should be using Sleep or Hibernate, rather
> than Shut Down.
>
> What kind of malware protection do you have installed? I've been using
> Microsoft Security Essentials since it became available a year or two ago.
> It is the only malware/virus protection that I use. Windows Defender is
> installed automatically in Windows 7, but MSE disable Defender because MSE
> includes Defender's functions. And it's free for the download. ;<)
>
> If you haven't heard of MSE, check this out:
> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/secur...s/default.aspx
>
> RC


I disagree with you and Ken, as well as Char and Boscoe.

I think we should give Alonso full instructions on how to eliminate
programs that load and let him do what he wants. Let him suffer the
consequences.

God - I'm beginning to sound like the trolls whose advice is always
reformat :-)

In truth, I wouldn't worry about an extended boot time.

I also notice that Alonso has not told us how long it used to take and
how long it now takes, or for that matter, what kind of laptop computer
it is. Maybe it was 1:10 and now it's 1:20; maybe it's a netbook :-)

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