windoze 7 and thunderbird

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:12:29 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:
> I just recently bought a 1 TB hard drive for my system and only
> paid
> $72.00 for it brand new. Makes me sad to think that a few years ago I
> paid over $150 for a 52 MB drive for my Amiga... and at the time I
> thought that was a big drive!

The first HD drive I bought was a lordly 10 MB - that's right, ten
megabytes -- and cost me $995 -- that's right, just shy of a thousand
dollars. And at the time (1984), that was a bargain.

Of course, back then your typical software installed in a few tens of
kilobytes, and we would never have thought to store visual media on a
hard drive.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

On 9/16/2011 9:47 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:12:29 -0500, Roy Smith <>
> wrote:
>
>> I just recently bought a 1 TB hard drive for my system and only paid
>> $72.00 for it brand new.
>
> Newegg and other online retailers have been selling 2TB drives for
> $69.99 since the beginning of the year. Twice the drive for less
> money.

Didn't buy it online, got it at my local Best Buy.

>> Makes me sad to think that a few years ago I
>> paid over $150 for a 52 MB drive for my Amiga... and at the time I
>> thought that was a big drive!
>
> A few years ago? Wasn't it nearly 25 years or more? That's how long
> ago I had a 52MB GVP drive for my Amiga 500.

Only said it that way because I was having a senior moment and couldn't
remember exactly when I bought that first hard drive. Shoot, I still
can't remembe the exact date, but I've narrowed it down to the late
80's. :-)


--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
Thunderbird 6.0.2
Saturday, September 17, 2011 6:00:52 AM

On 16/09/2011 15:47, Char Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:12:29 -0500, Roy Smith<>
> wrote:
>
>> I just recently bought a 1 TB hard drive for my system and only paid
>> $72.00 for it brand new.
>
> Newegg and other online retailers have been selling 2TB drives for
> $69.99 since the beginning of the year. Twice the drive for less
> money.
>
>> Makes me sad to think that a few years ago I
>> paid over $150 for a 52 MB drive for my Amiga... and at the time I
>> thought that was a big drive!
>
> A few years ago? Wasn't it nearly 25 years or more? That's how long
> ago I had a 52MB GVP drive for my Amiga 500.
>

Christ, they must cost the earth!
Here's a picture of a hippie loading an EDS30 (30MB) onto an ICL drive;
http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/...v/r12600eb.jpg

Ed

On 9/17/2011 9:53 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
> On 16/09/2011 15:47, Char Jackson wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:12:29 -0500, Roy Smith<>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just recently bought a 1 TB hard drive for my system and only paid
>>> $72.00 for it brand new.
>>
>> Newegg and other online retailers have been selling 2TB drives for
>> $69.99 since the beginning of the year. Twice the drive for less
>> money.
>>
>>> Makes me sad to think that a few years ago I
>>> paid over $150 for a 52 MB drive for my Amiga... and at the time I
>>> thought that was a big drive!
>>
>> A few years ago? Wasn't it nearly 25 years or more? That's how long
>> ago I had a 52MB GVP drive for my Amiga 500.
>>
>
> Christ, they must cost the earth!
> Here's a picture of a hippie loading an EDS30 (30MB) onto an ICL drive;
> http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/...v/r12600eb.jpg
>
> Ed
>
"Hippie"? Just because his hair was normal length for the time; it could
have been me loading a Burroughs 220 disc in 1961!

--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm *not*

On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:01:00 -0500, Roy Smith <>
wrote:

>On 9/16/2011 9:47 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:12:29 -0500, Roy Smith <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just recently bought a 1 TB hard drive for my system and only paid
>>> $72.00 for it brand new.
>>
>> Newegg and other online retailers have been selling 2TB drives for
>> $69.99 since the beginning of the year. Twice the drive for less
>> money.
>
>Didn't buy it online, got it at my local Best Buy.

Ugh, the home of the $59.99 HDMI cable, the equivalent of which is
available at monoprice.com for $1.49. :-) I've really come to dislike
Best Buy, not only for their high prices but especially after hanging
around in the laptop area a couple of times and hearing the employees
upsell unknowing buyers.

>>> Makes me sad to think that a few years ago I
>>> paid over $150 for a 52 MB drive for my Amiga... and at the time I
>>> thought that was a big drive!
>>
>> A few years ago? Wasn't it nearly 25 years or more? That's how long
>> ago I had a 52MB GVP drive for my Amiga 500.
>
>Only said it that way because I was having a senior moment and couldn't
>remember exactly when I bought that first hard drive. Shoot, I still
>can't remembe the exact date, but I've narrowed it down to the late
>80's. :-)

I'm not saying a word. My senior moments are mostly ahead of me still,
but inching closer every day.

--

Char Jackson

On 9/17/2011 10:32 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:01:00 -0500, Roy Smith<>
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/16/2011 9:47 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
>>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:12:29 -0500, Roy Smith<>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just recently bought a 1 TB hard drive for my system and only paid
>>>> $72.00 for it brand new.
>>>
>>> Newegg and other online retailers have been selling 2TB drives for
>>> $69.99 since the beginning of the year. Twice the drive for less
>>> money.
>>
>> Didn't buy it online, got it at my local Best Buy.
>
> Ugh, the home of the $59.99 HDMI cable, the equivalent of which is
> available at monoprice.com for $1.49. :-)

Is BB having a sale that I missed?" $59.99 seems pretty cheap for them.

Allen

I've really come to dislike
> Best Buy, not only for their high prices but especially after hanging
> around in the laptop area a couple of times and hearing the employees
> upsell unknowing buyers.
>
>>>> Makes me sad to think that a few years ago I
>>>> paid over $150 for a 52 MB drive for my Amiga... and at the time I
>>>> thought that was a big drive!
>>>
>>> A few years ago? Wasn't it nearly 25 years or more? That's how long
>>> ago I had a 52MB GVP drive for my Amiga 500.
>>
>> Only said it that way because I was having a senior moment and couldn't
>> remember exactly when I bought that first hard drive. Shoot, I still
>> can't remembe the exact date, but I've narrowed it down to the late
>> 80's. :-)
>
> I'm not saying a word. My senior moments are mostly ahead of me still,
> but inching closer every day.
>

How about a battery for a Panasonic Lumix TZ3 camera being offered on
eBay for £1499.00. That's £1,499.00 GBP = *US$2,365.10 USD*
Exchange rate: 1.577785
Rate valid as of: 17/9/2011

I wonder what happens when some idiot reads that as fourteen ninetynine
i.e. £14.99 and buys it and authorizes PayPal payment?

If you don't believe me search for Panasonic TZ3 on eBay!!!

This of course is downright fraud.

Spread the word around please. These people have got to be stopped. Not
only the fraudulent sellers but also eBay as well as PayPal.
-- choro --

On 17/09/2011 16:47, Allen wrote:
> On 9/17/2011 10:32 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:01:00 -0500, Roy Smith<>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/16/2011 9:47 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:12:29 -0500, Roy Smith<>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just recently bought a 1 TB hard drive for my system and only paid
>>>>> $72.00 for it brand new.
>>>>
>>>> Newegg and other online retailers have been selling 2TB drives for
>>>> $69.99 since the beginning of the year. Twice the drive for less
>>>> money.
>>>
>>> Didn't buy it online, got it at my local Best Buy.
>>
>> Ugh, the home of the $59.99 HDMI cable, the equivalent of which is
>> available at monoprice.com for $1.49. :-)
>
> Is BB having a sale that I missed?" $59.99 seems pretty cheap for them.
>
> Allen
>
> I've really come to dislike
>> Best Buy, not only for their high prices but especially after hanging
>> around in the laptop area a couple of times and hearing the employees
>> upsell unknowing buyers.
>>
>>>>> Makes me sad to think that a few years ago I
>>>>> paid over $150 for a 52 MB drive for my Amiga... and at the time I
>>>>> thought that was a big drive!
>>>>
>>>> A few years ago? Wasn't it nearly 25 years or more? That's how long
>>>> ago I had a 52MB GVP drive for my Amiga 500.
>>>
>>> Only said it that way because I was having a senior moment and couldn't
>>> remember exactly when I bought that first hard drive. Shoot, I still
>>> can't remembe the exact date, but I've narrowed it down to the late
>>> 80's. :-)
>>
>> I'm not saying a word. My senior moments are mostly ahead of me still,
>> but inching closer every day.
>>
>

On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:32:57 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:01:00 -0500, Roy Smith <>
> wrote:
> >
> >Didn't buy it online, got it at my local Best Buy.
>
> Ugh, the home of the $59.99 HDMI cable, the equivalent of which is
> available at monoprice.com for $1.49. :-)

To be fair, Monster has done a really masterful job of merchandising.
I'm sure there really is some gold in their gold connectors, though
it has no influence on the signal quality. (/Consumer Reports tested
this a month or so ago, confirming what we all knew already.) So
it's not 100% Best Buy's fault that people but cables that they
perceive to be better and in so doing overpay a bunch.

But I second your recommendation of monoprice: I've bought cables
there and was well pleased with price and service.

> I've really come to dislike
> Best Buy, not only for their high prices but especially after hanging
> around in the laptop area a couple of times and hearing the employees
> upsell unknowing buyers.

There I'm with you. And it's not just unknowing buyers. To my
everlasting shame, I actually bought an extended warranty from BB
when I bought my laptop. Yes, I know better, and I knew better then;
I can only plead temporary insanity.

But on the laptop itself, I got a really good price (confirmed by
online searches before the purchase and for some months afterward).


--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

OT for this 'group (-:


In message <>, Stan Brown
<> writes:
>On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:32:57 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:01:00 -0500, Roy Smith <>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >Didn't buy it online, got it at my local Best Buy.
>>
>> Ugh, the home of the $59.99 HDMI cable, the equivalent of which is
>> available at monoprice.com for $1.49. :-)
>
>To be fair, Monster has done a really masterful job of merchandising.
>I'm sure there really is some gold in their gold connectors, though
>it has no influence on the signal quality. (/Consumer Reports tested
>this a month or so ago, confirming what we all knew already.) So
>it's not 100% Best Buy's fault that people but cables that they
>perceive to be better and in so doing overpay a bunch.
[]
Gold does not of itself make a better connection. It _does_ reduce
(prevent, for practical purposes, at least where the gold remains)
corrosion. Therefore, for cables (and other connectors) that are going
to be connected and disconnected a lot, such as those used by
performers, broadcasters, and the like, gold plating is worthwhile - say
5 microns. But this does add significantly to the cost of the materials.
For connections that are going to be fitted once or twice, and using
newish connectors, they're certainly not necessary: once the metals are
actually in contact, assuming there's some slight spring pressure,
corrosion is unlikely to be a problem for some years. If they're going
to be moved occasionally, then 0.5 microns of gold might be worth
considering. If the cables are going to be just fitted once but might be
kept for some while before use, then a thin plating which may come off
at first use - sometimes called "gold flashing" - is appropriate, though
a little agitation at the point of connection - certainly on phono leads
and others which can be rotated a bit to scrape off the oxide - can work
as well.

Monster (assuming it's the same company as I'm thinking of) also make
cables that are a lot more robust than many of the others: again, these
are very appropriate for professional use, where they might be trodden
on and so on. They're overkill for private use, and in fact more
awkward, as they're less flexible.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I have suffered from being misunderstood, but I would have suffered a hell of a
lot more if I had been understood. -Clarence Darrow, lawyer and author
(1857-1938)