Will Windows Mail remain?

If I upgrade to Windows 7 from Windows Vista, will Windows Mail still
remain, or will it be completely eliminated?

John

"John Sisker" <> wrote in message
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> If I upgrade to Windows 7 from Windows Vista, will Windows Mail still
> remain, or will it be completely eliminated?
>
> John


Windows Mail was only used in Vista and it was never a finished product as
it was abandoned in June 2006 while Vista was still in Beta.

Win7 does not come with any e-mail client built in. Windows Live Mail is
the "replacement" but I abhor that program and opted for Thunderbird.

You can use WinMail with Win7, but it is less than optimal.

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First, you need access to a Vista machine.

On the Win7 machine, find the "Windows Mail" folder in Program Files.
Rename it to "OldWindows Mail" as a precaution.

Using a Flash or CD, copy the "Windows Mail" folder in its entirety from
the Vista machine.

Go back to the Win7 machine and copy the "Windows Mail" from the Flash or
CD to a location in Program Files.

Open it and right click on the WinMail.exe file and send a shortcut to the
Desktop. Done.


An alternative.

How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...dows-mail.html

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You can use OE in XP Mode if you have Pro, Enterprise or Ultimate.

How to use Outlook Express in Windows 7
http://www.oehelp.com/OEnWin7.aspx
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA

Hi, John.

Windows Mail (WM) is built into Vista and runs ONLY in Vista, according to
Microsoft. (Many users have found how to get it to run in Win7, and it
should not be hard to find the open "secret".) If you upgrade to Win7, WM
will disappear - and nothing will automatically take its place.

Win7 is the first Windows since Win95 to come with NO mail or news client at
all. You are free to choose your own - free or paid - newsreader and email
app. Microsoft's email client is Outlook (currently Outlook 2010), part of
the Microsoft Office suite. Microsoft also offers Windows Live Mail (WLM),
a mail and news app that looks a lot like WM, which looks a lot like Outlook
Express (OE), but with significant differences in the interface and under
the hood. If you'd like to try WLM, it is a part of the free Windows Live
Essentials suite which you can find at:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ive-essentials

Many users dislike WLM (some dislike it intensely!), but it's what I use,
despite its serious shortcomings.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1


"John Sisker" wrote in message
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If I upgrade to Windows 7 from Windows Vista, will Windows Mail still
remain, or will it be completely eliminated?

John

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 05:30:07 -0800, "John Sisker"
<> wrote:

>If I upgrade to Windows 7 from Windows Vista, will Windows Mail still
>remain, or will it be completely eliminated?
>
>John

I have always used Forte Agent for both news and email. Nothing else
is needed.

Steve

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So what are the great dislikes about WLM?
And where is a newsgroup to vent regarding WLM?
I am trying to find an eMail client and a newsreader to use.
Trying Thunderbird and WLM and ...

Hi, BeeJ.

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"BeeJ" wrote in message news:jagdim$8ca$...

> So what are the great dislikes about WLM?

Mainly, the failure to quote prior messages properly. I had to add the >
indicators manually to your quoted lines in this message. Probably the
second-least popular feature is the Ribbon interface, which was introduced
in the 2011 versions of WLM. Many users who dislike these two "features"
have opted to run the last pre-2011 version, called WLM 2009.

> And where is a newsgroup to vent regarding WLM?

You might try this one:
microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

> I am trying to find an eMail client and a newsreader to use.
> Trying Thunderbird and WLM and ...

Others here can offer a lot of advice about alternatives to WLM. Maybe I'm
just too lazy or too stubborn, but I haven't tried other mail/news clients
since checking out a lot of them in the early 1990's and settling on OE as
soon as it became available. I haven't seriously looked at others since
then.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1

BeeJ wrote:

> So what are the great dislikes about WLM?

If the foibles of WLM only affected the person using it, that would be
fair choice. But it lacks any recognised method of quoting, which
affects everyone trying to read messages sent by someone using it.

I automaticaly 'mark as read' all messages composed with WLM v15 and
pass over them, if I see an interesting message replied to by someone
else, I might go back and look at the original, I don't think I'm the
only one.

BeeJ <> wrote:

> I am trying to find an eMail client and a newsreader to use.
> Trying Thunderbird and WLM and ...

I've found better results using separate clients for each, I use
Pegasus Mail for email and Xnews for newsgroups.

Pegasus = http://www.pmail.com/
Note links to the support section, there are very good forums.

Xnews = http://xnews.newsguy.com
All the help you'll ever need at news.software.readers.


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On 22 Nov 2011, BeeJ <> wrote in
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> So what are the great dislikes about WLM?

The most recent version of WLM (ver. 15, aka WLM 2011) is unable to
mark material quoted from previous messages from your own words. As far
as the reader can see, you wrote both. It's guaranteed to create
misunderstanding and confusion - which is precisely what a newsreader
is supposed to help avoid. Microsoft has shown no sign of fixing their
broken product.

The previous version (ver. 14, aka WLM 2009) works slightly better in
that regard.

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 11:45:11 -0500, Nil
<> wrote:

>On 22 Nov 2011, BeeJ <> wrote in
>alt.windows7.general:
>
>> So what are the great dislikes about WLM?
>
>The most recent version of WLM (ver. 15, aka WLM 2011) is unable to
>mark material quoted from previous messages from your own words. As far
>as the reader can see, you wrote both. It's guaranteed to create
>misunderstanding and confusion - which is precisely what a newsreader
>is supposed to help avoid. Microsoft has shown no sign of fixing their
>broken product.
>

I get the impression that Microsoft have a long term agenda that
includes getting everyone to use their web offerings. They have
already abandoned their newsgroups and want people to use their web
forums. They will soon make their email clients unusable and start
plugging message orientation soon. Don't send an email, send a
message. Use side posting. Threads on left, messages on the right.

Steve

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