Windows Live Mail

I was stupid enough to instal Windows Live Mail on my Windows 7 Home
system and now cannot get totally rid of it.
In Resource Monitor I can see Hundreds of entries under svchost.exe
(secsvcs) reading the hard disc thousands of bytes per second. This
eats up a large chunk of memory and slows the computer to a crawl.
How can I rid myself of this awful program.

TIA
Iain

On 17/11/2011 10:26, Iain wrote:
> I was stupid enough to instal Windows Live Mail on my Windows 7 Home
> system and now cannot get totally rid of it.
> In Resource Monitor I can see Hundreds of entries under svchost.exe
> (secsvcs) reading the hard disc thousands of bytes per second. This
> eats up a large chunk of memory and slows the computer to a crawl.
> How can I rid myself of this awful program.
>

You could always try Googling "uninstall windows live mail". It will
turn up many hits, including:
http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-...live-mail.html

--

Jeff

In article <ja2ngh$eu1$>, says...
>
> I was stupid enough to instal Windows Live Mail on my Windows 7 Home
> system and now cannot get totally rid of it.
> In Resource Monitor I can see Hundreds of entries under svchost.exe
> (secsvcs) reading the hard disc thousands of bytes per second. This
> eats up a large chunk of memory and slows the computer to a crawl.
> How can I rid myself of this awful program.
>
> TIA
> Iain

I don't recognise the behaviour you describe, and I use Windows Live
Mail for RSS feeds (no longer for newsgroups since they dropped the
quoting convention). If you want to check what's actually doing all
this disk I/O you could play around with Process Monitor from
Sysinternals.com (Microsoft). Meanwhile, if you want to dump WLM I can
recommend Revo Uninstaller (free) for uninstalling things thoroughly -
I've seen thousands of files left behind by some supposedly uninstalled
software (antivirus suites are the worst for this).

--

Phil, London

On 17 Nov 2011, Iain <> wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

> How can I rid myself of this awful program.

It can be cleanly uninstalled from Control Panel. Why did you not try
that?

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:26:19 +0000, Iain wrote:

> I was stupid enough to instal Windows Live Mail on my Windows 7 Home
> system and now cannot get totally rid of it.
> In Resource Monitor I can see Hundreds of entries under svchost.exe
> (secsvcs) reading the hard disc thousands of bytes per second. This
> eats up a large chunk of memory and slows the computer to a crawl.
> How can I rid myself of this awful program.
>
> TIA
> Iain

svchost is a piece of the operating system that runs many different
services for the OS, so if you want to get rid of that, *don't*!

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

"Gene E. Bloch" <not-> wrote in message news:...
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:26:19 +0000, Iain wrote:
>
>> I was stupid enough to instal Windows Live Mail on my Windows 7 Home
>> system and now cannot get totally rid of it.
>> In Resource Monitor I can see Hundreds of entries under svchost.exe
>> (secsvcs) reading the hard disc thousands of bytes per second. This
>> eats up a large chunk of memory and slows the computer to a crawl.
>> How can I rid myself of this awful program.
>>
>> TIA
>> Iain
>
> svchost is a piece of the operating system that runs many different
> services for the OS, so if you want to get rid of that, *don't*!
>

Aw, c'mon, Gene. Let him have some fun :-)

Seriously, though, Gene is absolutely correct. You can't stop all the instances of svchost because of it's use in
numerous programs; that why you see several instances of it running at the same time (odds are that Windows won't allow
you to stop them any how). I would follow Phil's advice and track it with Process Monitor to see what the hog is.

As a note, I have 13 instances running on my Win7 laptop on a fresh boot up (no WLM running). My XP box has 5 with OE
running, and has been up half the day.
--
SC Tom

On 17/11/2011 20:48, SC Tom wrote:
>
> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-> wrote in message
> news:...
>> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:26:19 +0000, Iain wrote:
>>
>>> I was stupid enough to instal Windows Live Mail on my Windows 7 Home
>>> system and now cannot get totally rid of it.
>>> In Resource Monitor I can see Hundreds of entries under svchost.exe
>>> (secsvcs) reading the hard disc thousands of bytes per second. This
>>> eats up a large chunk of memory and slows the computer to a crawl.
>>> How can I rid myself of this awful program.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> Iain
>>
>> svchost is a piece of the operating system that runs many different
>> services for the OS, so if you want to get rid of that, *don't*!
>>
>
> Aw, c'mon, Gene. Let him have some fun :-)
>
> Seriously, though, Gene is absolutely correct. You can't stop all the
> instances of svchost because of it's use in numerous programs; that why
> you see several instances of it running at the same time (odds are that
> Windows won't allow you to stop them any how). I would follow Phil's
> advice and track it with Process Monitor to see what the hog is.
>
> As a note, I have 13 instances running on my Win7 laptop on a fresh boot
> up (no WLM running). My XP box has 5 with OE running, and has been up
> half the day.

Oh, come on! Why can't he remove this svhost.exe. Too many .exe's in
Windows of any complexion anyway. One less wouldn't make much difference
one way or the other. ;-)

Just tried to rescue files on a friend's flash stick. Tried different
approaches using several rescue programs, all to no avail. In the end I
reformatted the flash stick hoping that that might reveal something. But
the flash stick was clean as a whistle.

How could this be, I asked myself. Either all the files were shredded, I
thought, OR the stick could have been inadvertently degaussed. But
surely he would have known about the stick being degaussed, I thought to
myself. After all, he *had* told me that he had attended courses on
computing as well as on electrical engineering.

Anyway, in the end I phoned him saying that his stick was OK, that there
was nothing wrong with it and that I had even tested it, but that it was
clean as a whistle.

Did you rest it on a strong magnet, I asked him. No, he said. Did you
put it near a strong magnet, I asked. No, he said. Well, I said, I can't
see how this could have happened unless the files were either shredded
or the stick itself was degaussed.

Well, he then admitted, I think I put it in my pocket together with some
of those brown strip magnets that they use on notice boards, he said.
But those are quite weak magnets, he innocently added!!!

It sure takes all sorts!
-- choro

"choro" <> wrote in message news:V7fxq.30007$2...
> On 17/11/2011 20:48, SC Tom wrote:
>>
>> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:26:19 +0000, Iain wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was stupid enough to instal Windows Live Mail on my Windows 7 Home
>>>> system and now cannot get totally rid of it.
>>>> In Resource Monitor I can see Hundreds of entries under svchost.exe
>>>> (secsvcs) reading the hard disc thousands of bytes per second. This
>>>> eats up a large chunk of memory and slows the computer to a crawl.
>>>> How can I rid myself of this awful program.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>> Iain
>>>
>>> svchost is a piece of the operating system that runs many different
>>> services for the OS, so if you want to get rid of that, *don't*!
>>>
>>
>> Aw, c'mon, Gene. Let him have some fun :-)
>>
>> Seriously, though, Gene is absolutely correct. You can't stop all the
>> instances of svchost because of it's use in numerous programs; that why
>> you see several instances of it running at the same time (odds are that
>> Windows won't allow you to stop them any how). I would follow Phil's
>> advice and track it with Process Monitor to see what the hog is.
>>
>> As a note, I have 13 instances running on my Win7 laptop on a fresh boot
>> up (no WLM running). My XP box has 5 with OE running, and has been up
>> half the day.
>
> Oh, come on! Why can't he remove this svhost.exe. Too many .exe's in Windows of any complexion anyway. One less
> wouldn't make much difference one way or the other. ;-)
>
> Just tried to rescue files on a friend's flash stick. Tried different approaches using several rescue programs, all to
> no avail. In the end I reformatted the flash stick hoping that that might reveal something. But the flash stick was
> clean as a whistle.
>
> How could this be, I asked myself. Either all the files were shredded, I thought, OR the stick could have been
> inadvertently degaussed. But surely he would have known about the stick being degaussed, I thought to myself. After
> all, he *had* told me that he had attended courses on computing as well as on electrical engineering.
>
> Anyway, in the end I phoned him saying that his stick was OK, that there was nothing wrong with it and that I had even
> tested it, but that it was clean as a whistle.
>
> Did you rest it on a strong magnet, I asked him. No, he said. Did you put it near a strong magnet, I asked. No, he
> said. Well, I said, I can't see how this could have happened unless the files were either shredded or the stick itself
> was degaussed.
>
> Well, he then admitted, I think I put it in my pocket together with some of those brown strip magnets that they use on
> notice boards, he said. But those are quite weak magnets, he innocently added!!!
>
> It sure takes all sorts!

Funny you should mention degaussing. A long time ago at work, we had some really nice HP or Digital (I don't recall for
certain) CAD workstations with high-end CRT monitors. One of the buttons on the front of it was a Degauss button. Some
of the work cubicles were back to back, and if engineer Bob degaussed his monitor, it would send color flashes across
engineer Fred's monitor on the other side of the wall. Well, engineer Fred had a serial port extension under the front
of his monitor that he kept his CAD key in (early version of MicroCADAM, IIRC), so to pay Bob back for interrupting his
work (nap time), he hit his degauss button 3 or 4 times in rapid succession. Later, when he tried to get into CAD, he
got a "No key found" error. He called me to fix it, and showed me the key was plugged in, but couldn't be read. Seems
the degaussing had corrupted the EEPROM enough that it couldn't be read any more. Luckily, as admin, I had the program
to reprogram it, so all ended well. But an email was sent out warning every one of the inherent dangers of keeping
anything electronic next to the monitors when degaussing. There was a story of a digital watch, but I never saw it, so I
can't confirm the truth of it.
--
SC Tom

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:36:50 +0000, choro wrote:

> Did you rest it on a strong magnet, I asked him. No, he said. Did you
> put it near a strong magnet, I asked. No, he said. Well, I said, I can't
> see how this could have happened unless the files were either shredded
> or the stick itself was degaussed.
>
> Well, he then admitted, I think I put it in my pocket together with some
> of those brown strip magnets that they use on notice boards, he said.
> But those are quite weak magnets, he innocently added!!!

You can try, but I can't get a magnet of any strength I can find to affect
the contents of a flash drive, much less a fridge magnet. YMMV but I kinda
doubt you can erase a flash drive that way, except for maybe the most
extreme of conditions, and I still question that. Maybe with a EM pulse
from a nuclear explosion Hopefully we'll never have that tested.

Degaussing involves a reversing and diminishing magnetic field. You can
magnetize with a static or non-reversing field but that is not degaussing.
I get what you're saying, but the terminology is wrong. Degaussing is to
de-magnetize something (to a minimal state). One cannot do that with a
magnet in a pocket. Additionally as flash memory is not magnetic and has no
magnetic polarity, I see no way to demagnetize it.

--
HK

"choro" <> wrote in message
news:V7fxq.30007$2...
....
....
> see how this could have happened unless the files were either shredded or
> the stick itself was degaussed.
>
> Well, he then admitted, I think I put it in my pocket together with some
> of those brown strip magnets that they use on notice boards, he said. But
> those are quite weak magnets, he innocently added!!!
.....
>
> It sure takes all sorts!
> -- choro

Some years ago in Australia I was looking after a few sites running crude
systems, and of course I advised the users to keep backups. I failed
completely at one place to stop the staff from writing the backup identities
on the sleeve labels of 5.25" floppy discs using a sharp ball point pen,
which of course printed through to the floppy.

On another site, we needed the backup floppies and I asked where they were.
'Quite safe, right here under the telephone,' said the manager. There they
were. Only problem was that the telephone of those days (1980) in Australia
had at its base a powerful traditional style bell (large electromagnet with
an armature). I explained that if the bell rang only once it was bye bye to
the backups.