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      09-15-2012
My computer is having a rather noticeable start up time.
Previously, after the logo finished the animation, it would be pretty instant to get into windows.
I recently wiped my hard drive and re-installed windows 7 ultimate (was having some bsod issues).
I am just wondering if it could be anything that I am missing.

Specs:
FX8150@4.2Ghz (stock or not, it is the same)
1866MHz Crosiar dominator platinum ram (16gb total)
SSD- Agility SSDIII (probably the thing that would matter the most for the bootup i would be assuming, plenty of free space on it also.)


Also noticed that some windows updates failed to install:
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2529073)
Security Update for Internet Explorer 8 for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2544521)
Update for Internet Explorer 8 Compatibility View List for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2598845)

P.S: I am talking about 10 seconds or so for the startup
 
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      09-15-2012
EDIT: disregard this post, it seems I have learned something new today.

If you reinstalled then the boot-up is probably set to the default of using 1 core for boot, since you have multiple cores in that cpu you should see improvement if you fix that.

Type msconfig.exe into the start-search box and run it. On the boot tab go to advanced options. Check the box beside number of processors. Then set the number to how many you have (from what I found in search of FX8150 I believe it is 8 but you should check with manufacturer site if you don't know for certain)

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      09-16-2012
Sorry but that is a myth that needs to die. Windows automatically uses all your CPU's cores (and threads) by default. So that Number of processors options is there to LIMIT the number of cores used. It does NOT assign the number of cores. Also note the purpose of the MSCONFIG tool is to help in troubleshooting, not for permanent solutions.

It should be left unchecked.

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      09-16-2012
Thanks, Yes, your cpu should boot up the same speed with 1 core or using 8 cores, since it would be a single thread workload I presume.

I re-installed windows, set bios to default and all of that, it is better now.

My issue was that when the windows logo appeared, it would sit there for 24 seconds before it seemed to actually start it up (aka, hearing anything run)
Now it is about 2 seconds.
BOIS post times are not included.

I am still slightly confused as to what it was, since most of my BIOS settings should have been fine.
 
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      09-16-2012
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Yes, your cpu should boot up the same speed with 1 core or using 8 cores, since it would be a single thread workload I presume.
Note sure what you mean by that. If you mean during "POST" - the power on self-test portion of your "hardware" booting up, then yeah, that is likely single thread. But Windows will take advantage of every core/thread it can get, and pretty soon in the "software" boot phase.

Note that most BSODs are hardware, or driver related and thus, most often a reinstall of the OS will not fix a BSOD problem. So a re-install should always be a last resort step.

I suspect during the reinstall, a corrupt driver was overwritten. But, that is really just a guess at this point. Another problem with re-installing Windows to fix a problem you don't learn from the problem to prevent recurrence.

Let's hope your BSODs don't return.

If you did not change hardware during the re-install, or reset the BIOS, the BIOS would not be affected.

I would be real mindful of what you now reinstall - as far as applications, security software, utilities, etc. Some programs dig, and set hooks deep in the kernel, and are often the cause of delays during boot.
 
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      09-16-2012
I was told that the time taken for booting up the software for the os using 1 core or multiple cores would not matter.

For the re-install, yes, it was to try and solve a driver issue (mainly utility ones).
So I completely formatted the ssd and started from a blank slate basically, only installing the minimum to get it going in terms of drivers and anti-virus.

Hardware has also been tested, it did not show any faults.
And yes, I manually reset my BIOS.
Other than changing the RAM's timings, voltage and MHz, there was little that I had changed in the bios.

But a 2 second software load vs a 24s+ load are quite significant.


Are there ways to decrease the BIOS posting for the UEFI BIOS?
Example, the BIOS logo flashes 3 times as it starts up, and it posts twice.
Other motherboards that did not have the UEFI BIOS use to post, show BIOS image, then load the OS.
 
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      09-16-2012
Maybe AutoRuns could help you?

Or the Windows Performance Analysis Toolkit?

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      09-16-2012
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Are there ways to decrease the BIOS posting for the UEFI BIOS?
I am NOT a fan nor do I encourage others to use UEFI BIOS motherboards. There are too many problems and issues with them. They're not perfected yet either.

The conventional BIOS on motherboards is much more stable and less prone to BSOD issues.
 
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