Windows 7/Ubuntu

OK, I know this is not a Ubuntu group but I think I can get the answer I
need from the folks here.

I've decided I want to see what the heck all the shouting and arguing is
about. I don't want a dual boot system and I don't want to have to swap
out disks when I want to play with Ubuntu, so I'm wondering if Ubuntu
will install and run in a Windows/Microsoft Virtual Machine.

If so are there any potential problems I should be aware of.

I do have one option and that is an external eSATA dock that I could set
a disk in and install the OS there.

I'm just trying to learn the best way to learn.

Information. I have 4 internal SATA connections and all 4 are being used
now, so using one of those is not an option.


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"Bob Hatch" <> wrote in message
news:4b7ced11$0$9618$...
> OK, I know this is not a Ubuntu group but I think I can get the answer I
> need from the folks here.
>
> I've decided I want to see what the heck all the shouting and arguing is
> about. I don't want a dual boot system and I don't want to have to swap
> out disks when I want to play with Ubuntu, so I'm wondering if Ubuntu will
> install and run in a Windows/Microsoft Virtual Machine.

I run it in a VMWare Player
http://www.vmware.com/products/player/

--
Andrew

In article <4b7ced11$0$9618$>, Bob Hatch
says...
>
> OK, I know this is not a Ubuntu group but I think I can get the answer I
> need from the folks here.
>
> I've decided I want to see what the heck all the shouting and arguing is
> about. I don't want a dual boot system and I don't want to have to swap
> out disks when I want to play with Ubuntu, so I'm wondering if Ubuntu
> will install and run in a Windows/Microsoft Virtual Machine.
>
> If so are there any potential problems I should be aware of.
>
> I do have one option and that is an external eSATA dock that I could set
> a disk in and install the OS there.
>
> I'm just trying to learn the best way to learn.
>
> Information. I have 4 internal SATA connections and all 4 are being used
> now, so using one of those is not an option.

Two options:

Option 1: Install the free Virtualbox, create a virtual PC and install
on that.
Option 2: Install Ubuntu via Wubi. It is basically like creating a
virtual PC in so much that it uses a single file as a "partition" and it
adds an option to the Windows boot menu on startup. If you want to
uninstall Ubuntu, you simply go to Add/Remove programs and do it from
there.

Advantages of Wubi is that its basically native. Disadvantage of Wubi is
that you have a boot menu so its basically dual boot but without the
partitioning.


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Conor

I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.

"Bob Hatch" <> wrote in message
news:4b7ced11$0$9618$...
> OK, I know this is not a Ubuntu group but I think I can get the answer I
> need from the folks here.
>
> I've decided I want to see what the heck all the shouting and arguing is
> about. I don't want a dual boot system and I don't want to have to swap
> out disks when I want to play with Ubuntu, so I'm wondering if Ubuntu will
> install and run in a Windows/Microsoft Virtual Machine.
>
> If so are there any potential problems I should be aware of.


It will run fine using any of the various virtual machine systems, Microsoft
Virtual PC included. I would go with the VMware Free Virtual Server product
myself given a choice between that or Virtual PC.

Bob Hatch wrote:

> OK, I know this is not a Ubuntu group but I think I can get the answer I
> need from the folks here.
>
> I've decided I want to see what the heck all the shouting and arguing is
> about. I don't want a dual boot system and I don't want to have to swap
> out disks when I want to play with Ubuntu, so I'm wondering if Ubuntu
> will install and run in a Windows/Microsoft Virtual Machine.
>
> If so are there any potential problems I should be aware of.

Personally when evaluating a new release/distribution of Linux, I swap out
disks. If everything runs OK I then dual boot, but this isn't the answer
that you wanted!

The main reason for this reply is to caution that the latest release of
Ubuntu (9.10) is, in the opinion of many users, too much like a beta
release.

I would advise trying the more mature 8.04 version, which is still available
and is the latest Long Term Support version, although it is not quite so
up-to-date.

--
John Aldred

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 00:32:14 -0700, Bob Hatch wrote:

> OK, I know this is not a Ubuntu group but I think I can get the answer I
> need from the folks here.
>
> I've decided I want to see what the heck all the shouting and arguing is
> about. I don't want a dual boot system and I don't want to have to swap
> out disks when I want to play with Ubuntu, so I'm wondering if Ubuntu
> will install and run in a Windows/Microsoft Virtual Machine.
>
> If so are there any potential problems I should be aware of.
>
> I do have one option and that is an external eSATA dock that I could set
> a disk in and install the OS there.
>
> I'm just trying to learn the best way to learn.
>
> Information. I have 4 internal SATA connections and all 4 are being used
> now, so using one of those is not an option.

You could do that. If you expect this to be a short term comparison,
another option would be to boot a Linux Live CD. It will boot and run
from the CD without installing anything on your computer. Of course, it
will be a bit slower since it's running from the CD rather than a hard
disk, but all the basic functionality is there.

On 18 Feb 2010, Bob Hatch <> wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

> I've decided I want to see what the heck all the shouting and
> arguing is about. I don't want a dual boot system and I don't want
> to have to swap out disks when I want to play with Ubuntu, so I'm
> wondering if Ubuntu will install and run in a Windows/Microsoft
> Virtual Machine.

Yes, it will. But if you have problems with MVM, you can try Sun
Virtual Box - Ubuntu runs quite well in that.

Bob Hatch <> wrote in news:4b7ced11$0$9618$c3e8da3
@news.astraweb.com:

> OK, I know this is not a Ubuntu group but I think I can get the answer
I
> need from the folks here.
>
> I've decided I want to see what the heck all the shouting and arguing
is
> about. I don't want a dual boot system and I don't want to have to swap
> out disks when I want to play with Ubuntu, so I'm wondering if Ubuntu
> will install and run in a Windows/Microsoft Virtual Machine.

If you do try it out, be sure to try out both Ubuntu and Kubuntu.

Ubuntu uses the GNOME desktop..... http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-
notes/2.28/

Kubuntu uses the KDE desktop.....http://www.kde.org/

Although, if yo do try an older release as mentioned in one of the other
replies, Kubuntu won;t run as well because that's an older version of KDE
that was buggy and slow. Version 4.x is significantly improved.

KDE looks much more refined and polished, and they also have a lot more
apps.

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:15:31 -0600, DanS wrote:

> Bob Hatch <> wrote in news:4b7ced11$0$9618$c3e8da3
> @news.astraweb.com:
>
>> OK, I know this is not a Ubuntu group but I think I can get the answer
> I
>> need from the folks here.
>>
>> I've decided I want to see what the heck all the shouting and arguing
> is
>> about. I don't want a dual boot system and I don't want to have to swap
>> out disks when I want to play with Ubuntu, so I'm wondering if Ubuntu
>> will install and run in a Windows/Microsoft Virtual Machine.
>
> If you do try it out, be sure to try out both Ubuntu and Kubuntu.
>
> Ubuntu uses the GNOME desktop.....
> http://library.gnome.org/misc/release- notes/2.28/
>
> Kubuntu uses the KDE desktop.....http://www.kde.org/
>
> Although, if yo do try an older release as mentioned in one of the other
> replies, Kubuntu won;t run as well because that's an older version of
> KDE that was buggy and slow. Version 4.x is significantly improved.
>
> KDE looks much more refined and polished, and they also have a lot more
> apps.

No need to install both - simply install Ubuntu and then add the KDE
desktop. At boot you can choose which to use. In the past, I've found it
better to do that than install Kubuntu - things just always worked better
for me that way - could have changed by now, though.

ray <> wrote in news::

> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:15:31 -0600, DanS wrote:
>
>> Bob Hatch <> wrote in news:4b7ced11$0$9618$c3e8da3
>> @news.astraweb.com:
>>
>>> OK, I know this is not a Ubuntu group but I think I can get the
>>> answer
>> I
>>> need from the folks here.
>>>
>>> I've decided I want to see what the heck all the shouting and
>>> arguing
>> is
>>> about. I don't want a dual boot system and I don't want to have to
>>> swap out disks when I want to play with Ubuntu, so I'm wondering if
>>> Ubuntu will install and run in a Windows/Microsoft Virtual Machine.
>>
>> If you do try it out, be sure to try out both Ubuntu and Kubuntu.
>>
>> Ubuntu uses the GNOME desktop.....
>> http://library.gnome.org/misc/release- notes/2.28/
>>
>> Kubuntu uses the KDE desktop.....http://www.kde.org/
>>
>> Although, if yo do try an older release as mentioned in one of the
>> other replies, Kubuntu won;t run as well because that's an older
>> version of KDE that was buggy and slow. Version 4.x is significantly
>> improved.
>>
>> KDE looks much more refined and polished, and they also have a lot
>> more apps.
>
> No need to install both - simply install Ubuntu and then add the KDE
> desktop. At boot you can choose which to use. In the past, I've found
> it better to do that than install Kubuntu - things just always worked
> better for me that way - could have changed by now, though.

You know Ray, I thought that it didn't matter either and that is what I
always did too...until the 9.10 release, I just decided to do a direct
Kinstall instead of adding it, and after using it for a while now, I
would never go back to GNOME (unless of course a subsequent update of KDE
breaks it again).

The one thing that really bugged me was having both K & G apps in the
menu. I tried the apps that hide them as necesary, but those never worked
100%.