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      10-30-2010
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???

Of course there are.
This is the exact same way members of the Politbureau responded to political criticism in the USSR. Just deny everything and threaten the media with exile in Siberia.

However there really aren`t windows. There is just one window with loads of lists, or there is some way to adjust the display that I haven`t found. If this is the case may I ask why the program is preset to it`s most annoying and unintuitive setting?

Secondly I wasn`t talking about exporer but your wonderful window.

And I don`t have any addons apart from Firefox. When I have too many pages up it slows down, quite unlike when I was using 98 and xp. After a while of this it crashes if I dont restart. Same person, same addons, same habits. Only change is having installed Annoying Lists 7.

One more thing I might mention to heap derision on W7 is that roughly 85% of my games are now utterly unusable. Let me guess: I have to buy some more Microsoft crud online to make stuff work?

Fat chance.
 
 
 
 
 
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      10-30-2010
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This is the exact same way members of the Politbureau responded to political criticism in the USSR. Just deny everything and threaten the media with exile in Siberia.

However there really aren`t windows. There is just one window with loads of lists, or there is some way to adjust the display that I haven`t found. If this is the case may I ask why the program is preset to it`s most annoying and unintuitive setting?

Secondly I wasn`t talking about exporer but your wonderful window.

And I don`t have any addons apart from Firefox. When I have too many pages up it slows down, quite unlike when I was using 98 and xp. After a while of this it crashes if I dont restart. Same person, same addons, same habits. Only change is having installed Annoying Lists 7.

One more thing I might mention to heap derision on W7 is that roughly 85% of my games are now utterly unusable. Let me guess: I have to buy some more Microsoft crud online to make stuff work?

Fat chance.
Well that's too bad you don't like Windows 7. Apparently you haven't explored it much and realized that you can tweak it quite a bit. The windows may be configured several different ways... but apparently you have taken off the blinders to explore the various options.

Most of your statements are disingenuous and specious. Also you should have checked to see which of your games would be compatible with Windows 7.

So don't come here bad-mouthing Windows 7 if you're not willing to really get in to the "meat and potatoes" of the operating system.

Go ahead and re-install XP, be happy and watch as the rest zoom by you.
 
 
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      10-30-2010
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First of all there aren`t really any windows anymore, so the OS should really be called `Unintuitive Lists 7`.
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However there really aren`t windows. There is just one window with loads of lists, or there is some way to adjust the display that I haven`t found. If this is the case may I ask why the program is preset to it`s most annoying and unintuitive setting?
You don't seem to understand that "Windows" has to do with being able to run multiple applications, each in its' own "Window"; it has nothing to do with menus. It also has nothing to do with whether your browser is set to use tabs instead of separate windows.

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Let me give you an example of why this is annoying: Let`s say you are downloading addons for a game or audio files. Instead of opening 2 windows, one containing unzipped files and one containing the extracted contents, a quick and intuitive way of doing things in all previous versions. Instead you are now stuck with the download frame and the horrible, awful, contemtible and hugely annoying main interface `window`, where files must now be copied from one cramped list on the right to an even more cramped one on the left. To add to my enjoyment these lists frequently collapse so I have to fiddle through them over and over again to get to the correct sub-directory. Once for every file so far, I`ve probably missed something `intuitive`though.
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Secondly I wasn`t talking about explorer but your wonderful window
The standard application with lists of folders is called "Windows Explorer"; you will need to step up and learn the terms for things or you will never understand answers to your questions even if anyone has a solution. If this is NOT the application to which you are referring then take a screen shot and post a picture of the app you mean.

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To top it off it`s slow and frequently crashes from Firefox forcing restarts. This might be due to other things of course, but in my experience any problems you encounter with a PC has a 75% chance of being caused by Lists, err I mean Windows..
Your experience seems to be flawed there in Siberia comrade, most errors are not the fault of the OS but of the drivers written by the manufacturers for the hardware or by the applications themselves including many anti-virus programs. The crashes I seem to experience in Firefox seem to happen during video display which would point to an issue with the Adobe flash add-in (which doesn't surprise me at all!)

Nothing is perfect and if it helps you relieve a little pressure by ranting about W7 then so be it. If you go back to an old OS that's fine if you are happy with it but if you decide to try out W7 a bit longer then remember the saying "you catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar" so if you would like to know if there are solutions to some of your problems then start threads on each item and you can mention you are frustrated but word it politely and we will help if we can. If you are seriously coming from Win98 then, yes, you have a lot of learning to do.
 
 
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If you don't like the tabs in Internet Explorer and you feel those should each be in a separate window then you can disable tabbed browsing...
Windows 7 Stinks!-ie-tabs.jpg

FireFox has similar setting options but since FireFox isn't a Microsoft product and doesn't come with the OS, you can hardly blame Microsoft if you do not like the way it functions.


As for Windows Explorer you can set it so that every time you click on a folder on the right side of the two panel display that it actually opens a separate window. True, it will still be another dual panel window, not just a simple single pane, but hey this isn't windows 3.1 any longer; so yes it's a little more complicated and maybe Microsoft overestimated some users abilities but most can figure it out. To clarify, the left side window pane is the directory tree structure and the right side window pane is the actual folder you are currently "in" ...
Windows 7 Stinks!-windowsexplorersamewindow.jpg

NOTE: There is potentially a third panel in windows explorer if you enable the preview pane (I don't) ... in case you do then the current folder is in the center and the preview pane is the third panel on the right.

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OK I hadn't done it the old way in so long, even in XP, that I didn't even realize it was still possible to have a single pane explorers window. This works well with the open folder in a separate window item I already displayed above. To set your windows explorer to a single pane just disable the preview pane and the navigation pane ...
Windows 7 Stinks!-windowsexplorer1pane.jpg

... so there you have your single pane window that opens new windows when you click on a folder. Just FYI dual and triple pane windows are still windows, even if the panes contain "Lists" of information.

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      10-30-2010
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One more thing I might mention to heap derision on W7 is that roughly 85% of my games are now utterly unusable.
Then that's the fault of your game designers not keeping up with the times! It is not Windows 7 responsibility to be backwards compatible with ancient technologies. That's exactly what got Microsoft in so much trouble with the insecure XP - at the insistence of its user-base, it weighed legacy support over security.

Blame the badguys - not Microsoft.

But also, note that hardware makers have not been sitting on their thumbs the last 10 years either. They have been making HUGE advances in the state-of-the-art and these advances require a modern OS to make them work, and work together.

Bottom line, buy current hardware and current versions of your software, and Window 7 will make it all shine!
 
 
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This is the exact same way members of the Politbureau responded to political criticism in the USSR. Just deny everything and threaten the media with exile in Siberia.
I'm simply telling you that Windows does in fact, have Windows.

Please don't turn this thread or any other thread into a political one. This site is not the venue for such.

If you're looking for honest help with computing issues, this site has an excellent member base willing to help you with anything you could possibly want to learn about.

Other than that, please take the political rants to a different website that supports such discussions. I do not appreciate the comparison here.

Thanks for your understanding.
 
 
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      10-31-2010
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Please don't turn this thread or any other thread into a political one. This site is not the venue for such.
I really don't believe he's trying to be political, he was just using a poor choice of an analogy to express his frustrations with his inability to mesh and use Windows 7's different interface.

Remember to consider the source of the statement. My Mother would have said: "Well, he's acting like a horse's patoot!"

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I wonder what happened to the OP! Still thinks W7 stinks?
 
 
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I wonder what happened to the OP! Still thinks W7 stinks?

Well obviously sarcasm is the only way to express my feelings about W7 when I`m complaining to the congregation as I am here, which leads me to post some more experiences with this blight.

I just installed Silent Hunter 3 and it went fine. Then when I tried starting it I got the following message: "This application can be launched with a release version of Microsoft Windows 95 OSR2.1/98/ME/NT 4.0/2000/XP/ Server 2003 only."

Sigh.....

Since this was not entirely unexpected as about half my games respond in similar ways to W7 I immediately typed this uncopyable message into Google to find other sorry sods who had been afflicted with this wonderful OS. On the forum I found for this exotic problem it said thusly:

"Originally posted by Kentubi1983:
I see that a lot of people need the solution, so I post it here.

1. Completely remove SH3, and Starforce:
http://www.onlinesecurity-on.com/protect.phtml?c=55
(execute the application in rar archive sfcdrvrem.rar)

Go to the buttom of the page and you find the download to remove Starforce.

2. search for
Silent Hunter 3 v1.4b [ENGLISH] No-DVD/Fixed EXE
on ************* and download it. Its a zip-file (rld-sh14.rar) containing the following files:
SH3.EXE, MISSIONENGINE.DLL, SIMDATA.DLL, UTILS.DLL & STATEMACHINE.DLL

3. Install SH3 and remove the disc from the drive after installation, make sure the game does NOT run after installation.

4. Patch to 1.4b (execute application silent_hunter_3_dvd_1.4b_emea) and make sure the game doesn't start after patching.

5. Extract the contents of the zip-file into SH3's install directory and let it overwrite the files it needs to overwrite.

6. At this point you should be able to play the game.

Kent"

The problems with this solution are many, but most relevantly is that I have no idea what Starforce is, it does not appear in explorer nor can I find it in any folder. Also I don`t know what rar archive sfcdrvrem.rar means, which seems important judging from the post. Furthermore it doesn`t seem exactly fair that I should have to jump through all these hoops every time I want to run a program.

Now call me silly, but this hardly seems like a failure of mine to "mesh" or "adapt" to new features of W7, but like a bad OS, riddled with bugs and ulcer-inducing annoyances.
 
 
 
 
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